Help TR3

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I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and
finally got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up
from over spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go
into a narrow cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big
bolder rolls after you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave
you climb up and find hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and
flight a big puma and another monkey.

So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches.
It's hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last area
looks like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to
attack me. LOL!

In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place it?

One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).

Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out. It
looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of the
big log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it. Then
their is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not
understand what that means either.

SR!

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"SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
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>I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and finally
>got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up from over
>spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go into a narrow
>cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big bolder rolls after
>you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave you climb up and find
>hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and flight a big puma and
>another monkey.
>
> So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches. It's
> hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last area looks
> like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to attack me.
> LOL!
>
> In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place
> it?
>
> One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).
>
> Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out. It
> looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of the big
> log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it. Then their
> is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not understand
> what that means either.
>
> SR!

Rope like items and pipes are just features of the jungle and cannot be
interacted with (like vines and creepers). The monkey will have "placed"
your medi-pack wherever he is killed, unless you get to him first in which
case you can grab it immediately

As for the guns, you don't get any extra ones in the jungle level, UNLESS
you get a secret which is literally concealed right at the very start of the
level. The secret contains the shotgun, ammo for which you do pickup during
the course of jungle.

The big cats can be tough, but with a smart series of back-flips and side to
side ones you can pop off a big cat or two with pistols without losing any
health at all - practice makes perfect here.

Stick with it - it is definitely the best TR ever

Kieran

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"Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Don't shoot the monkeys! They are your friends in this level. If you shoot
> one, the rest know about it and get nasty.
>
> Alias
>
> P.S. For a great walkthrough and cheats, see
> http://www.tombraiders.net/stella/
>
> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote
>
>>I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and finally
>>got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up from over
>>spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go into a narrow
>>cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big bolder rolls after
>>you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave you climb up and find
>>hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and flight a big puma and
>>another monkey.
>>
>> So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches.
>> It's hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last area
>> looks like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to attack
>> me. LOL!
>>
>> In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place
>> it?
>>
>> One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).
>>
>> Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out. It
>> looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of the big
>> log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it. Then
>> their is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not
>> understand what that means either.
>>
>> SR!
>
>

Well, be that as it may, but they don't need many pistol shots to knock them
out and I'd rather have the medi kits they keep stealing Oh, and they
count towards your 100% kill count....

Kieran

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"Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Kieran" <kieran.jazzNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news42j02$8mk$1@pump1.york.ac.uk...
>> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:qmL8e.36688$US.24736@news.ono.com...
>>> Don't shoot the monkeys! They are your friends in this level. If you
>>> shoot one, the rest know about it and get nasty.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>> P.S. For a great walkthrough and cheats, see
>>> http://www.tombraiders.net/stella/
>>>
>>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and
>>>>finally got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up
>>>>from over spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go
>>>>into a narrow cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big
>>>>bolder rolls after you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave
>>>>you climb up and find hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and
>>>>flight a big puma and another monkey.
>>>>
>>>> So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches.
>>>> It's hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last
>>>> area looks like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to
>>>> attack me. LOL!
>>>>
>>>> In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).
>>>>
>>>> Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out.
>>>> It looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of
>>>> the big log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it.
>>>> Then their is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not
>>>> understand what that means either.
>>>>
>>>> SR!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, be that as it may, but they don't need many pistol shots to knock
>> them out and I'd rather have the medi kits they keep stealing Oh, and
>> they count towards your 100% kill count....
>>
>> Kieran
>


> They let you have the medipacks if you follow them. They eventually drop
> them.

I didn't know that! Good tip

> The 100% kill count gets you what, a gold star? A free trip to > Iraq to
> do some real killing?

Hopefully not.... without descending into a heated discussion/rant on the
subject, the less said about that the better.... But no, you are right - it
doesn't really get you anything - it's only really good if you are doing
timed runs etc. with people and set targets that you have to meet in any
given level as well as a time in order to make it harder.

Kieran

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Where could I find the key in the house area?

Thx, SR


Kieran wrote:

> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
> news:1166j0847b2ugf2@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and finally
>>got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up from over
>>spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go into a narrow
>>cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big bolder rolls after
>>you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave you climb up and find
>>hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and flight a big puma and
>>another monkey.
>>
>>So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches. It's
>>hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last area looks
>>like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to attack me.
>>LOL!
>>
>>In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place
>>it?
>>
>>One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).
>>
>>Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out. It
>>looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of the big
>>log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it. Then their
>>is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not understand
>>what that means either.
>>
>> SR!
>
>
> Rope like items and pipes are just features of the jungle and cannot be
> interacted with (like vines and creepers). The monkey will have "placed"
> your medi-pack wherever he is killed, unless you get to him first in which
> case you can grab it immediately
>
> As for the guns, you don't get any extra ones in the jungle level, UNLESS
> you get a secret which is literally concealed right at the very start of the
> level. The secret contains the shotgun, ammo for which you do pickup during
> the course of jungle.
>
> The big cats can be tough, but with a smart series of back-flips and side to
> side ones you can pop off a big cat or two with pistols without losing any
> health at all - practice makes perfect here.
>
> Stick with it - it is definitely the best TR ever
>
> Kieran
>
>

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Ok, I won't start off with a spoiler, in case you wish to try it yourself,
but the clue is go into the library and look very carefully at the books and
the fireplace. You might be able to figure out where to go from here and
that will lead you to the race track key. If not, read on beyond the spoiler
space....

Good luck!

Kieran

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To get the race-track key, you need to get into the basement of her house,
and in turn climb into a fish tank down there and pick up the key from the
bottom. The door to the cellar is under the stairs, on the right, in the
arch as you go through to the pool area. Trouble is you will see it is
closed.

Trick is to go into the library, pull out an already protruding book, and
notice the fire gets turned off. Climb up inside the fireplace and you will
notice a room with a switch and a push block. Push the block, and open your
way out into another attic type room. Then go through that room and down
some stairs on the left and pull the lever/switch there that will open the
door right out onto the landing.

Now you have a path from the switch in the room above the fireplace to the
door under the stairs. Now for the hard part - this is a timed run; Pull the
switch in the room above the fireplace and you will see a scene showing you
where the secret door is. Do a roll, and run to the end of the gantry. Jump
up into the attic room, and sprint around and down the stairs to the
landing, and down the main staircase and around the corner. Do a diving roll
into the cellar. From here it should be quite easy.

Kieran

"SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
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> Where could I find the key in the house area?
>
> Thx, SR
>
>
> Kieran wrote:
>
>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166j0847b2ugf2@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>I am playing TR3 on Playstation 2. I am still in the jungle, and finally
>>>got to the big watery area. This is the area after you climb up from
>>>over spikes go all around, climb up more. Shoot the monkey, go into a
>>>narrow cave, shoot another monkey, pull the switch, then a big bolder
>>>rolls after you. Then after you run back into the norrow cave you climb
>>>up and find hapoons and more ammo. Then climb back down and flight a big
>>>puma and another monkey.
>>>
>>>So far in the game I have not found any guns. Only ammo and matches.
>>>It's hard to flight big cats with small guns. By the way that last area
>>>looks like a mosque or Hindu Temple. I was waiting for a snake to attack
>>>me. LOL!
>>>
>>>In one case a monkey took my life pak away. Where did the monkey place
>>>it?
>>>
>>>One bad thing about TR3 is, there is no compass. (N.E.S.W).
>>>
>>>Also, in the game I notice a stange graphic that I can not make out. It
>>>looks like white loop rope hanging. Their is one right on top of the big
>>>log. I try all kinds of grabs & jumps, but I can not grab it. Then
>>>their is another white thing that looks more like pipe. I do not
>>>understand what that means either.
>>>
>>> SR!
>>
>>
>> Rope like items and pipes are just features of the jungle and cannot be
>> interacted with (like vines and creepers). The monkey will have "placed"
>> your medi-pack wherever he is killed, unless you get to him first in
>> which case you can grab it immediately
>>
>> As for the guns, you don't get any extra ones in the jungle level, UNLESS
>> you get a secret which is literally concealed right at the very start of
>> the level. The secret contains the shotgun, ammo for which you do pickup
>> during the course of jungle.
>>
>> The big cats can be tough, but with a smart series of back-flips and side
>> to side ones you can pop off a big cat or two with pistols without losing
>> any health at all - practice makes perfect here.
>>
>> Stick with it - it is definitely the best TR ever
>>
>> Kieran

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"Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>> news:116bmpq45lghi61@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Do you mean that if I don't shoot the monkey, the monkey will help get
>> > my
>> > medi-pak?
>> >
>> > SR
>>
>> No, they will just hang out and leave you alone if you don't get too
>> close.
>> Kill one, though, and the rest will start biting you.
>>
>> Alias
>> >
>
> (Snip)
>
> <Lurker breaks cover...>
>
> Don't ignore the monkeys -- follow where they go and they will walk
> you through the level! (Make the most of them, they'll never be this
> helpful again.)
>
> Steve.
>
> <Relurk>

It's funny - I never used a walkthrough for any part of TR3, but then when I
started reading on here about this monkey business I checked the one out on
Stella's site - in Jungle they are friendly and don't hurt you, but in
Temple ruins they harm you regardless of how you have treated them in
jungle. This is interesting enough (I always shot them as I figured they
were stealing my pickups), but the fact they walk you through the level
isn't mentioned in Stella's guide. Also what happens when you have to go
where monkeys can't go? (rope slides, spike traps etc.) do more monkeys
"pick you up" on the other side?

Kieran

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"Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> halford@sfu.ca (Steve Halford) wrote in message
> news:<3db6c3fc.0504251835.33bace6b@posting.google.com>...
>> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:<Kyp9e.33285$dr.6266@news.ono.com>...
>>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>>> news:116bmpq45lghi61@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> Do you mean that if I don't shoot the monkey, the monkey will help
>>>> get my medi-pak?
>>>>
>>>> SR
>>>
>>> No, they will just hang out and leave you alone if you don't get
>>> too close. Kill one, though, and the rest will start biting you.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>>
>>
>> (Snip)
>>
>> <Lurker breaks cover...>
>>
>> Don't ignore the monkeys -- follow where they go and they will walk
>> you through the level! (Make the most of them, they'll never be this
>> helpful again.)
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>> <Relurk>
>
>
> (Google couldn't retrieve your message, so I'm "replying to myself" )
>
> Kieren wrote
>
>> Also what happens when you have to go
>> where monkeys can't go? (rope slides, spike traps etc.) do more
> monkeys
>> "pick you up" on the other side?
>
>> Kieran"
>
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> It seems to be one monkey per clue -- follow the monkey and it will
> lead you to the next switch, jump, pickup etc. Then you're on your
> own till the next monkey turns up. I can't believe I'm the first
> person to notice it.
>
> Cheers!
> Steve.

In all these years, you're the first I've seen to mention that in
alt.games.tombraider
Thanks!
McG.

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"Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> halford@sfu.ca (Steve Halford) wrote in message
> news:<3db6c3fc.0504251835.33bace6b@posting.google.com>...
>> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:<Kyp9e.33285$dr.6266@news.ono.com>...
>> > "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>> > news:116bmpq45lghi61@corp.supernews.com...
>> > > Do you mean that if I don't shoot the monkey, the monkey will help
>> > > get my
>> > > medi-pak?
>> > >
>> > > SR
>> >
>> > No, they will just hang out and leave you alone if you don't get too
>> > close.
>> > Kill one, though, and the rest will start biting you.
>> >
>> > Alias
>> > >
>>
>> (Snip)
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>> <Lurker breaks cover...>
>>
>> Don't ignore the monkeys -- follow where they go and they will walk
>> you through the level! (Make the most of them, they'll never be this
>> helpful again.)
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>> <Relurk>
>
>
> (Google couldn't retrieve your message, so I'm "replying to myself" )
>
> Kieren wrote
>
>>Also what happens when you have to go
>>where monkeys can't go? (rope slides, spike traps etc.) do more
> monkeys
>>"pick you up" on the other side?
>
>>Kieran"
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> It seems to be one monkey per clue -- follow the monkey and it will
> lead you to the next switch, jump, pickup etc. Then you're on your
> own till the next monkey turns up. I can't believe I'm the first
> person to notice it.
>
> Cheers!
> Steve.

I think you better had believe it - I have never seen that posted up in any
form anywhere else.... I wonder if Jeff Reid knew about that one though
(after recently posting all those TR3 challanges!)?

Kieran

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"Kieran" <kieran.jazzNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Kieran" <kieran.jazzNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news4l4ng$gql$1@pump1.york.ac.uk
>>> "Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:3db6c3fc.0504251835.33bace6b@posting.google.com...
>>>> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:<Kyp9e.33285$dr.6266@news.ono.com>...
>>>>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:116bmpq45lghi61@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>> Do you mean that if I don't shoot the monkey, the monkey will
>>>>>> help get my
>>>>>> medi-pak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SR
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they will just hang out and leave you alone if you don't get
>>>>> too close.
>>>>> Kill one, though, and the rest will start biting you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Snip)
>>>>
>>>> <Lurker breaks cover...>
>>>>
>>>> Don't ignore the monkeys -- follow where they go and they will walk
>>>> you through the level! (Make the most of them, they'll never be
>>>> this helpful again.)
>>>>
>>>> Steve.
>>>>
>>>> <Relurk>
>>>
>>> It's funny - I never used a walkthrough for any part of TR3, but
>>> then when I started reading on here about this monkey business I
>>> checked the one out on Stella's site - in Jungle they are friendly
>>> and don't hurt you, but in Temple ruins they harm you regardless of
>>> how you have treated them in jungle. This is interesting enough (I
>>> always shot them as I figured they were stealing my pickups), but
>>> the fact they walk you through the level isn't mentioned in
>>> Stella's guide. Also what happens when you have to go where monkeys
>>> can't go? (rope slides, spike traps etc.) do more monkeys "pick you
>>> up" on the other side?
>>> Kieran
>>
>> Methinks that the good folk who wrote those walkthrus didn't notice
>> \ McG.
>>
>
> I think you are right there! Though to be fair to those good folks -
> very little has slipped through the net, much too little for me to
> ever pick it up myself lol
>
> Kieran

Well, I sure didn't notice either! Gee That's a good one. I'll
have to try that out pretty soon. See it always makes me wonder what
kind of little goodie like this we all have overlooked. I'm pretty sure
there are things of a similar subtle nature hidden in all the games. We
just have to be sharp enough to pick it out Hm. but that they did
that particular one in TR3 gives me to think they may well have done
some little thing in every section in TR3 and likely TR4.
McG.

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"Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> "Kieran" <kieran.jazzNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<d4me6o$387$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > "Kieran" <kieran.jazzNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news4l4ng$gql$1@pump1.york.ac.uk
>> >> "Steve Halford" <halford@sfu.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:3db6c3fc.0504251835.33bace6b@posting.google.com...
>> >>> "Alias" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:<Kyp9e.33285$dr.6266@news.ono.com>...
>> >>>> "SR" <mercury@mfire.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:116bmpq45lghi61@corp.supernews.com...
>> >>>>> Do you mean that if I don't shoot the monkey, the monkey will help
>> >>>>> get my
>> >>>>> medi-pak?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> SR
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No, they will just hang out and leave you alone if you don't get too
>> >>>> close.
>> >>>> Kill one, though, and the rest will start biting you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Alias
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> (Snip)
>> >>>
>> >>> <Lurker breaks cover...>
>> >>>
>> >>> Don't ignore the monkeys -- follow where they go and they will walk
>> >>> you through the level! (Make the most of them, they'll never be this
>> >>> helpful again.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve.
>> >>>
>> >>> <Relurk>
>> >>
>> >> It's funny - I never used a walkthrough for any part of TR3, but then
>> >> when I started reading on here about this monkey business I checked
>> >> the one out on Stella's site - in Jungle they are friendly and don't
>> >> hurt you, but in Temple ruins they harm you regardless of how you
>> >> have treated them in jungle. This is interesting enough (I always
>> >> shot them as I figured they were stealing my pickups), but the fact
>> >> they walk you through the level isn't mentioned in Stella's guide.
>> >> Also what happens when you have to go where monkeys can't go? (rope
>> >> slides, spike traps etc.) do more monkeys "pick you up" on the other
>> >> side?
>> >> Kieran
>> >
>> > Methinks that the good folk who wrote those walkthrus didn't notice \
>> > McG.
>> >
>>
>> I think you are right there! Though to be fair to those good folks - very
>> little has slipped through the net, much too little for me to ever pick
>> it
>> up myself lol
>>
>> Kieran
>
>
> If you reread Stella's walkthrough, it is sprinkled with "a helpful
> monkey shows you the way" comments, so they as good as had it! (and
> I'm sure the monkeys don't do everything for you -- just the basics)
>
> Steve.

Looks like I need to do some more reading then One thing I am moderately
sure of though, following the monky's hints in terms of direction may make
it easier to miss secrets then if you looked around yourself. Ah well, it's
give and take

Kieran

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> By the way anyone tried completing any of the games/levels (excluding the
> boss levels or those in which it is necessary to shoot to proceed) without
> killing any enemies? Is it even possible? (Think of all the wild jumping and
> sprinting that Lara must do to avoid bullets!) I know it is possible for
> some levels, like the Jungle level.
>
> WY

It is possible for the GREAT WALL section of TR2...but damned hard.

In fact, it's one of the classic TR challenges - do the GREAT WALL
segment without firing a shot, getting all three 'dragons', and in under
10 minutes ( I've never been able to do it without using at least one
small medipack ).

--
rolobeastie@earthlink.net
Swimming in the rivers of light.

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I got to another watery area. This is where you see underwater caves
with trenches. Two levers to pull then you find a block to pull. Then
the water rises on the other side. Then you go into the water fall,
pull a lever, that lever opens up an opening under the water. Then you
follow underwater path. When you get up from the water you fight a
tiger. Then up the latter. Fight a monkey, down some blocks you fight
another tiger. The area is muddy. I see ammo by a tree. But then
their is a gate or door, but I do not know where to get the key. Plus I
can not find any other thing to do in this area because of the mud.

Also, back where the cave watery trenches were, I could not find any
more levers to open up those other underwater gates where that pulling
block was. I feel like I am skipping something. So far I found 3 out
of 6 secrets. BTW is the 6 secrets just in this level or the whole game?

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Right, the 6 secrets are in the level, but some are hard to find, and two
you miss right at the start if you have slid down the long slope without
collecting any secrets (so you have done pretty well). The following is a
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When you climb the ladder up from the pool where you fight a tiger, the key
to the gate is right at the top on the ledge (the ledge opposite to the one
you climb out on from the ladder). For reference this position is before you
go down to the muddy bit to fight the last tiger. The key is called the
"Indra Key" A monkey will try to take it, so either follow it and grab the
key from it when it drops it, or shoot it and pick it up. That door is the
end of the Jungle level and the start of Temple Ruins.

Kieran

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In the dead of night, a faint whisper from SR was heard, at about
04/29/2005 04:40 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
> Kieran wrote:
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> Hi: Oh, great. Each time I load the game that I save, I have a choice
> that says: Story So Far. If I choose that, do I get more of the story
> in video with clues?
>
> How many level is there in the game? And after I finish the whole game,
> I will prabably play it again to beat my time score. But I will have to
> first find those two secrets up on that slope. I think the slope is the
> most difficult part on this level. Are the secrets before the
> horizontal log?
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> And in a lot of those muddy areas, their are structures, but I can not
> seem to get on them.
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> SR!
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The "Story so far" might fill you in, but if you're in the first level
of India, then you don't have a "story so far"! I think that just shows
the collection of FMVs which you have already seen. I don't think
you've seen any yet, right?

Oh, lordy. 14 levels? or was it 20-ish in TR3. I could go look at a
walkthrough and count them, but I'm lazy. Let's just say "lots",
shall we!

Playing through for time is one way to go, but I never liked the timed
puzzles too much, so setting speed records in levels is not much of "my
thing". I always just played through as best I could think to the first
time around. Then I would play it again to get all secrets.

Muddy, the first level? Hardly. Just that part near the end of the
level. And unless you use cheats, you won't be up on top of much during
the first level. They just look accessible.

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You should have explored the "dry" part of the muddy zone near the
beginning. That ammo you see in the tree was just to the left of the
bottom of the long ramp. I'll leave it to you to find a way up into the
tree.

Its actually exactly the same muddy area. You can see the start for the
gate at the end, and vice versa. You can't cross it though... its too
deep, Lara drowns.

And yes, one of the secrets is. The other is after the log, but before
the bottom of the ramp.

---
PW

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Miowarra Tomokatu wrote:
>
> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> world domination, King Key Dee mentioned
>
> >Thanks for informing me, M.T. - appreciated; I'll respect JZ's wishes
> >and keep them "for personal use only", as they say (filed away among
> >my TR Games folders).
> >
> >Oh, and thanks for posting them in the first place, too.
> >
> That's OK. If you keep an eye open over at alt dot binaries dot
> pictures dot nospam dot toons you'll be able to catch the latest
> Zimmerman works as they're released. He does a lot of subjects OTHER
> than Lara, I had to search through over 3000 to find those I posted,
> but his pencil work is astounding!

Over 3000? Wow. Busy boy, that Zimmerman. If he did one a day,
every day, that'd be well over 8 years worth.

-- G

> .
> "When in danger or in doubt,
> Run in circles, scream and shout"
> .
> It's not just a management tool,
> It's a philosophy for living!!
> .

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On 3 May 2005 22:39:01 -0500: Miowarra Tomokatu <not@thistime.net>
posted:

>While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
>world domination, King Key Dee mentioned
>
>>Thanks for informing me, M.T. - appreciated; I'll respect JZ's wishes
>>and keep them "for personal use only", as they say (filed away among
>>my TR Games folders).
>>
>>Oh, and thanks for posting them in the first place, too.
>>
>That's OK. If you keep an eye open over at alt dot binaries dot
>pictures dot nospam dot toons you'll be able to catch the latest
>Zimmerman works as they're released. He does a lot of subjects OTHER
>than Lara, I had to search through over 3000 to find those I posted,
>but his pencil work is astounding!
Definitely.
Shall subscribe to that little NG, thankin' ye kindly sire.
Um, on second thought, all I see on my server (in my headers) is alt
dot binaries dot nospam dot toons - alrighty then, we'll just see if
that one has any double-plus good stuff.
Thanks for offering the lead, MT.
>.
>.
>"When in danger or in doubt,
>Run in circles, scream and shout"
>.
>It's not just a management tool,
>It's a philosophy for living!!
>.


Wishing Well,

Fred