First time build questions

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: approx 1-2 weeks. BUDGET RANGE: £800(ish) for everything including OS etc.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, surfing etc the usual

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: none, need everything

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: not sure wherevers cheapest and delivers to UK (not newegg)

PARTS PREFERENCES: none

OVERCLOCKING: no for now possibly in the future SLI OR CROSSFIRE: probably not

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

heres what im thinking at the moment.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1055T-Thuban-Sok-AM3-28GHz-9MB-Total-Cache-125W-Retail

MOBO: MSI 770-G45
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/MSI-770-G45-AMD-770-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-1600-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX

GPU: either 1GB XFX HD5770
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-XFX-HD5770-PCI-E-20%28x16%29-4800MHz-GDDR5-GPU-850MHz-Cores-800-2x-DL-DVI-I-HDMI

or i may get the 1GB Sapphire HD 5830 as its only £30 more and seems quite a bit better.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-Sapphire-HD-5830-PCI-E-21%28x16%29-4000MHz-GDDR5-GPU-800MHz-1120-Cores-DP-DL-DVI-HDMI

RAM: 4GB Corsair DDR3 1333mhz
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-Corsair-DDR3-PC3-10666-%281333%29-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-9-9-9-24-150V

CASE: Antec 200
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Antec-Two-Hundred-Value-Gaming-Case-HOT-SWAP-SATA-HDD-BAY-included-10-drive-bays-140mmplus120mm-fans

PSU: Antec basiq 500w
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/500W-Antec-Basiq-Power-PSU

HDD: 500GB Samsung spinpoint f3
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/500Gb-Samsung-Spinpoint-F3-HD502HJ-SATA-3Gb-s-7200rpm-16Mb-Cache-8ms-OEM

MONITOR: 22" LG LED LCD
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/22-LG-E2240S-LED-Widescreen-HD-Monitor-1920x1080-5-ms-50000001-Black

Also will get Win 7, a DVD drive and keyboard.

Future possible upgrades when i have more money will be:
another HDD in RAID, another 4Gb memory, better CPU cooler and maybe another GPU in crossfire although ill need a better PSU or just a better GPU.

Questions:

1) its the old AMD vs Intel, either that mobo and cpu or an i5 750 and a cheap 1156 mobo. Apparently the i5 has the edge in gaming and most things but the mobo in my budget doesnt have RAID and i doubt i will be able to upgrade to another 1156 socket CPU so ill have to get another mobo when i do but the AM3 will probably be around for longer.

2) Is the PSU up to scratch? I read a review or two and apparently its capable of a solid and stable 500w and i wont need it to crossfire.

3) Is it worth getting LED LCD? theyre supposed to have better contrast ratio etc but if theres a cheaper 22" or 23/24" for the same price i might change it i dont really know much about monitors.

4) The case comes with 120mm and 140mm exhaust fans will i need more if so where?

5) Where should i buy my parts from? all the links are from scan.co.uk atm but I've seen some of the items cheaper at ebuyer.com and with free postage. What other UK retailers are there and what would u reccomend?

6) this is my first build so any help/advice/suggestions are welcome.

Thanks
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  1. I would drop to the AMD Phenom II x4 955 black edition. You are gaining no benefit for gaming using 6 cores and is not worth the money.

    If possible, with the money saved I would really try to push for the 5850. The 5770 is not a great card for your resolution and the 5830 is not powerful enough to get instead at that resolution.

    You don't need more than 4gb of RAM for gaming so do not worry about it, I doubt you will need to get more RAM before you need a new computer.

    Get the RAM from ebuyer or novatech and I recommend G Skill 1600mhz CL7 (should be about £102). Aside from being faster, it has a lower latency which is good.

    1) Intel has the edge but when on a budget the edge is not enough to justify the extra cost as it means having to sacrifice quality elsewhere - given that you are already looking at the budget GPUs this is definately not an option

    2) The PSU will not cope with a 5850 if ever you can afford that or better. I actually bought Scans own product - Powercool PSU, it is working fine now but I cannot recommend it yet, maybe in a few years if all is still well I can with confidence say it is a good buy (it cost £52 for 750W modular)

    3) I care little for LED, normal flat screen monitors have done perfectly fine. But then again, LED are not much more expensive. You can buy a normal LCD for £112 made by Acer to save a little if you need

    4) No, you don't need more fans, you will be fine with what is there

    5) Scan is usually my favorite place as they deliver in a day or two. (you may also be able to get free delivery by signing up to bit-tech forums?) otherwise there is ebayer, overclockers.com and novatech which you can look at to compare prices. There is of course Ebay itself (I bought my 5850 for just less than £200 there)

    6) Avoid building on carpet, make sure you touch the case each time before touching parts to ensure you discharge any static
  2. 1)I think AMD is your best option at this budget, especially when a monitor needs to be included.

    2)The Basiq series is not Antec's best (their worst is probably better than some other's 'best'), but would probably be fine, altho I personally would prefer this PSU: 530W Be Quiet PurePower L7 £45 This would be able to crossfire two 5770s, so no need to change it in that case.
    If you were to get a 5830 then I would want to up the PSU a bit more as the 5830 is more power hungry.

    3)Seems like a good monitor to me, and LED LCDs are the future, have you checked out a review of it? I don't know that much about monitors either. It would help if some of the specs that are stated could be relied on.

    4) I would probably put at least one fan in the front. As it will help with bringing cool air into the case.

    5 & 6)You do not really the need a hexacore, the Phenom II X4 955 would provide a saving of ~£30 and be just as good in gaming. Unfortunately Scan only stock the IBOX C2 version, it would be preferable to get the newer MBOX C3 version.

    Ebuyer will have better RAM for the price: Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Ballistix Memory Kit CL7 (7-7-7-24) 1.65V £90

    From what I remember of the review(s) I read of the 5830, it is only significantly better when you turn down/off AA. Altho it might help to have it at 1080 resolution.

    If you wanna save 3 quid, then this is still a very fast HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB £35.

    For a gaming build you aren't going to need more than 4GB of RAM for awhile, so unless it is quite awhile down the line or there's something you havent told us yet, then I'd scratch that from your future upgrade path, or at least put it as a low priority.
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