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I am somewhat new to building computers, I never really built my own but I have been looking around newegg often and looking what sort of parts would fit more bang for my buck. With a tighter budget I plan on getting a decent gaming rig for around 600$ and I just wanted to know your thoughts on it.

Keep in mind that I'm but a small newb to this but hope to know perfectly what I am looking at, in that case I could be missing a lot of stuff (excluding the external parts). Just tell me what it is I could use and what I could do with out.

Though from the looks of it I think I might need some fans and heatsinks to keep it cool?

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231122

Case: RAIDMAX Hurricane ATX-248WB Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156237

Mobo: MSI 785GT-E63 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130266

Graphics Card: XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150462

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341016

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103471

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136074

Disc Reader: Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827118039

I'd like to add that this is something I want to start off and then upgrade as time goes on to eventually having a pretty high end gaming comp.

*Edit: I've updated what I'm willing to replace, so that averages my rig to around 650$ which isn't too bad. After looking over everything I decided to make this one and when I feel it's time I'll upgrade the mobo and the cpu along with the ram to DDR3. Thanks for all the advice guys.

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Message edited by Skyx10 on 06-21-2010 at 12:18:30 AM
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I do not like the PSU. I suspect the the output ratings are inflated and you cannot tell what the max 12 volt power you can pull out of it is. I suspect the real 12 volt output is around 40 - 45 amps.

That's still enough power to run your system, but the better manufacturers do not put misleading labels on the side of their PSU's.

Case: I'd spend about $20 more and get an Antec 300 case. It will have better cooling.

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For sure get a good name brand PSU such as Corsair,Antec, OCZ, Ultra, Thermaltake, etc., I agree with JSC get the better case you will be satisfied

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Reply to lowjack989

$600.00, I can help you out and I'm a bit of a budget builder lol. :)

dvd burner $19.99 with free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827118039

case and psu $79.98:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.397811

motherboard and cpu $239.98 before rebates:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.397502

hard drive $64.99 with free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433

memory $52.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148304

graphics card $149.99 with free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121363

Your grand total before rebates is:

$607.92

I hope this build will help you make up your mind :)

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So I replaced the PSU and the Case, as you guys suggested, with:

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 W0379RU 500W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153113

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066

Hope that looks better even if it is a bit more, won't do no harm.

$627.92 before anything so it's not too bad.

SHANEMARINES wrote :

Your grand total before rebates is:
$607.92
I hope this build will help you make up your mind



Thanks for the suggestion shanemarines! However, the 2 gigs of ram doesn't suit my needs and the hard drive has a bit too much space for me, I have like 160 gigs on this one and I can barely fill it hahaha.

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Skyx10 wrote :

So I replaced the PSU and the Case, as you guys suggested, with:

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 W0379RU 500W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153113



Negative: avoid the entire TR2 TT line!
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/art [...] view/902/9

Quote :

Thermaltake TR2 RX 750 W is, according to our methodology, a flawed product that must be avoided at all costs. It can’t deliver its labeled wattage at high temperatures, but this is not the worst of it: ripple and noise level are way above the maximum allowed when you pull 80% or more from the unit’s labeled capacity (i.e. 600 W and above), overloading your components (especially electrolytic capacitors from the motherboard and video cards), which can cause your PC to present an erratic behavior (crashes and random resets) and, under extreme conditions, damage components.



Have a look at an 80+ certified unit

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batuchka wrote :

Negative: avoid the entire TR2 TT line!
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/art [...] view/902/9

Quote :

Thermaltake TR2 RX 750 W is, according to our methodology, a flawed product that must be avoided at all costs. It can’t deliver its labeled wattage at high temperatures, but this is not the worst of it: ripple and noise level are way above the maximum allowed when you pull 80% or more from the unit’s labeled capacity (i.e. 600 W and above), overloading your components (especially electrolytic capacitors from the motherboard and video cards), which can cause your PC to present an erratic behavior (crashes and random resets) and, under extreme conditions, damage components.



Have a look at an 80+ certified unit



Thanks for the tip! I switched to a OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341016

Reply to Skyx10

Actually u might as well buy it comboed with a SATA DVDRW - the latter is free hehe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.418942


Message edited by batuchka on 06-20-2010 at 07:30:24 PM
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Skyx10 wrote :

So I replaced the PSU and the Case, as you guys suggested, with:

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 W0379RU 500W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153113

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066

Hope that looks better even if it is a bit more, won't do no harm.

$627.92 before anything so it's not too bad.



Thanks for the suggestion shanemarines! However, the 2 gigs of ram doesn't suit my needs and the hard drive has a bit too much space for me, I have like 160 gigs on this one and I can barely fill it hahaha.



The great thing about RAM is it can be upgraded anytime and you did say you wanted a build which could be upgraded in time if needed right? :o

As for the 1TB that could be switched out, but I don't see the need consider how LOW the PRICE is. :)

Reply to SHANEMARINES

Skyx10 wrote :

I am somewhat new to building computers, I never really built my own but I have been looking around newegg often and looking what sort of parts would fit more bang for my buck. With a tighter budget I plan on getting a decent gaming rig for around 600$ and I just wanted to know your thoughts on it.

Keep in mind that I'm but a small newb to this but hope to know perfectly what I am looking at, in that case I could be missing a lot of stuff (excluding the external parts). Just tell me what it is I could use and what I could do with out.

Though from the looks of it I think I might need some fans and heatsinks to keep it cool?

Memory: WINTEC AMPX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 3AXT6400C5-4096K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827131061

Case: RAIDMAX Hurricane ATX-248WB Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156237

Mobo: MSI 785GT-E63 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130266

Graphics Card: XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150462

PSU: hec X-Power Pro 600 600W Continuous @ 40°C ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817339025

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103471

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136074

Disc Reader: Sony Optiarc Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1678A - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827131061

I'd like to add that this is something I want to start off and then upgrade as time goes on to eventually having a pretty high end gaming comp.



I would like to address your flaws don't take it as I'm bashing your system building skills, but heres your problems:

You have DD2 800Mhz RAM, You have a AMD Phenom Quad with a AM2+ Socket which is old considering AM3 is a lot better is so many ways, You have a 320GB for $50.00 which is kinda expensive considering I just seen a deal on new 1TB for 64.99 with free shipping and its 7200RPM as well and last but not least you have a IDE Sony drive posted which I have no idea why unless your a OEM company and want to be extremely cheap, but lose the quality of SATA.

Sorry I don't want you to waste your money, but of course it is your money. :(

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Message edited by SHANEMARINES on 06-20-2010 at 09:48:07 PM
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SHANEMARINES wrote :

The great thing about RAM is it can be upgraded anytime and you did say you wanted a build which could be upgraded in time if needed right? :o

As for the 1TB that could be switched out, but I don't see the need consider how LOW the PRICE is. :)



Yes, I understand I can upgrade the ram anytime I want but I'd rather start off with 4 gigs, being that I do want a decent gaming computer. I don't think 2 gigs will suffice too well. I want to be able to game and still do other things at the same time, being that nowadays the internet browsers take more and more.

Don't get me wrong, I like you're suggesting parts for me, I just want to build a computer on my own without people giving me a setup. It'll feel like I don't know my computer ya know? Still I thank you again for the suggestions ^^.

Reply to Skyx10

SHANEMARINES wrote :

I would like to address your flaws don't take it as I'm bashing your system building skills, but heres your problems:

You have DD2 800Mhz RAM, You have a AMD Phenom Quad with a AM2+ Socket which is old considering AM3 is a lot better is so many ways, You have a 320GB for $50.00 which is kinda expensive considering I just seen a deal on new 1TB for 64.99 with free shipping and its 7200RPM as well and last but not least you have a IDE Sony drive posted which I have no idea why unless your a OEM company and want to be extremely cheap, but lose the quality of SATA.

Sorry I don't want you to waste your money, but of course it is your money. :(



Remember I'm starting from the bottom and working my way up, I'll eventually have stronger and faster ram, same goes for the processor. I could probably switch out the cpu, I have to look into what I might want first, though I do want an AMD and from the ratings the AM2+ got it seems like a kickbutt cpu. For the hard drive I can look into that more, probably get something around 500gb, but no more. As for the Sony drive I replaced it with something else, but I'll update that list later.

I know all this is low tech but it'll be a lot better than this dell I've had for a while (it's pretty bad) and something with these specs would probably make it implode so I think it has a good start until it's time for upgrades ^^

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