First Build. Good and Compatible?

[9t9redballoons]

Just wanted to make sure everything's all good and compatible. I'm pretty sure everything's all lined up, but just wanted other eyes looking at it to make sure.

Will the mobo and case work out? Is the power supply of sufficient quality and enough for my build with OC? Is the cooler sufficient or is there a better one with similar value? How do I know if the cooler is compatible anyway...?

Thanks guys. Couldn't have done this without you all.

CASE: Cooler Master HAF
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

MOBO: Asus Crosshair IV
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131644

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

GPU: Powercolor AMD Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131330

RAM: OCZ Platinum 4gb (2x4gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227478

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

PCU: APEVIA ATX-JV 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148041

Cooler: Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142

 

[WR2]

OCZ RAM customer reviews on NewEgg are less enthusiastic than you'd like to see.
Compare G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 1600 Cas7


That APEVIA PSU doesn't match the quality of the rest of your parts.
The data plate shows unusually low +12v rail amperage.

Compare that to the Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W

 

[dmcfc]

I would change the mobo for a cheaper one like a GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX and also change the cpu from a 965 to a 955 which can be overclocked just as far, and will perform just as well.
The money that you saved with that use it at the GPU, and instead of getting the 5770, get a 5830 or 5850, you choose depending on your budget.
The last two things to be changed on that are the PSU and the heatsink. The PSU I think it's a must for such systems to have better quality PSU, for example of a cheap quality PSU a ocz 700w
And the last thing is, that cooler is way to expensive, get something cheaper that will probably perform just as well. I would suggest the sunbeam 120mm or a Cooler Master 212+
And remember to use quality thermal paste! The sunbeam 120mm already comes with good thermal paste, so no need for a better thermal paste, as for the 212 plus get a Artic Cooling MX-2

 

[9t9redballoons]

OCZ RAM customer reviews on NewEgg are less enthusiastic than you'd like to see.
Compare G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 1600 Cas7


That APEVIA PSU doesn't match the quality of the rest of your parts.
The data plate shows unusually low +12v rail amperage.

Compare that to the Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/17-148-041-S06?$S640$

This is true, I'll probably go with the Ripjaws then, thanks.

I kinda just picked that PSU without actually knowing that much about it. I don't really know much about power supplies in general.

Thanks for the input! I definitely wouldn't want sucky RAM...

 

[coldsleep]

Swap Processor and Mobo for 1055T and Biostar 890FX.

OEM Phenom II X6 1055T - 169.99

If it's a 3D rendering build, maybe. If it's for gaming, the OP will get better performance out of the 955/965 X4.

(With the caveat that at most reasonable resolutions, the GPU is more important than the CPU.)

 

[9t9redballoons]

I would change the mobo for a cheaper one like a GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX and also change the cpu from a 965 to a 955 which can be overclocked just as far, and will perform just as well.
The money that you saved with that use it at the GPU, and instead of getting the 5770, get a 5830 or 5850, you choose depending on your budget.
The last two things to be changed on that are the PSU and the heatsink. The PSU I think it's a must for such systems to have better quality PSU, for example of a cheap quality PSU a ocz 700w
And the last thing is, that cooler is way to expensive, get something cheaper that will probably perform just as well. I would suggest the sunbeam 120mm or a Cooler Master 212+
And remember to use quality thermal paste! The sunbeam 120mm already comes with good thermal paste, so no need for a better thermal paste, as for the 212 plus get a Artic Cooling MX-2

What about the ASRock 890 deluxe3 for the mobo? And 4 usb 3.0 slots...wow... But how would I know if it'll fit in my case if my case has 7+1 expansion slots?

Thanks for the PCU, I'll probably go with that.

The reviews for the sunbeam kinda turn me off... Apparently they don't honor their rebate? Which cooler is just better in general?

 

[coldsleep]

What 2fps at the most? Thuban > Denab

They're the same price

I would expect more like 5-10fps. http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/9

It may not always be significant, and at high resolutions it's going to depend more on GPU, but the slower clock speed of the 1055T X6 is going to reduce performance for apps that aren't highly-threaded. Which, honestly, is still most everything these days.

 

[9t9redballoons]

^ Jeez I was really torn between those two, too. I decided to go with the 965. I can always upgrade once the bulldozers come out, and it'll be less trouble for my conscience to go from a x4 to a x8 than a x6 to a x8.

 

[9t9redballoons]

Swap Processor and Mobo for 1055T and Biostar 890FX.

OEM Phenom II X6 1055T - 169.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200471932858&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F*S%3F&GUID=e27840f21280a02653141b94ff83911f&itemid=200471932858&ff4=263602_263622#ht_3218wt_911

Biostar 890FX - 139.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138193

The ASRock is about the same price open-box and has 4 usb 3.0 ports, which will be good if I want this too keep from being obsolete for a while. And it supports crossfire just as well, I think?

 

[coldsleep]

3.4Ghz on a thuban is a simple fsb change away. Looking at this graph it shows that thuban ay 3.2Ghz yields better rates then a 965 at 3.4Ghz

Well, either:

a) you're comparing a $300 CPU to a $150ish CPU

b) or if you're going to overclock the X6, why not overclock the X4?

 

[9t9redballoons]

I've already concluded that the x4 @3.4Ghz will game better than the x6 @2.8Ghz, and while I'd like a hexa-core for multitasking, the world is still adapting to quad-cores and if a quad-core does bottleneck my system then I think it'll be at a load that I really have no business trying to run anyway.

My main issue has always been RAM anyway, so as long as that's good then I think my PC will be fine for my current purposes. For that matter, I'm not planning to OC in the near future anyway, so stock speeds are what matter to me in the present.

 

[WR2]

The ASRock is about the same price open-box

Buying an open box part makes a lot of sense if you're just replacing a broken part. It's not nearly as good a choice if it's your first and only part.
Here is the NewEgg notice about open box parts:
If you purchase an Open-Box product Newegg guarantees only that you will receive the product itself; accessories MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED with Open-Box products. Newegg will not send you a missing accessory, even if the missing accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions.

 

[9t9redballoons]

Buying an open box part makes a lot of sense if you're just replacing a broken part. It's not nearly as good a choice if it's your first and only part.
Here is the NewEgg notice about open box parts:
If you purchase an Open-Box product Newegg guarantees only that you will receive the product itself; accessories MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED with Open-Box products. Newegg will not send you a missing accessory, even if the missing accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions.

Brand new it is, then. $15 more for 4 usb 3.0 ports isn't all that much, with the future in mind. ^_^

 

[9t9redballoons]

Ok well now CM Hyper 212 or Sunbeam CR-CCTF?

 

[WR2]

Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer @ $40 I think. The price of the Hyper 212+ jumped up to $60 ($67 w/shipping) recently.
The rebate on the Sunbeam might be a problem. Lots of comments on NewEgg customers that didnt get the rebate.

 

[9t9redballoons]

Well actually I could get the Hyper 212 off of Amazon for $30, but I'd need to get a thermal compound (arctic cooling for $12 including shipping) with it.

But yeah, a lot of people have had great results with the Sunbeam...and then have gotten pissed because Sunbeam is typical of Asian low-quality service (1. I'm asian so I can say that, and 2. I don't mean that all Asian companies have low-quality service because that's not true at all, only that there are certain Asian companies that are known for offering great products at a low price...but if you happen to get a defective one, you're out of luck because their customer service will be extremely unhelpful and then ignore you if you keep trying to contact them to the point where it's very obvious they're ignoring you.)

Anyway, I've heard of many people having luck by running home to mommy aka Newegg, so I'll probably try that.

I'll get those $15 dollars if I have to fly to China and pry it from their little Communist hands.

 

[WR2]

Was the Amazon deal a retail package? or a used cooler? Make sure its the Hyper 212 Plus and not the plain Hyper 212.

 

[WR2]

Found the $30 Hyper 212+ on Amazon. It's retail pack so it has thermal compound included in the accessory pack.
Only problem is they're showing "Usually ships within 1 to 3 months" status.

 

[9t9redballoons]

Wahh that's a bit long, don't you think?

Anyway, I'll probably go with the Sunbeam. I've heard the Hyper 212+'s thermal compound isn't all that great

 

[dmcfc]

The sunbeam is a good cooler even if you don't get the rebate back it's worth it.(I'm still wainting for mine... sent mine last week...they ask I think 2-3 months send the money back...but I think i'm going t get it..)

 

[9t9redballoons]

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