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June 20, 2010 2:09:24 PM

Greetings,
I am new to this forum and am seeking advice. It is time for me to upgrade to a new computer. In the past, I have always shopped for pre-built computer from Dell, but now I want to make a change. After shopping around, I adhered to some online advice that is a more personable experience to build your own computer. Now I want to give it a shot.
I have downloaded some advice guides and instructions, because I have never went that deep into building my own. The deepest I have went is cleaning my computers, installing new video cards, and ram.
I would appreciate any and all advice anyone would bestow upon me as this will be my first experience. What I am trying to do is save money, put together something that fits my current and future needs, and, most importantly, have fun.
I am a graphic artist and web designer. When I do find an online game to play, I beat it to death. As a matter of fact, I can hardly wait for Final Fantasy 14 to be released.
I did a little research for a build that could meet my needs and came across this forum for advice. Below is the details of what I am thinking of putting together. I hope that everything is compatible, but being my first time doing this, I simply just do not know:


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week
BUDGET RANGE: $1000-$1500
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: graphic design, gaming, web design,
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com ; or any other suggestions
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This is the week my funds determine what computer I am going to build. First of all, I have a $1500 budget at max to spend. A couple of issues I am facing include whether or not to buy a newer and bigger monitor or just use my budget to dump on purchasing components. If I went with the new monitor route, I am most likely faced with an I5 processor and a 5770 graphics card. However, if I abandon the monitor until fall or later, I should be able to spec the computer with a nice I7 processor and a 5850 video card. Then again, with the mentioned budget, I am also hoping for any guidance on this exciting venture I will be undertaking this week. I desperately need something to handle the big graphics files I design and, ideally, I would like a beast on the games I plan to play. I also would not mind if there was a way to finagle an awesome build to save any money either. Currently, I am looking at this build, which ditches the monitor. This build will cost $1482 out the door:

PARTS PREFERENCES:
Optical
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive – OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118030
Hard drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136592
Video
SAPPHIRE TOXIC 100282TXSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102881
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders – OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116758
Power
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171036
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119197
Processor
Intel Core i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116368
Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131621
Extras
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103072 (this is the missing fan from the case)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007
2X Fellowes 99090 6 Feet 8 Outlets 1300 joule Mighty Surge Protector Black Color (one for my new computer and for the kids’ computer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812132002

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I went and took a look around some more at Newegg today and am leaning towards dropping the processor and video card, to get these:

Video
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150477
Processor
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
Monitor
ASUS MS Series MS228H Black / Blue 21.5" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LED Backlight LCD monitor 250 cd/m2 10000000 :1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236083

I am so excited about this. Thank you for the time you take into looking into what could be right for me.

Philzee
June 20, 2010 3:48:08 PM

I just noticed that I do not need the Arctic Silver as I already get a tube of that with the psu.
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June 20, 2010 10:00:30 PM

Please help.
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June 21, 2010 2:47:05 AM

live near a microcenter look on top of page store locator great store
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1313/2/
much better power supply on sale till the 22nd at the egg
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
10% off w/ promo code ANTHP10, ends 6/22(limit 5 per customer) 54 bucks after promo code and $15.00 rebate antec trusted brand name
stick with the 5850 video card anything less won't be that good
look for combo's at newegg

your links aren't working
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June 21, 2010 3:02:09 PM

Alright, sorry about the links not working. I am unsure how I screwed that up, but here I will list them again:

These are the specs without the Monitor:

Video
SAPPHIRE TOXIC 100282TXSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cpu Cooler
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power
COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Intel Core i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then I was looking at dropping the video and processor to get these instead, so I could get a monitor:

Video
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor
ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" 2ms Ring stand & Ergo-fit LED backlight HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)
Full HD 1080P
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...

The last couple of issues I am facing are whether or not the case comes with both the side fan and bottom fan. I visited the product page http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id... however it is not clear whether the case does or does not, as it just states those fans are optional. If they do not, I would definately be picking up those fans.

Again, thank you for the help. I do appreciate any and all comments on this build I am considering to buy this week.

Philzee
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June 21, 2010 3:06:23 PM

marco324~

Those are are some good suggestions I am looking into atm, thank you!

Philzee
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June 21, 2010 3:10:31 PM

BTW, do I need a SSD?
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June 21, 2010 8:18:13 PM

not to up on ssd's seems like most peole are using them for an os disk not sure
how beneficial it would be for your uses graphic artist and web designer
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June 21, 2010 9:13:39 PM

Man! Just when I thought I had everything figured out, I get to learn something new. I started dreaming up this build for the budget almost a couple months ago and that was when I had a $1k budget projected to use. Then some things started to click as to what I should be getting for my needs, so I started making proposals on a couple of sites and now was able to come up with this build. I came here, because I felt it was better to get more than one opinion (kind of like two doctors' opinions)> How did you figure out that I needed a cas of 7 instead of 9? Btw, again, thank you for all the wonderful information to consider!
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June 21, 2010 9:19:41 PM

Btw, I will take any more advice you have, I am digging on this!
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June 22, 2010 12:03:00 AM

actually i read it on another post here but can't find it at the moment this is the same brand name $3.00 more
voltage is a little higher if thats a concern 1.5v 1.65v
i can't believe nobody else is helping ? they usually do give good advise
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June 22, 2010 12:07:20 AM

I am starting to narrow it down for the PSU between the Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W you offered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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the CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am still leaning towards the lynnfield i5 quad, but am still leaving myself open to the links you offered I am reading up on.
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June 22, 2010 12:08:55 AM

I had thought that maybe I hould stick with 1.5v, because I read somewhere that the 1.65v might cause some problems with the i5. Unfortunately, I do not have the link to that either.
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June 22, 2010 12:12:02 AM

Yeah, I think I had better stick with the i5 or else I may not be able to replace my old monitor with my current budget.
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June 22, 2010 12:28:59 AM

CORSAIR is a great psu
i offered the Antec for the same money its an all around better Power Supply
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June 22, 2010 10:54:18 AM

Ok, then this is what I have narrowed it down to now:

Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Fan
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor
ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" 2ms Ring stand & Ergo-fit LED backlight HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Extras I need
Fellowes 99090 6 Feet 8 Outlets 1300 joule Mighty Surge Protector Black Color
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RTK-ASM Anti-Static Mat
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech MX 518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 1800 dpi Gaming Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 24, 2010 1:46:59 AM

Best answer selected by philzee.
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July 9, 2010 3:11:53 PM

The build was a real learning experience from day one beginning with shopping for the right components. Once they arrived to my house, the learning continued and I prevailed. I had a lot of fun putting this together and thought I would share the specs and pics of my system.

My system:



This is what Windows rates my computer:



I ran cpu-z on my system and here are the specs from each tab:








Here is what is in my build:

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 95W Quad-Core Processor
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 CPU Cooler
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Memory
ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) Graphics Card
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB Internal Hard Drive
LITE-ON Optical Drive
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
RAZER ABYSSUS High Precision Gaming Mouse

Wow! This was a lot of fun. I guess my future steps will include an i7 processor when the prices drop drastically, some more ram, and another hard drive or two. I might even consider overclocking sometime as well. However, all that won’t be necessary for quite some time as I am thoroughly happy with this build.

Thank you for taking a look,

Philzee
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