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What is the ATI equivalent of a 9800GT 1gb?

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May 5, 2010 11:42:32 AM

i want to buy an ATI vidcard that is equal or even is 1 step above the 9800GT 1gb, because my idiot friends laugh at my new system not having a vidcard, they have a C2Q Q9400 with a 9800GT 1gb and they keep bustin my chops for having a newer system and using the crappy onboard HD 4290, i still dont have enough money for a 5850 and i want to wait for the price on them to go down, well hoping they do when the 460/465 GTXs come out
May 5, 2010 11:46:46 AM

The HD5770 is about 50% faster than the 9800GT and half the price of the HD5850.
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May 5, 2010 4:01:06 PM

What about your current monitor and PSU? the other specs?
How much do you want to spend?
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May 6, 2010 1:07:02 AM

wa1 said:
What about your current monitor and PSU? the other specs?
How much do you want to spend?


rebuilt my system:

Old:
Pentium 4 3,0ghz s478
Albatron 865PEPro v2
2.5gb DDR400 Kingston Ram
Raidmax Volcano 630w PSU (non 80+)
GF 7800GS AGP 256mb
17" AOC CRT Monitor

new replacements
AMD Phenom X2 955 BE 3.2ghz = $169
MSI 890GXM-G65 = came free with the CPU
4gb Corsiar DDR3 1333mhz = $79(after $40 rebate from $119)
Antec TruePower New Blue 750w 80+ Bronze = $79(after $20 rebate from $99)
no vidcard yet, using HD 4290 craptastic onboard GPU
23" Vizio LEDHDTV 1920x1080

parts recycled:
Thermaltake M9 case modded with 2 120MM Led Intake fans, 1 80mmLED connected to side pannel vent pushing air to CPU, 1 120mm LED intake on side pannel, 1 120mm led Exhaust
320gb SATA 2 3gb Seagate HD
LD DVDrw


as you can imagine my friends laughed at my P4 when they decided to upgraded in 2008 both of them having the same exact specs Q9400/4gb ddr2 800mhz/GF 9800GT, i only bought my M9 case last year so theystill laughed at my older system and still laugh at my new system having a crappy video, was saving up for a 5850 but i can settle for anything that can match or asskick their 9800GTs until i can save enough for a 5850 since i can always sell any vidcard i can get now
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May 6, 2010 1:11:27 AM

Hahaha, I chuckled :) 

I was in a similar position some time ago, stuck with my 9500GT whilst a friend boasted his alienware laptop with "Radeon" (the guy knows nothing about computers, and cares not how much his dad forks for computer stuff). I ended up getting a 4870, and eventually rebuilt my system. The 4870 was the best card I had, the value was unsurpassed. Recently I bought a 5850, which turned out to be almost as good (for the time) as the 4870.

As for the recommendation, Any current gen card above the X7XX (ie, 4750, 4770 etc) will be equivalent to a 9800GT. However, I suggest you bite the bullet and take the insults until you can either buy a 5850, or a 5770. Both are excellent value, both will destroy 9800s. Hope my comment wasn't too lengthly, and good day to you.
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May 6, 2010 1:17:14 AM

9800GT ~ HD 4850 about the same price too.
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May 6, 2010 1:18:12 AM

^4850 slipped my mind, good choice as well if they are available.
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May 6, 2010 1:18:19 AM

Just get the HD5770 for now. Like I said it is about 50% faster than the 9800GT. The nice thing is your motherboard is crossfire capable and your PSU is (much) more than capable of running 2 of those cards. So you can add another when you have the money and 2 HD5770s in crossfire will give you average frame rates higher than an HD5870. You can read more about it here;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
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May 6, 2010 1:32:48 AM

jyjjy said:
Just get the HD5770 for now. Like I said it is about 50% faster than the 9800GT. The nice thing is your motherboard is crossfire capable and your PSU is (much) more than capable of running 2 of those cards. So you can add another when you have the money and 2 HD5770s in crossfire will give you average frame rates higher than an HD5870. You can read more about it here;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...


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May 6, 2010 1:58:59 AM

xtian63 said:
i want to buy an ATI vidcard that is equal or even is 1 step above the 9800GT 1gb, because my idiot friends laugh at my new system not having a vidcard


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

As seena bove, THG folks would out you in a 5670, tho for almost the same price you could get a 250 GTS or 4850
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

I gotta assume any future upgrades you do will include a 1290 x 1200 / 1080 HD monitor. Unfortunately, Dx11 at that resolution is a bit hard on a 5770. (NOTE: THG lists it as in the $125 market segment but I have yet to be able to find a 5770 card on newegg for the prices they list each month for the 5770's. Cheapest one I see that is not sold by Powercolor is $159 which I think is a bit more than you need to spend right now.

I'd stick to your original plan and grab something for $100 or less....here's a killer buy:

$89 for a GTS 250 and it includes two free game downloads
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 6, 2010 2:24:39 AM

He never said anything about his current resolution so assuming an upgrade is an odd thing to do. Anyway if so that GTS 250 certainly wont cut it for 1920x1080 and will need to be ditched entirely to upgrade on a non-SLI motherboard.
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May 6, 2010 2:30:09 AM

had to edit my specs, i already have a 1080p LEDTV as my monitor in my room
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May 6, 2010 3:15:35 AM

Yeah, for 1080p the HD5770 is the minimum you'll want. It will be good but you wont be able to max out the settings/AA on the more intensive games. Aiming for another in crossfire in the future is a good idea.
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May 6, 2010 5:12:39 AM

Ordinarily I would concur with an HD5850 over 2 HD5770s but he is saying he doesn't have the money so one HD5770 now + another later serves his purposes perfectly.
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May 6, 2010 6:16:38 AM

Question, does the onboard do what you want/need to do? If your not gaming, you don't need the video card. Onboard is fine if you just want to browse the web or watch movies.

If you do game, I suggest looking at the 4830, 4770, 4850, 5750 or GTS250. Any of those cards will do fine.
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May 6, 2010 7:27:07 AM

jyjjy said:
The HD5770 is about 50% faster than the 9800GT and half the price of the HD5850.



really ? i don't doubt but really ? did you have them both ? seems like a lot....



my answer to question...closest thing to it 4770..which is a bit better by a limited but still noticeable amount


or likely the 4830...but it might be harder to find...but likely cheaper
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May 6, 2010 8:45:29 AM

Get the 5770 HAWK by MSI. That should shut your friends up :) 
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May 6, 2010 9:30:49 AM

The 4830 and 5670 are the ATI equivalents to the 9800GT.

Consult the Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart for comparable models.

ATI step-ups from weakest to strongest: 4770, 5750, 4850, 5770, 4870, 4890, 5830. (At stock settings, of course.)
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May 6, 2010 10:47:01 AM

thanks for all the input, im gona hunt for a good deal on an xfx 5770, i can sell it and get a 5850 or a 2nd 5770 later on just to smoke those 2 idiots
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May 6, 2010 4:51:51 PM

9800gt = 4770 while a 5770 is an upgrade over both.
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May 13, 2010 12:08:39 AM

Best answer selected by xtian63.
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June 10, 2010 10:20:14 PM

xtian63 said:
rebuilt my system:
...
new replacements
AMD Phenom X2 955 BE 3.2ghz = $169
MSI 890GXM-G65 = came free with the CPU
4gb Corsiar DDR3 1333mhz = $79(after $40 rebate from $119)
Antec TruePower New Blue 750w 80+ Bronze = $79(after $20 rebate from $99)
no vidcard yet, using HD 4290 craptastic onboard GPU
23" Vizio LEDHDTV 1920x1080
...


I'm in the same boat as you without the nagging friends. I bought the X4 965 w/ Asus board, same RAM, and same PSU.

jyjjy said:
Just get the HD5770 for now. Like I said it is about 50% faster than the 9800GT. The nice thing is your motherboard is crossfire capable and your PSU is (much) more than capable of running 2 of those cards. So you can add another when you have the money and 2 HD5770s in crossfire will give you average frame rates higher than an HD5870. You can read more about it here;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...


I plan to go this upgrade route when my budget allows it, too. What brand would you guys recommend?

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June 10, 2010 11:26:14 PM

Brand doesn't really matter too much in terms of performance, but my ATI preferences are XFX, ASUS, and MSI. That's based mostly on item quality, warranty, and tech support experiences with those companies.
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June 11, 2010 12:24:54 AM

Best answer selected by mousemonkey.
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June 11, 2010 12:34:26 AM

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