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Dear forum members,

 

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BUDGET: 1000 euro's for the tower

 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1-2 months, time is not an issue. I'm a careful buyer.

 

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming!, general usage (office, web, multitasking, nothing special like rendering).

 

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Everything outside the tower, software (OS) and DVD drive.

 

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Any Dutch.

 

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Holland.

 

PARTS PREFERENCES: None.

 

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe down the road.

 

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Have to buy new screen.

 

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Only the tower, no screen, looks aren't important. Quality is very important.

 

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Here's what I've come up with.

 

CASE: HAF 922 (80,-)
PSU: Either Seasonic X-750 (150,-) or Corsair TX-750 (115,-) or Antec TP-750 (103,-)
RAM: Corsair Dominator CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 (125,-)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB (45,-)
GPU: Either HD5850 DIRECTCU (300,-) or HD5870 Vapor-X (380,-)

 

And now here's where the troubles are:

 

MOBO + CPU

 

1156: Either Asus P7P55D Pro (145,-) or MSI P55-GD65 (120,-) with either i5 750 (190,-) or i7 860 (240,-)

 

AM3: Asus M4A89GTD PRO (115,- w/o USB3 or +20,- w/ USB3) with Phenom 955 (150,-)

 


Any input is welcome.

 

Thanks in advance!


Message edited by AimHigh on 06-15-2010 at 01:41:23 PM
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Go for the AM3 combo with USB3. I also recommend buying the HD 5870. The Corsair looks like a good PSU. Everything else looks good. Good Luck!

Reply to MAZWANTGUN
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Thanks for the input!
1 vote for the AM3 way.

Reply to AimHigh

the i5 will run circles around the amd if you OC. It just depends on how much you want to spend.

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http://www.cool-prices.nl/nl/produ [...] box-586784

goeie website en goedkoop heb er al van bestelt

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Reply to Somebody_007

The ideal mobo for Intel would be P7P55D-E Pro, not sure how much more it is.

i5 750 over the 860 pretty much everytime.

Whether you go i5 750 or go AMD is up to you and dependant on what fits in budget. The i5 750 is better but then it and the mobo costs more, if the price difference means getting a lesser graphics card in order to get the Intel chip then it may be worth going AMD.

Are you able to get G Skill RAM? They tend to be cheaper than Corsair. The G SKill Ripjaw CL7 should be a similar price but better latency


Message edited by asteldian on 06-15-2010 at 04:39:07 PM
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P7P55D-E Pro is almost 200,-

G.Skill RAM isn't widely available in my country so I can't get those. Especially the low CL ones are very high priced IF they are available...

Reply to AimHigh

In europe the only good deals are mushkins and corsairs. The corsairs are very good by the way they are just conservativly clocked. I went with the mushkins due to the low profile though.

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
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Can't find alot of 4 gig dual channel mushkin sets so I'll stick with corsair. Thanks :3.
Need more help with the MOBO and CPU though.

Reply to AimHigh

I don't know a lot about the mobos in that area but for the cpu as I said it just depends on how much you want to spend. They are all reasonably good deals.

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
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Allright, but the choice is hard though!

Reply to AimHigh

First of all, the 750 is a better gaming cpu than the 955. Plus, it overclocks like a dream.
Secondly, you can also overclock the 5850 to bring it's performance to near 5870 levels. The 5850 is the current performance/price champion in the upper-end card segment. Overclocking will increase it's value even more.
An OCd 750+5850 combo will serve you well atleast for the next couple of years. No doubt going the AM3 way will make you eligible for a future processor upgrade, but as of now, it's performance is lesser than 750.

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The question is, will the i5 vs. 955 be worth it with either the 5850 or the 5870. It's a hard question imo.


Message edited by AimHigh on 06-16-2010 at 12:29:42 PM
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you won't go wrong with either really.

There just is no right answer to that question really.

5870 will be better in gaming and the i5 may improve some loading times and other applications.

If you want FPS than go 5870.

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
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The question is, will the i5 vs. 955 be worth it with either the 5850 or the 5870. It's a hard question imo.



So here I'm assuming that you can afford the 5870 either way.
Then between the CPUs, its 750. Holds it's own against the more expensive i7s plus trumps the 955 in almost all the benchmarks.

Reply to ksampanna

Both the i5-750 and the X4 955 are great processors. The i5-750 is ahead in most benchmarks, but it isn't significantly ahead in gaming.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=109

Reply to coldsleep

yeah but the 750 has quite some OC cabability the 955 not so much.

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
Reply to Somebody_007

Doing some quick googling, I see people that have gotten the C3 stepping 955 to 4+ GHz.

 

(all first page of google results for "x4 955 overclock c3" )

 

http://www.overclockers.com/forums [...] p?t=629758
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id- [...] clock.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] rev/7.html

 

And since we all know that overclocking is highly dependent on the actual physical chip you get, not just the model, is there actually any point to saying "oh well chip X overclocks better than chip Y all the time"?

 

And...seeing as how the OP is saying that he'll "maybe" overclock, I don't think overclockability is going to be a huge factor in the purchase.


Message edited by coldsleep on 06-22-2010 at 09:17:00 PM
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ok thnx for breaking me down lol. At least he knows the truth now.

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
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I guess the 40 euro more cost for the chip and maybe equal for the motherboard won't be 40+ euro more advantage in games. So I guess ill stick with the 955.

Right?

Reply to AimHigh

If the price difference doesn't allow you to buy a better graphics card, then it's up to personal preference.

 

I'd say it's not worth the cost difference, but other people may feel differently. Either chip will be good for your purposes though.


Message edited by coldsleep on 06-22-2010 at 09:49:39 PM
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So 955 + 5870 over i5 + 5850 i guess.


Message edited by AimHigh on 06-23-2010 at 12:10:45 AM
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in gaming 955+ 5870 will be far better than i5 + 5850. In other things like redering, etc.. the i5 will be better

------------------------------ i7 930 - Lian li a71f - aerocool v12xt - 850hx - 470gtx - ga x58a ud5 - 640gb WB black in raid0 + 2x2tb - nh d14 - 6gb redline enhanced 1600 cl6
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The choice seems easy then. Now let's search for a nice MOBO.

Reply to AimHigh

How much do you want to spend on the mobo?

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