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"Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>> "Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:424D1CD3.1F37875A@ix.nospam.netcom.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Thunderchief" <dnb@thunderchief1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:d2i51n$esb$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk
>>>>> There I was, minding my own business, when McGrandpa said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Thunderchief" <dnb@thunderchief1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:d2hu4f$67q$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk
>>>>>>> There I was, minding my own business, when McGrandpa said...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Thunderchief" <dnb@thunderchief1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:d2hjad$ohn$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk
>>>>>>>>> Guess what? I did it!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.thunderchief1.freeserve.co.uk/tomb/tomb.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Woohoo!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Duncan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Congrats man! Hm. Now you're ready for PW's "Deadly Sands"
>>>>>>>> challenge!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean theres more?!?!?!?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duncan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh it's just something to do in the Egyptian (Shadow of the Cat)
>>>>>> part of the UB levels.
>>>>>> Interested?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought the challange was getting out into the sands and finding
>>>>> the uzis and zapping the couple of zombie things? Theres more to
>>>>> it than that?
>>>>>
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duncan
>>>>> Whos also been clambering about ON TOP of the Temple of the Cat in
>>>>> the spirit of going places we shouldn't
>>>>
>>>> Now THAT is what I'm talking about
>>>
>>> Are we talking about the corner bug?
Or have you found a
>>> "legitimate" way of getting up there?
>>>
>>>> Yep, out in the sand dunes, beyond the fences where we're not
>>>> supposed to go.... know that bridge ya gotta cross to get to the
>>>> cat mummy and then exit? You'll be down around the base of that
>>>>
But you'll find deadly sands all around Lara.
>>>> We used to think there was this little oasis like out there, and
>>>> some treasures (pickups, health, ammo).
>>>
>>> There are! Remember that pond out there?
>>>
>>>> Then we get to thinking it's a
>>>> mirage, or optical illusion. You go and tell us what you think.
>>>> You might end up getting the rest of us back out there
Right
>>>> PW, Gary? McG.
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, some of us spent a fair amount of time exploring that area.
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems you can get within around 10 or 15 squares of the outer
>>> boundary (if memory serves) before you hit any of the deadly sands,
>>> but there are exceptions (you can get right up against the boundary
>>> in some spots), and that still leaves much to be explored. You can
>>> get around the temple on the west side (I've always thought of the
>>> temple exit as north for some reason--so you'd ultimately go out and
>>> left (west) to get to the exit). There are some blocks out there
>>> you can just barely reach. And you can get a better view of the
>>> pyramid out there.
>>>
>>> Of course, the main thing is getting out there *legally*. That is,
>>> not using the fence bug. It can be done with a fancy jump near the
>>> exit, but you have to do one of those physics-defying
>>> turn-in-mid-air maneuvers, which feels to me just like using the
>>> fence bug. There's this trench you run through to get to the exit.
>>> Some say you can jump and climb over the ridge at one spot there,
>>> but I've never done it.
>>>
>>> -- G
>>
>> I thought either you or PW had found a block with fence on both sides
>> you could flip onto and just walk out there?
>
> Aside from the fence bug, I don't recall that.
>
>> And another place you can
>> literally just walk out there? I recall finding it by swan diving
>> into the base of the fence at a texture joint. Lara just pops up on
>> the other side
>
> That's the fence bug. You don't have to do any diving, just run at
> the point where the fence meets the block. If you hit that point
> just right, Lara simply runs on through.
I misworded that. I thought there was literally a gap in the fence out
to the sand. It's probably to a 2nd fenced area though.
>
> I have a hypothesis on that... Lara is really only a slender
> cylinder. That's how parts of her body can get into walls (like when
> you do the corner bug). That "Lara cylinder" is narrow enough to go
> through the gap between the fence and the block. It may be that
> there many other gaps we could go through.
Oh right, like a "hit box" in lots of other games, kinda defines point
of collision. Laras IS rather narrow compared to the visible whole of
the model.
>
>> And there's the ridge. That's a low block jump I think.
>> It's also where you meet the cat mummies
The other side of the
>> ridge drops into sort of a road or trough like.
>
> I think it was you who originally talked about there being a way
> along in that area somewhere, but I've never found it. I remember
> at The Crash Site, there is one spot where you can climb up on the
> airplane. Is it something like that?
Well, it looks like a road to me. Maybe they used it as the way to drag
all those blocks up to build the structures
The ridges start low,
and get higher. If you start your run on top of the ridge its how you
get atop that low block PW talks about. Its how I got there anyway.
>
>> The fact there ARE things out
>> there says to me that it is expected we will at least make a show up
>> in the area!
>
> I always though that we were supposed to go out there--originally,
> but they weren't able to finish (time pressure or whatever), and so
> just closed it off. I understand they did a *lot* of that in TRAoD.
Using the fly cheat in AoD, you can see there is a lot of stuff there
you can't get to in-game. Just closed off to us. But, lots of stuff is
still there, unused. I've flown in, stopped the cheat, run around a
couple of those areas. Everything went fine until Lara went through an
exit point, and the game crashed of course. Script ended abruptly with
noplace to go next.
But the Deadly Sands areas, maybe they just didn't remember to close it
all off properly.
McG.
>
> -- G
>
>> I recall now. It all started with that talk on 'easter eggs' and
>> 'the dopefish' . Ha!
>> McG.
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