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Can This Computer Accommodate a GTX 260 Core 216?

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May 9, 2010 3:05:21 PM

Hi All,

I am considering buying this computer from Newegg and I was wondering if it would support the installation of a GTX 260 core 216 video card ... For that matter would it accommodate anything higher such as a GTX 285? or doubtully a GTX 470?

My main confusion is over the Voltage requirements of the card "Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 24 Amp Amps."

What are "Amp Amps."???

The PSU on the computer has 4 12 volt rails. Do I add those together? I know there's more to it than this ... To cut to the chase, here is the link to the computer on Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And the specific Video Card I would like to upgrade to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks in advance for anyone's help!

Cog
May 9, 2010 3:11:01 PM

Correction on GTX 260 core 216 Video Card Requirements:

"Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp Amps."

[I mistakenly copied the 9800GTX+ specs above]
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 3:13:42 PM

cognitoo said:
What are "Amp Amps."???
Typo.
The actual +12V Amps available is usually different from the sum of the 4 rails.
That power supply should have no trouble with GTX 285 or GTX 470. Plenty of power.

Have you thought about buying direct from iBuyPower? Saves the cost of the GT 220 video card at least.
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May 9, 2010 3:19:13 PM

Hey WR2,

No I hadn't thought of going dorect to iBuypower but will now ... I just thought for $589 after rebate I wasn't going to get any cheaper. But I will check it out!

Thanks, Cog
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 3:27:04 PM

It looks like the GT 220 was a $74 upgrade vs $50 newegg rebate.
You'll want to look at the shipping charges as well.

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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 3:34:14 PM

jeffredo said:
Here's your power supply:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Just add up the amps on the 12V rails.

Doesn't work that way.
If you add the amps you end up with 74a.
74a x 12v = 888 watts, not going to happen.
There's a little line on the label that show's 600 watts available to the 12v rails.
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May 9, 2010 3:37:18 PM

Wow you guys are great!

Do I have any other concerns such as MOBO compatibility or RAM issues?

I know Windows 7 takes up a lot of RAM but with the Video Card having it's own 896mb, I can't see how that would be an issue [?]

I can't discren the particular MSI MOBO on the machine ... do MOBO's have any compatability issues?

Thanks again, Cog
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May 9, 2010 3:44:17 PM

cognitoo said:
Wow you guys are great!

Do I have any other concerns such as MOBO compatibility or RAM issues?

I know Windows 7 takes up a lot of RAM but with the Video Card having it's own 896mb, I can't see how that would be an issue [?]

I can't discren the particular MSI MOBO on the machine ... do MOBO's have any compatability issues?

Thanks again, Cog

You should not have a single problem, and windows 7 does not take that much ram.
Overall, really nice pc, and the 260 is going to be an amazing plus!!!!
Gotta love the 260 :love: 
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 3:46:19 PM

cognitoo said:
I know Windows 7 takes up a lot of RAM but with the Video Card having it's own 896mb, I can't see how that would be an issue [?]
While Win7 does take up a lot of RAM it will also 'give back' a lot of that when it's needed by your running programs. A lot of what Win7 is using is SuperFetch data brought from the hard-disk for your programs.

Do you want to think about a P55 motherboard vs the H55 motherboard? The P55 is more 'gaming oriented' since it has a 2nd PCI-e x16 video card slot.
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May 9, 2010 4:00:29 PM

I don't really plan on doing any SLI ... I never really saw the reason for it as it usually only improves FPS by a small percentage. Why SLI 2 $200 cards when you can get better performance from 1 $400 card?

Interesting what you said about "superfetch data" I will have to look that up! :o 

I did look at iBuypower directly and the same machine costs ~80 more from them direct; however they throw in a "free" water cooling system and somehow charge an extra $80 more for "professional wiring" ... the same sleeved wiring that sells at Newegg for now a total of $160 less. Strange........
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May 9, 2010 4:11:30 PM

Check the Superfetch link in my previous post.

It's true you might not want to Crossfire/SLI your system but the person you sell it to next might. It could get you a little extra on the back on.

There is a reason why THG's 'Best Graphics Cards For The Money: April 2010' at ~$210-$230 recommends 2 x Radeon HD 4850 in CrossFire or 2 x GeForce GTS 250 in SLI
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2010 4:11:59 PM

Newegg cuts out all human interaction (most) and configurability. Much like your about to buy a extra video card and ditch the one that comes with it. That allows for a streamlined price. You can't change anything. You also will probably get the PC faster. Its in a box ready to be shipped.
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May 9, 2010 5:36:32 PM

Just one more question for anyone who is still looking at this thread:

For the slight chance I decide to go with a GTX 470 on this cheap putter.. will I need to add more RAM? Should I just abandon the idea of the 470 and stick with the GTX 260 core 216? It's just that the 260 is $209 and the 470 is $359 ... seems pretty cheap when considering price / performance. I'm torn but must decide today before the sale and rebate on the computer and sale on 470 ends.

The little $589.99 Gem:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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May 9, 2010 5:38:09 PM

cognitoo said:
Just one more question for anyone who is still looking at this thread:

For the slight chance I decide to go with a GTX 470 on this cheap putter.. will I need to add more RAM? Should I just abandon the idea of the 470 and stick with the GTX 260 core 216? It's just that the 260 is $209 and the 470 is $359 ... seems pretty cheap when considering price / performance. I'm torn but must decide today before the sale and rebate on the computer and sale on 470 ends.

The little $589.99 Gem:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Nope, no ram update necesary :pt1cable: 
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May 9, 2010 7:30:49 PM

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