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August 12, 2010 12:42:04 AM

Athlon II X4 635 or
Phenom II X2 555 c3 or
Phenom X4 9550

motherboard: gigabyte ga-m56s-s3 http://ee.giga-byte.com/products/mb/cpulist/ga-m56s-s3_...
ram:3g atm upgrading 6g
hdd:2tb wd
graphic card:xpertvision 8600gt super 512 mb gddr3 128bit (main weakness...do you think that it is any good? (planing to buy ati sapphire) )

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August 12, 2010 1:44:53 AM

The Athlon II X4 635 is the obvious choice out of the three you've mentioned.. 8600GT is not that powerful for any modern age game regardless of the game and/or resolution & settings.. Try to get an ATI HD 5770 1GB instead..
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August 12, 2010 6:50:43 AM

+1^
Between those,go with Athlon II X4 CPU.
And definitely change your VGA for gaming purposes.
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August 12, 2010 7:01:51 AM

X4 635, or even a 440 if budgets an issue,
Plus you wont need 6Gb, in any shape 6Gb is going to lose you your dual channel
better stick to 4gb imo and go for that Sapphire 5770 :) 
Moto
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August 12, 2010 7:07:40 AM

X4 635 for me too.

But why 8600GT now? Its a waste!

What's your total budget for the GPU?

6GB as everyone said is useless. Most applications don't fully utilize 4GB at all. So you can stick to 4GB and spend the rest on the card.
August 12, 2010 9:19:01 AM

hell_storm2004 said:
X4 635 for me too.

But why 8600GT now? Its a waste!

What's your total budget for the GPU?

6GB as everyone said is useless. Most applications don't fully utilize 4GB at all. So you can stick to 4GB and spend the rest on the card.


for the gpu 800$ atm. and my gpu because its from my old pc and i didn't buy a new one
August 12, 2010 9:22:46 AM

$800 for the whole setup ? where are you going to buy online ? are you looking at a whole new $800 build
August 12, 2010 9:24:47 AM

only for the card mate i get the cpu for free
August 12, 2010 9:27:25 AM

which is the better cpu heres a good artical might help you decide
AMD's New Year Refresh: Athlon II X4 635, Phenom II X2 555, Athlon II X2 255 & Athlon II X3 440
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2923/1
August 12, 2010 9:34:27 AM

by the way ( i know its a off-topic) how important is l3 cache because the athlon ain't got any.....
August 12, 2010 9:52:38 AM

and what about a phenom Phenom II X4 925 vs Athlon II X4 635 is it much better?
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August 12, 2010 11:05:33 AM

L3 cache is important when it comes to gaming. If you are into gaming then i think the L3 cache would be handy and if you are looking at Phenoms then get a Phenom II 955 and get it over and done with.

In the post above you mentioned that $800 for the GPU? Is that true? You can get a HD5970 for that!
August 12, 2010 11:10:38 AM

hell_storm2004 said:
L3 cache is important when it comes to gaming. If you are into gaming then i think the L3 cache would be handy and if you are looking at Phenoms then get a Phenom II 955 and get it over and done with.

In the post above you mentioned that $800 for the GPU? Is that true? You can get a HD5970 for that!


yeah. i don't want nvidia cards anymore ... i will get the best ati card for the money i have....
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August 12, 2010 11:13:46 AM

So is it $800 for the whole upgrade or just the GPU?
August 12, 2010 11:52:36 AM

hell_storm2004 said:
So is it $800 for the whole upgrade or just the GPU?


just the graphic card
August 12, 2010 11:58:32 AM

ok guys i ordered the Phenom II X4 925 thank you for all your support :) 
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August 12, 2010 12:01:50 PM

Amazing!! $800 you can get:

HD5970
HD5850 1GB CF
And some HD 5870 CF as well.

GTX460 1GB SLI
GTX470 SLI
GTX480

With that budget you can get pretty much anything you want.

If you prefer a single card solution then the HD 5970 would certainly kill all competion. Otherwise i suggest the GTX470 SLI.

Also make sure you have a good PSU.
August 12, 2010 12:05:24 PM

hell_storm2004 said:
Amazing!! $800 you can get:

HD5970
HD5850 1GB CF
And some HD 5870 CF as well.

GTX460 1GB SLI
GTX470 SLI
GTX480

With that budget you can get pretty much anything you want.

If you prefer a single card solution then the HD 5970 would certainly kill all competion. Otherwise i suggest the GTX470 SLI.

Also make sure you have a good PSU.


yes mate, i do prefer a single card :D  because i have only one pci express x16 slot .... and yes probably i will take the ati
HD5970
a b à CPUs
August 12, 2010 12:12:20 PM

Wow that is so much money for a GPU setup... Why a cheap CPU? Shoulda just gone with the extra and went for the 955 =P A perfectly fine setup is 5850 CF, the reason being 5850's can actually be OC'd to the point of a 5870 stock. I have a single 5850 950/1205 and it runs at the same speed as a single 5870. So if your able to OC the 5850's to around 900/1XXX you'll be able to save 200$ and in essence have 5870 CF.

Also, just for your future reference for L3 Cache. It isnt THAT important for even gaming. The difference is probably only 2-5 fps, which isn't a huge difference.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241...
August 12, 2010 1:20:27 PM

aznshinobi said:
Wow that is so much money for a GPU setup... Why a cheap CPU? Shoulda just gone with the extra and went for the 955 =P A perfectly fine setup is 5850 CF, the reason being 5850's can actually be OC'd to the point of a 5870 stock. I have a single 5850 950/1205 and it runs at the same speed as a single 5870. So if your able to OC the 5850's to around 900/1XXX you'll be able to save 200$ and in essence have 5870 CF.

Also, just for your future reference for L3 Cache. It isnt THAT important for even gaming. The difference is probably only 2-5 fps, which isn't a huge difference.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241...


thanks for the link mate, great info. :lol: 
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August 12, 2010 1:22:39 PM

tztest said:
yes mate, i do prefer a single card :D  because i have only one pci express x16 slot .... and yes probably i will take the ati
HD5970

5970 is a great card but what resolution do you play at ?
August 12, 2010 1:31:24 PM

Maziar said:
5970 is a great card but what resolution do you play at ?


1920x1080
a c 81 à CPUs
August 12, 2010 1:58:29 PM

5970 would still be a dual card setup.. Better go for the GTX 480.. Pair it up with a powerful CPU though to avoid any bottlenecks..
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August 12, 2010 6:27:11 PM

O.o no..... he already bought his CPU... Plus he could just OC to avoid bottlenecks...
August 12, 2010 6:56:37 PM

aznshinobi said:
O.o no..... he already bought his CPU... Plus he could just OC to avoid bottlenecks...


for your info i didn't buy it .... i could send it back when it arrives get my money back and order a new one... simple
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August 12, 2010 9:35:25 PM

Ohhh, Ok. Well If you could just take like a small portion like 30$ more and you could get a 955. More like 20ish$. The 955 has the unlocked multi so you'll be able to OC further that way it'll decrease the likeliness of a bottleneck if you get the 5970. Higher clock speed = less bottle neck (usually thats the case) Plus the 955 could easily get to 3.9-4.0ghz on air. Say like a Hyper 212+, which cools great and it's only 20 sum dollars. Don't get the 212+ on newegg its double from any other store.
August 12, 2010 9:50:34 PM

aznshinobi said:
Ohhh, Ok. Well If you could just take like a small portion like 30$ more and you could get a 955. More like 20ish$. The 955 has the unlocked multi so you'll be able to OC further that way it'll decrease the likeliness of a bottleneck if you get the 5970. Higher clock speed = less bottle neck (usually thats the case) Plus the 955 could easily get to 3.9-4.0ghz on air. Say like a Hyper 212+, which cools great and it's only 20 sum dollars. Don't get the 212+ on newegg its double from any other store.


i cannot support the 955 black edition.... and i cannot find the 95w one in my country :(  (not from USA) ... i would import it but its freakin' expensive...
highest i can go is 945 ..... ;(
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August 13, 2010 2:02:52 AM

OH ok, the 945 is alright, it's not to shabby. I'm sure you'll be able to hit like 3.9 or 3.8
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