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Anonymous
April 22, 2005 10:24:42 AM

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thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and found
this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods 4400
rex

More about : poly count legend

Anonymous
April 22, 2005 2:32:49 PM

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"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
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> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
> 4400 rex

Thanks :) 
MCG.
Anonymous
April 23, 2005 3:08:23 AM

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"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and found
> this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods 4400
> rex
>

But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might look like
McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a true animation, or
a game play segment before we have to plunk down our hard earned money.
Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the story and game play are good (as
good as AOD, but without the glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^

Inu-Yasha
Feh!!
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Anonymous
April 23, 2005 10:02:30 AM

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"Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and found
>> this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods 4400
>> rex
>>
>
> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might look
> like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a true
> animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down our hard
> earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the story and game
> play are good (as good as AOD, but without the glitches), I'll buy it
> anyway. ^_^
>
> Inu-Yasha
> Feh!!
>
>
what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip Blundell,
VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is thebeginning of a new
era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that new developer Crystal Dynamics
(Project: Snowblind) is relaunching the series with more realism. 'Lara
appears more self-aware and alive than ever before'"
the picture caption reads
"Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
rex
Anonymous
April 23, 2005 1:40:40 PM

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"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message
>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
>>> 4400 rex
>>>
>>
>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>>
>> Inu-Yasha
>> Feh!!
>>
>>
> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
> rex

Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
something to see.
McG.
Anonymous
April 23, 2005 10:56:59 PM

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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>
>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
>>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
>>>> 4400 rex
>>>>
>>>
>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
>>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
>>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
>>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
>>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
>>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
>>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>>>
>>> Inu-Yasha
>>> Feh!!
>>>
>>>
>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
>> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
>> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
>> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
>> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
>> rex
>
> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
> something to see.
> McG.
>
I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
rex
Anonymous
April 23, 2005 11:24:42 PM

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"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
message news:%Twae.105545$cg1.61935@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message
>> news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
>>>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
>>>>> 4400 rex
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
>>>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
>>>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
>>>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
>>>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
>>>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
>>>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>>>>
>>>> Inu-Yasha
>>>> Feh!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the
>>> sexy spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by
>>> Chip Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and
>>> alive than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in
>>> Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries
>>> me. rex
>>
>> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will
>> be something to see.
>> McG.
>>
> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at
> the edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> rex

Right, ALL those things Rex. It will be interesting to see how this
stuff will all work together :)  I really hope they get the visuals
right too.
McG.
Anonymous
April 23, 2005 11:31:42 PM

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Pistol Whipped wrote:
> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from Rex Reynolds was heard,
at
> about 04/23/2005 02:56 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
> > "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> >>"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> >>message
news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> >>
> >>>"Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>>
> <snip>
>
> >>>
> >>>what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the
sexy
> >>>spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
> >>>Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
> >>>thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting
that
> >>>new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
> >>>the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and
alive
> >>>than ever before'" the picture caption reads
> >>>"Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in
Tomb
> >>>Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
> >>>personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries
me.
> >>>rex
> >>
> >>Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that
will be
> >>something to see.
> >>McG.
> >>
> >
> > I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running
toward a
> > firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop
at the
> > edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> > rex
> >
> >
>
> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
>
> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put

> her through!
>
> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see
her
> get plowed down by the boulders!?!
>
> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the
TR4
> water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
>
> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
>
> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
>
> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to
hide
> behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
>
> :) 

Yanno, I could see this going one of two ways:

1. She throws down the gear, grabs you by the shoulders and whispers
hoarsely, "I'm tired of this expedition. Let's just have a little fun
making noise, shall we?" At that point, you know, just by the look in
her eyes, that her intentions aren't exactly innocent. >:-D

2. Or, she could turn around and say, "No, that's not right, this is
how you do it...." And then proceeds to do exactly what you wanted,
the right way. Then she magically appears back at the starting point
where you left off and says, "Now, try that again, and remeber what I
taught you this time." :-D
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 12:24:03 AM

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While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
world domination, McGrandpa mentioned

>>> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will
>>> be something to see.
>>> McG.
>>>
>> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
>> firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at
>> the edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
>> rex
>
>Right, ALL those things Rex. It will be interesting to see how this
>stuff will all work together :)  I really hope they get the visuals
>right too.
>McG.

"Spiders!" she says, "Spiders! I'm not having anytyhing to do with any
sort of spiders. I don't like spiders, I never liked spiders, I'm not
going anywhere near spiders. This is all HER fault, she never liked
me, and did everything she could to keep us apart and you just put up
with it for years and years. We NEVER got enough time alone together
without her busting in and demanding your attention and you, YOU just
rolled over like the little puppy dog you are and ran off at her heels
leaving me alone here with the spiders!! You've got no balls, Mummy's
Boy, otherwise you'd stand up to her and pay more attention TO ME!!!.
I have needs, too, you realise, I'm not just your plaything. I had a
good career before I met you, you bastard. I used to go places and do
things and people respected me for it, but now you want me to go in
there with the spiders"

The technological innovation involved here is that the software also
takes control of the hardware and cranks up both the volume and the
treble boost on your speakers, until a posse of neighbours and
possibly officers of the local constabulary call to discuss the matter
with you. The only solution will be to power down the whole syst4em
and you know what? if you do *that* you'll NEVER be able to play the
game again, because it will all start off right again at the same
point, with the same volume and boost settings.

Yeah, I REALLY want that!!
..
..
"When in danger or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout"
..
It's not just a management tool,
It's a philosophy for living!!
..
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:45:51 AM

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Rex Reynolds wrote:
>
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> > message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> >> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>>
> >>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> >>> message
> >>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
> >>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
> >>>> 4400 rex
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
> >>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
> >>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
> >>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
> >>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
> >>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
> >>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
> >>>
> >>> Inu-Yasha
> >>> Feh!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
> >> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
> >> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
> >> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
> >> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
> >> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
> >> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
> >> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
> >> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
> >> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
> >> rex
> >
> > Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
> > something to see.
> > McG.
> >
> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
> edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> rex

That could be very interesting, if it's done right. People have said
they like to kill Lara in various ways... run Lara off cliffs, etc. etc.
Now, if she says NO (or some other "choice" words) to doing some of those
things, that could be fun and entertaining... depending on how well it's
done.

-- G
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 4:41:52 AM

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In the dead of night, a faint whisper from Rex Reynolds was heard, at
about 04/23/2005 02:56 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>>"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>
>>>"Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>
<snip>

>>>
>>>what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
>>>spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
>>>Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>>>thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>>>new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>>>the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
>>>than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>>>"Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
>>>Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>>>personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
>>>rex
>>
>>Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
>>something to see.
>>McG.
>>
>
> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
> edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> rex
>
>

Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.

She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
her through!

Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see her
get plowed down by the boulders!?!

Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the TR4
water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?

And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
.... while laughing the *whole time*!?!

Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!

<shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to hide
behind and tries not to breath too loudly>

:) 

---
PW
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 10:29:55 AM

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"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:%Twae.105545$cg1.61935@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
>>>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
>>>>> 4400 rex
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
>>>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
>>>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
>>>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
>>>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
>>>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
>>>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>>>>
>>>> Inu-Yasha
>>>> Feh!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
>>> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
>>> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
>>> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
>>> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
>>> rex
>>
>> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
>> something to see.
>> McG.
>>
> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
> edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> rex
>

Oh no!! Next thing you know Lara might be hoping on tables shrieking EEEK!
at the sight of a mouse! That would shoot Tomb Raider in the A... er
....foot.

Inu-Yasha
Feh!!
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:17:37 PM

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"
snip
>> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward
>> a firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop
>> at the edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
>> rex
>>
>>
>
> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
>
> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
> her through!
>
> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see
> her get plowed down by the boulders!?!
>
> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the
> TR4 water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
>
> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
>
> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
>
> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to
> hide behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
>
> :) 
>
> ---
> PW

LOL! I didn't think about that bit :)  Maybe it ought to be called
Laras Revenge rather than Legend ;)  Ooooh she'd have us all served up
proper wouldn't she?
McG.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:32:51 PM

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Pistol Whipped wrote:
>
> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from Rex Reynolds was heard, at
> about 04/23/2005 02:56 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
> > "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> >>"Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> >>message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> >>
> >>>"Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>>
> <snip>
>
> >>>
> >>>what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
> >>>spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
> >>>Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
> >>>thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
> >>>new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
> >>>the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
> >>>than ever before'" the picture caption reads
> >>>"Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
> >>>Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
> >>>personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
> >>>rex
> >>
> >>Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
> >>something to see.
> >>McG.
> >>
> >
> > I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> > firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
> > edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> > rex
> >
> >
>
> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
>
> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
> her through!
>
> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see her
> get plowed down by the boulders!?!
>
> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the TR4
> water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
>
> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
>
> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
>
> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to hide
> behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
>
> :) 
>
> ---
> PW

<looks under desk>
Oh yeah, that'll work. She'll *never* find you there! :) 
<stands up, puts hand to ear>
Did you hear that? ...sounded like a bolt being pulled back.
Well, guess I'll be going now. :) 
<runs out of the room>

-- G
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:37:35 PM

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"Paul E Kiefer Jr" <pkieferjr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1114309902.660300.22000@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
> Pistol Whipped wrote:
>> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from Rex Reynolds was heard, at
>> about 04/23/2005 02:56 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>>
>>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>> message
> news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>>>
>>>>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the
>>>>> sexy spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by
>>>>> Chip Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>>>>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting
>>>>> that new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is
>>>>> relaunching the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more
>>>>> self-aware and alive than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>>>>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in
>>>>> Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>>>>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries
>>>>> me. rex
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that
>>>> will be something to see.
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running
>>> toward a firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she
>>> now stop at the edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
>>> rex
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
>>
>> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
>
>> her through!
>>
>> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
>> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see
>> her get plowed down by the boulders!?!
>>
>> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the
>> TR4 water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
>>
>> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
>> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
>> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
>>
>> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
>>
>> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to
>> hide behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
>>
>> :) 
>
> Yanno, I could see this going one of two ways:
>
> 1. She throws down the gear, grabs you by the shoulders and whispers
> hoarsely, "I'm tired of this expedition. Let's just have a little fun
> making noise, shall we?" At that point, you know, just by the look in
> her eyes, that her intentions aren't exactly innocent. >:-D
>
> 2. Or, she could turn around and say, "No, that's not right, this is
> how you do it...." And then proceeds to do exactly what you wanted,
> the right way. Then she magically appears back at the starting point
> where you left off and says, "Now, try that again, and remeber what I
> taught you this time." :-D

That sounds realistic. Where's the fun in that? ;)  Hm. Oh, now, the
Training Level, Laras Home. This could be great. Like all the times
I'd had her swan dive off the roof of her own mansion? No forget that,
too morbid. You could have like a mode where Lara actually turns and
seems to pay attention to the User, speaks with, etc. Have a list of
topics to choose from, Lara answers the questions, shows the moves, etc.
voice response? Maybe too advanced to play with in a game though. Hm.
/me needs more coffee
McG.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:41:29 PM

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Inu-Yasha wrote:
>
> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:%Twae.105545$cg1.61935@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> >> message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> >>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
> >>>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
> >>>>> 4400 rex
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
> >>>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
> >>>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
> >>>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
> >>>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
> >>>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
> >>>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
> >>>>
> >>>> Inu-Yasha
> >>>> Feh!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the sexy
> >>> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
> >>> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
> >>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
> >>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
> >>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
> >>> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
> >>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in Tomb
> >>> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
> >>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
> >>> rex
> >>
> >> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will be
> >> something to see.
> >> McG.
> >>
> > I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
> > firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at the
> > edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
> > rex
> >
>
> Oh no!! Next thing you know Lara might be hoping on tables shrieking EEEK!
> at the sight of a mouse! That would shoot Tomb Raider in the A... er
> ...foot.
>
> Inu-Yasha
> Feh!!

That would be good! Flesh-eating beetles, Seth-enhanced deadly poisonous
scorpions, mutated spider-men shooting fire balls... all perfectly OK,
just so long as there aren't any ordinary mice. :)  heh heh heh.

Well... that's OK. *Everyone* has weaknesses, superheros have some
of the more interesting ones. :) 

-- G
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:43:51 PM

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"Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:D 1Hae.21443$5f.19322@tornado.tampabay.rr.com
> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
> message
> news:%Twae.105545$cg1.61935@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42)
>>>>>> and found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared
>>>>>> to aods 4400 rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her
>>>>> new festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still
>>>>> might look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get
>>>>> to see a true animation, or a game play segment before we have to
>>>>> plunk down our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan
>>>>> thaqt if the story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but
>>>>> without the glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>>>>>
>>>>> Inu-Yasha
>>>>> Feh!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the
>>>> sexy spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by
>>>> Chip Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>>>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>>>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>>>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and
>>>> alive than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>>>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in
>>>> Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>>>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries
>>>> me. rex
>>>
>>> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that
>>> will be something to see.
>>> McG.
>>>
>> I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward
>> a firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop
>> at the edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
>> rex
>>
>
> Oh no!! Next thing you know Lara might be hoping on tables shrieking
> EEEK! at the sight of a mouse! That would shoot Tomb Raider in the
> A... er ...foot.
>
> Inu-Yasha
> Feh!!

In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says "No"
quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones. So that
could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so possibilities,
and they could use any, all or none of the ones we come up with :) 
McG.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 2:50:25 PM

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"Gary Mitchell"
snip
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
>>
>> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
>> her through!
>>
>> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
>> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see
>> her get plowed down by the boulders!?!
>>
>> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the
>> TR4 water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
>>
>> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
>> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
>> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
>>
>> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
>>
>> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to
>> hide behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
>>
>> :) 
>>
>> ---
>> PW
>
> <looks under desk>
> Oh yeah, that'll work. She'll *never* find you there! :) 
> <stands up, puts hand to ear>
> Did you hear that? ...sounded like a bolt being pulled back.
> Well, guess I'll be going now. :) 
> <runs out of the room>
>
> -- G

Chicken! :)  Where's yer sense of adventure Gary? Hm? Heh! Stick
around and watch the fireworks... or...like the rest of us... be very
careful when clicking on that TOMBRAIDER icon! (wonders what kinda
dues Gary has to pay, yuk yuk!)
McG.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 11:16:02 PM

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While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
world domination, McGrandpa mentioned

>In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says "No"
>quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones. So that
>could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so possibilities,
>and they could use any, all or none of the ones we come up with :) 

Also found in TR2 Training Level, if you try to use the lock/keypad
next to Lara's Bed. A VERY clear and emphatic "NO". Does it unlock the
(ahem..) toy cabinet?
..
..
"When in danger or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout"
..
It's not just a management tool,
It's a philosophy for living!!
..
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 3:10:31 AM

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"Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426B7818.60002CE6@ix.nospam.netcom.com...
> Inu-Yasha wrote:
>>
>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:%Twae.105545$cg1.61935@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >
>> > "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:sKoae.17907$h6.2417@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> >> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> >> message news:Wxlae.103799$cg1.27506@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>> >>> "Inu-Yasha" <tjardine@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:Htfae.16105$_t3.15578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Rex Reynolds" <r.c.reynolds@REMOVETHISworldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> >>>> message
>> >>>> news:KM0ae.623837$w62.259949@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >>>>> thumbing through the new issue of 'pc gamer'(june 2005, pg 42) and
>> >>>>> found this bit. the new Lara will have 9800 polys compared to aods
>> >>>>> 4400 rex
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But did it say if the poly count was only Lara, or includes her new
>> >>>> festooned items?? If it is all of her inventory, she still might
>> >>>> look like McG has suggested. I'm hoping that we will get to see a
>> >>>> true animation, or a game play segment before we have to plunk down
>> >>>> our hard earned money. Though I admit I'm such a fan thaqt if the
>> >>>> story and game play are good (as good as AOD, but without the
>> >>>> glitches), I'll buy it anyway. ^_^
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Inu-Yasha
>> >>>> Feh!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> what they said was"Whats E3 without a hot model dressed up as the
>> >>> sexy
>> >>> spelunker? Inside Eido's booth, you're personally greeted by Chip
>> >>> Blundell, VP of brand marketing. 'What you're seeing today is
>> >>> thebeginning of a new era for Lara Croft,' he declares, noting that
>> >>> new developer Crystal Dynamics (Project: Snowblind) is relaunching
>> >>> the series with more realism. 'Lara appears more self-aware and alive
>> >>> than ever before'" the picture caption reads
>> >>> "Vital Fact: Lara's new model sports 9,800 polys (versus 4,400 in
>> >>> Tomb
>> >>> Raider: Angel of Darkness)."
>> >>> personally that line about self-awareness and alive kinda worries me.
>> >>> rex
>> >>
>> >> Interesting. Alive is one thing. The self awareness now, that will
>> >> be
>> >> something to see.
>> >> McG.
>> >>
>> > I mean in taod we have her snagging ladders(unasked), running toward a
>> > firefight, and balking about running off ledges. will she now stop at
>> > the
>> > edge and say NO, refuse to go into dark rooms etc.
>> > rex
>> >
>>
>> Oh no!! Next thing you know Lara might be hoping on tables shrieking
>> EEEK!
>> at the sight of a mouse! That would shoot Tomb Raider in the A... er
>> ...foot.
>>
>> Inu-Yasha
>> Feh!!
>
> That would be good! Flesh-eating beetles, Seth-enhanced deadly poisonous
> scorpions, mutated spider-men shooting fire balls... all perfectly OK,
> just so long as there aren't any ordinary mice. :)  heh heh heh.
>
> Well... that's OK. *Everyone* has weaknesses, superheros have some
> of the more interesting ones. :) 
>
> -- G
scarab beatles, why is it always scarab beatles.(to borrow from 'indy')
rex
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 10:30:33 AM

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McGrandpa wrote:
>
> "Gary Mitchell"
> snip
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Self-aware?!?! Eeeeek.
> >>
> >> She's going to get *even* with me for all those horrible things I put
> >> her through!
> >>
> >> Like the time I got so fed up with *her* inability to negotiate the
> >> Great Wall run of TR2 and loaded over and over and over just to see
> >> her get plowed down by the boulders!?!
> >>
> >> Or like the time I got tired of *her* complete inability to swim the
> >> TR4 water maze and would repeatedly just give up and let her drown?!?
> >>
> >> And what about the time I found out that using the incorrect cheats
> >> would blow her up, so I spent at least fifteen minutes doing it ...
> >> ... while laughing the *whole time*!?!
> >>
> >> Oh, lordy, am *I* in trouble!
> >>
> >> <shuts off office light, cowers under desk, pulls chair in close to
> >> hide behind and tries not to breath too loudly>
> >>
> >> :) 
> >>
> >> ---
> >> PW
> >
> > <looks under desk>
> > Oh yeah, that'll work. She'll *never* find you there! :) 
> > <stands up, puts hand to ear>
> > Did you hear that? ...sounded like a bolt being pulled back.
> > Well, guess I'll be going now. :) 
> > <runs out of the room>
> >
> > -- G
>
> Chicken! :)  Where's yer sense of adventure Gary? Hm? Heh! Stick
> around and watch the fireworks...

I said I was running out of the *room*. ...don't want to have to
clean off those pesky hard to remove blood stains, you understand. ;) 

And what do you mean 'sense of adventure'? This doesn't sound
exactly like it'll be a stand-up fight. :) 

BTW, if Lara were going to get even with a game player who got a
kick out of killing her many different and creative ways, (you
know who you are), what do you think she'd do? Hmmm... <rubs
chin>

> or...like the rest of us... be very
> careful when clicking on that TOMBRAIDER icon! (wonders what kinda
> dues Gary has to pay, yuk yuk!)
> McG.

Naw, no problem here. Unlike some, who'll remain nameless, I
don't like to see Lara get squished, toasted, chewed... impaled
I think is the worst. In fact, I don't even like it when I
*have* to use medi packs. So, we're on good terms. ;) 

-- G
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 2:35:28 PM

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"Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:mgdo61pftjvj0lf4jocgv9c3noc4f9soc3@4ax.com
> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>
>> In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says
>> "No" quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones.
>> So that could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so
>> possibilities, and they could use any, all or none of the ones we
>> come up with :) 
>
> Also found in TR2 Training Level, if you try to use the lock/keypad
> next to Lara's Bed. A VERY clear and emphatic "NO". Does it unlock the
> (ahem..) toy cabinet?
> .
> .
> "When in danger or in doubt,
> Run in circles, scream and shout"
> .
> It's not just a management tool,
> It's a philosophy for living!!
> .

THAT lock is a part of the game play later on :)  By the time you finish
the game you will see.
McG.
Anonymous
April 26, 2005 3:48:02 AM

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While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
world domination, McGrandpa mentioned

>"Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
>news:mgdo61pftjvj0lf4jocgv9c3noc4f9soc3@4ax.com
>> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
>> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>>
>>> In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says
>>> "No" quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones.
>>> So that could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so
>>> possibilities, and they could use any, all or none of the ones we
>>> come up with :) 
>>
>> Also found in TR2 Training Level, if you try to use the lock/keypad
>> next to Lara's Bed. A VERY clear and emphatic "NO". Does it unlock the
>> (ahem..) toy cabinet?
>> .
>> .
>> "When in danger or in doubt,
>> Run in circles, scream and shout"
>> .
>> It's not just a management tool,
>> It's a philosophy for living!!
>> .
>
>THAT lock is a part of the game play later on :)  By the time you finish
>the game you will see.
>McG.
>
I HAVE heard rumors of an armed invasion of the Manor after completion
of the overseas levels, yes. (Cough!)

I still haven't been able to reach the Treasure Room in time after
throwing the switch in the Secret Room of the maze. Running jumps
everywhere to save time, too.

(Tomo wonders whether this is actually a sacred space for religious
rituals - it's VERY like some others I've seen. Is there any canon
advice on Lara's religious beliefs? Is she known to be a practising
Wiccan or other form of pagan? Or was the space something the late
Lord Croft had installed?)
..
..
"When in danger or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout"
..
It's not just a management tool,
It's a philosophy for living!!
..
Anonymous
April 26, 2005 1:53:38 PM

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Miowarra Tomokatu wrote:
>
> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>
> >"Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
> >news:mgdo61pftjvj0lf4jocgv9c3noc4f9soc3@4ax.com
> >> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> >> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
> >>
> >>> In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says
> >>> "No" quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones.
> >>> So that could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so
> >>> possibilities, and they could use any, all or none of the ones we
> >>> come up with :) 
> >>
> >> Also found in TR2 Training Level, if you try to use the lock/keypad
> >> next to Lara's Bed. A VERY clear and emphatic "NO". Does it unlock the
> >> (ahem..) toy cabinet?
> >> .
> >> .
> >> "When in danger or in doubt,
> >> Run in circles, scream and shout"
> >> .
> >> It's not just a management tool,
> >> It's a philosophy for living!!
> >> .
> >
> >THAT lock is a part of the game play later on :)  By the time you finish
> >the game you will see.
> >McG.
> >
> I HAVE heard rumors of an armed invasion of the Manor after completion
> of the overseas levels, yes. (Cough!)
>
> I still haven't been able to reach the Treasure Room in time after
> throwing the switch in the Secret Room of the maze. Running jumps
> everywhere to save time, too.
>
> (Tomo wonders whether this is actually a sacred space for religious
> rituals - it's VERY like some others I've seen. Is there any canon
> advice on Lara's religious beliefs? Is she known to be a practising
> Wiccan or other form of pagan? Or was the space something the late
> Lord Croft had installed?)

I'd be surprised if you'll ever hear anything specific on that, at
least officially. Eidos has nothing to gain and something to lose by
saying Lara has this or that religion. Remember, TR is sold all over
the world. No matter what, some segment of their customer base would
be alienated. On the other hand, she does have a priest (TRC). So,
I could be wrong.

However, I suppose it might be safe to say Lara subscribes to certain
ancient Egyptian religions. She's already had first hand experience
with Seth! :)  Although, perhaps that wouldn't qualify as a "belief"
since those gods are real in her world.

-- G

> .
> "When in danger or in doubt,
> Run in circles, scream and shout"
> .
> It's not just a management tool,
> It's a philosophy for living!!
> .
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 1:08:30 AM

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"Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
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> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>
>> "Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
>> news:mgdo61pftjvj0lf4jocgv9c3noc4f9soc3@4ax.com
>>> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
>>> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>>>
>>>> In TR1 when you try to Use a key or item that doesn't fit, she says
>>>> "No" quite plainly. I think that was left out of the later ones.
>>>> So that could be used and expanded on. There's a zillion or so
>>>> possibilities, and they could use any, all or none of the ones we
>>>> come up with :) 
>>>
>>> Also found in TR2 Training Level, if you try to use the lock/keypad
>>> next to Lara's Bed. A VERY clear and emphatic "NO". Does it unlock
>>> the (ahem..) toy cabinet?
>>> .
>>> .
>>> "When in danger or in doubt,
>>> Run in circles, scream and shout"
>>> .
>>> It's not just a management tool,
>>> It's a philosophy for living!!
>>> .
>>
>> THAT lock is a part of the game play later on :)  By the time you
>> finish the game you will see.
>> McG.
>>
> I HAVE heard rumors of an armed invasion of the Manor after completion
> of the overseas levels, yes. (Cough!)
>
> I still haven't been able to reach the Treasure Room in time after
> throwing the switch in the Secret Room of the maze. Running jumps
> everywhere to save time, too.
>
> (Tomo wonders whether this is actually a sacred space for religious
> rituals - it's VERY like some others I've seen. Is there any canon
> advice on Lara's religious beliefs? Is she known to be a practising
> Wiccan or other form of pagan? Or was the space something the late
> Lord Croft had installed?)
> .
Actually, I think Lara had the whole place customized :)  Her parents
have disowned their rebellious daughter, and word is she was bequeathed
the estate by an auntie. Now, do get this part: GETTING THE RACETRACK
KEY IS DOABLE! Hey, even *I've* done it! No, you can't cheat to get
it, ya have to get it the hard way Tomo. However, the sense of
accomplishment for one such as me is enormous. I've done it two or
three times, right in a row. So, you get your path worked out
correctly, then you get to practise that run dozens of times to iron out
all the rough edges so that it's a smooth run. You will actually have a
few seconds left over to have Lara stand there and just gloat a bit till
the door closes behind her :)  Once IN the library, you still have to
find your way into the aquarium :)  Once you have the key, you then have
to get back out. Methinks this was actually the best puzzle of the
entire game. Too bad you can't save the game, but you can still do
screenshots. Honestly, me getting into the library was a thrill all by
itself!
McG.
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 3:59:05 AM

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While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
world domination, McGrandpa mentioned

> Now, do get this part: GETTING THE RACETRACK
>KEY IS DOABLE! Hey, even *I've* done it! No, you can't cheat to get
>it, ya have to get it the hard way Tomo. However, the sense of
>accomplishment for one such as me is enormous. I've done it two or
>three times, right in a row. So, you get your path worked out
>correctly, then you get to practise that run dozens of times to iron out
>all the rough edges so that it's a smooth run. You will actually have a
>few seconds left over to have Lara stand there and just gloat a bit till
>the door closes behind her :)  Once IN the library, you still have to
>find your way into the aquarium :)  Once you have the key, you then have
>to get back out. Methinks this was actually the best puzzle of the
>entire game. Too bad you can't save the game, but you can still do
>screenshots. Honestly, me getting into the library was a thrill all by
>itself!
>McG.

And is it doable at any time? or does it have to wait until after the
end of the game, like the bedside lock?
..
..
"When in danger or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout"
..
It's not just a management tool,
It's a philosophy for living!!
..
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 2:26:24 PM

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"Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
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> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>
>> Now, do get this part: GETTING THE RACETRACK
>> KEY IS DOABLE! Hey, even *I've* done it! No, you can't cheat to get
>> it, ya have to get it the hard way Tomo. However, the sense of
>> accomplishment for one such as me is enormous. I've done it two or
>> three times, right in a row. So, you get your path worked out
>> correctly, then you get to practise that run dozens of times to iron
>> out all the rough edges so that it's a smooth run. You will
>> actually have a few seconds left over to have Lara stand there and
>> just gloat a bit till the door closes behind her :)  Once IN the
>> library, you still have to find your way into the aquarium :)  Once
>> you have the key, you then have to get back out. Methinks this was
>> actually the best puzzle of the entire game. Too bad you can't save
>> the game, but you can still do screenshots. Honestly, me getting
>> into the library was a thrill all by itself!
>> McG.
>
> And is it doable at any time? or does it have to wait until after the
> end of the game, like the bedside lock?
> .
> .
> "When in danger or in doubt,
> Run in circles, scream and shout"
> .
> It's not just a management tool,
> It's a philosophy for living!!
> .

Completely seperate! You can do the racetrack anytime you want. The
bedside lock has to wait :) 
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 2:49:27 PM

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McGrandpa wrote:
>
> "Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
> news:bd6u61dprkd2ik29ig8p2bpqtm21d8n42g@4ax.com
> > While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
> > world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
> >
> >> Now, do get this part: GETTING THE RACETRACK
> >> KEY IS DOABLE! Hey, even *I've* done it! No, you can't cheat to get
> >> it, ya have to get it the hard way Tomo. However, the sense of
> >> accomplishment for one such as me is enormous. I've done it two or
> >> three times, right in a row. So, you get your path worked out
> >> correctly, then you get to practise that run dozens of times to iron
> >> out all the rough edges so that it's a smooth run. You will
> >> actually have a few seconds left over to have Lara stand there and
> >> just gloat a bit till the door closes behind her :)  Once IN the
> >> library, you still have to find your way into the aquarium :)  Once
> >> you have the key, you then have to get back out. Methinks this was
> >> actually the best puzzle of the entire game. Too bad you can't save
> >> the game, but you can still do screenshots. Honestly, me getting
> >> into the library was a thrill all by itself!
> >> McG.
> >
> > And is it doable at any time? or does it have to wait until after the
> > end of the game, like the bedside lock?
> > .
> > .
> > "When in danger or in doubt,
> > Run in circles, scream and shout"
> > .
> > It's not just a management tool,
> > It's a philosophy for living!!
> > .
>
> Completely seperate! You can do the racetrack anytime you want. The
> bedside lock has to wait :) 

Actually, the bedroom lock deal is part of another level. You can
go fool around in Lara's house--that's the training level. Getting
to the part where that lock works is the ending level. Sure, it
*looks* like you're in the training level again, but no.

I haven't tried this, but it might interesting to see if all of the
training level is available (again) in the ending level. Except
instead of Jeeves (Whinston) following you around, you'll have those
thugs instead. :) 

-- G
Anonymous
April 28, 2005 3:13:00 AM

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"Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>> "Miowarra Tomokatu" <not@thistime.net> wrote in message
>> news:bd6u61dprkd2ik29ig8p2bpqtm21d8n42g@4ax.com
>>> While taking a short break from the daily grind of enslavement and
>>> world domination, McGrandpa mentioned
>>>
>>>> Now, do get this part: GETTING THE RACETRACK
>>>> KEY IS DOABLE! Hey, even *I've* done it! No, you can't cheat to
>>>> get it, ya have to get it the hard way Tomo. However, the sense of
>>>> accomplishment for one such as me is enormous. I've done it two or
>>>> three times, right in a row. So, you get your path worked out
>>>> correctly, then you get to practise that run dozens of times to
>>>> iron out all the rough edges so that it's a smooth run. You will
>>>> actually have a few seconds left over to have Lara stand there and
>>>> just gloat a bit till the door closes behind her :)  Once IN the
>>>> library, you still have to find your way into the aquarium :)  Once
>>>> you have the key, you then have to get back out. Methinks this was
>>>> actually the best puzzle of the entire game. Too bad you can't
>>>> save the game, but you can still do screenshots. Honestly, me
>>>> getting into the library was a thrill all by itself!
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> And is it doable at any time? or does it have to wait until after
>>> the end of the game, like the bedside lock?
>>> .
>>> .
>>> "When in danger or in doubt,
>>> Run in circles, scream and shout"
>>> .
>>> It's not just a management tool,
>>> It's a philosophy for living!!
>>> .
>>
>> Completely seperate! You can do the racetrack anytime you want.
>> The bedside lock has to wait :) 
>
> Actually, the bedroom lock deal is part of another level. You can
> go fool around in Lara's house--that's the training level. Getting
> to the part where that lock works is the ending level. Sure, it
> *looks* like you're in the training level again, but no.
>
> I haven't tried this, but it might interesting to see if all of the
> training level is available (again) in the ending level. Except
> instead of Jeeves (Whinston) following you around, you'll have those
> thugs instead. :) 
>
> -- G

I got ALL the baddies, didn't see Winston, and go on and try to get into
the library now with Lara in her blue bathrobe. I'll have to try that
again sometime, but...well, just go see what's still there or not now :) 
I tried it from a gamesave from right before you go into the room to
trigger the end sequence.
McG.