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June 14, 2010 7:01:49 PM

As the title suggests, I am planning on building my first PC, a gaming PC to be precise. I'm sure I can find instructions on how to do so on the internet, but that is not my problem. The parts I'm looking at now are below:

Processor: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755 Intel Core i5 750 (£165)
PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146722 Antec Signature Series 850W (£150)
Graphics Card: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/199781 ATI Radeon 5870 (£315)
Memory: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191178 Corsiar 4GB DDR3 (£115)
Hard Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB (£55)
Motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/194854 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro (£110)
Thermal Paste: http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-Thermal-Compound-Freeze/dp/B00128TA78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276630915&sr=8-1 OCZ Freeze (£7)
Monitor: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/194604 LG 22" HD Monitor 1920x1080 (£130)
Disk Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191042 Samsung SH-B083L (£65)
Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/118268 Antec 900 (£70)
Internet-gubbins: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/220221 Edimax Wireless-N150 (£18)
OS: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173791 Windows 7 64-Bit OEM (£80)

Overall: £1280

Now I have a couple questions.
- With these specs, would I be able to play games like Crysis, Company Of Heroes, Dawn Of War II, Metro 2033 etc. on full setting smoothly?
- Does the motherboard include a heatsink, sound card etc., or would I have to buy separate ones?
- Is this DirectX 11 compatible?
- Finally, would I need any other cables, or is this everything I'd need to build a PC?

I've only just joined this forum, impress me :D 
June 14, 2010 7:57:46 PM

Yeah, that setup will run all of those titles really smoothly.
1. the processor will come with its own heatsink, but if you want to OC, (and i suggest you do as the i5 750 clocks really nice) you need to get an aftermarket cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157
2. the mobo comes with onboard surround sound, no need to waste money on an external card
3. all the cables you need will come with the mobo and psu
June 14, 2010 8:02:34 PM

I'm pretty useless when it comes to techie knowledge. What's overclocking?
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June 14, 2010 8:20:08 PM

TheCheesy4 said:
I'm pretty useless when it comes to techie knowledge. What's overclocking?


Pushing the CPU faster than it originally starts with. A very easy way to get more performance for no extra money. Only downside is that power consumption goes up, and the heat goes up, so an aftermarket cooelr is neeeded, as the stock intel one isnt up to much
June 14, 2010 8:25:52 PM

Hereisphilly said:
Pushing the CPU faster than it originally starts with. A very easy way to get more performance for no extra money. Only downside is that power consumption goes up, and the heat goes up, so an aftermarket cooelr is neeeded, as the stock intel one isnt up to much


Ah, thanks. Well, that's all my questions done. I must say, I'm impressed :D 

One more question, would I be able to play the Crysis Natural Mod smoothly on full?
June 14, 2010 8:34:58 PM

TheCheesy4 said:
Ah, thanks. Well, that's all my questions done. I must say, I'm impressed :D 

One more question, would I be able to play the Crysis Natural Mod smoothly on full?


With a 5870, easily, no problems at all
June 14, 2010 8:40:16 PM

Brilliant. That's all, thanks.
June 14, 2010 9:43:16 PM

Actually, I have one more question. I assume it would be able to, as I'm pretty sure Crysis is as good as graphics are at the moment, but would I be able to play Dragon Age?
June 14, 2010 10:24:55 PM

Easily mate, Crysis is still one of the most demanding titles still to play (inefficient coding). I play dragon age on my 5850 fully maxed no problem, so a 5870 will destroy it
June 15, 2010 10:24:59 AM

epkfaile said:
this WILL NOT play crysis maxxed out. at 1920 x 1200 4x aa high settings you get 45fps. after you set everyting on very high and trun up the aa a bit mre, youll be probably at 20~
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/powercolor-5870-lcs...


I disagree, it should be fine with everything on, might slightly stutter in places, but it shoudnt fall 25fps for a slight increase in detail
June 15, 2010 11:58:17 AM

The RAM is CAS 9 which is the slowest yu can buy, I'd upgrade to CAS 7's at least, but if you guys get same rebates as US, the Mushkin CAS 6's are a terrific buy right now

$ 110 2 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$130 2 x 2GB Mushkin Redline
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd opt for a SATA III / USB Board such as the ASUS P7P55D-E Pro

Artic Silver takes 200 hours to cure (on their own website)....OCZ Freeze and IC Diamond are better performers and don't suffer this handicap.

http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Hard Drives - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The 2 TB WD Black and XT from Seagate are good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)

Look at the tests that reflect your usage and choose accordingly.

As for your GFX card, you'll need twin 5870's or twin 470's to play Metro 2033 at 1920 x 120 and highest settings. Twin 5850's come up a bit short of the 30 fps minimum target

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
June 15, 2010 7:49:50 PM

With the specs I had at the beginning, would I be able to play those games fine if I turned the anti-aliasing down? It doesn't seem too vital, and I'm running on a budget.
June 16, 2010 5:50:11 AM

Definitely yes, you could bump the aa a nit too and it would be fine
June 16, 2010 5:34:54 PM

Hereisphilly said:
Definitely yes, you could bump the aa a nit too and it would be fine


Spiffing. I'll probably get those specs, then maybe buy a second 5870 in a bit. Thanks for the help, everyone.
June 16, 2010 5:42:51 PM

Definitely recommend this memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's 1600mhz cas 7 for $110 free shipping. Just put this in my own build, and it's wonderful stuff. Runs cas 7 at 1.35v, so you don't have to worry about the memory controller in the cpu at all, as it's well below intel's original 1.5v max spec for the i-series integrated memory controllers.
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