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March 18, 2011 1:08:18 AM

Hi,

Building a new i7 2600 and I'm having trouble working out what are the better boards at the moment with the sandy bridge. I'm interested in the Gigabyte or Asus range although can be whatever brand. Any suggestions? What is popular choice with consumers what are a few of the best boards at the moment for value and performance? Thanks!
a c 222 V Motherboard
March 18, 2011 1:24:23 AM

Are you planning on creating just a single graphics card system or a CrossFireX/SLI system now or in the future?
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a c 104 V Motherboard
March 18, 2011 1:25:19 AM

Consider the i7-2600K - and wait until May or June 2011 until there is a wide choice of reliable Sandy Bridge motherboards.

The Intel Z68 Express Chipset is slated for release mid-May 2011. Definitely look into this before you pick a motherboard.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlo...
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March 18, 2011 6:32:03 AM

ko888 said:
Are you planning on creating just a single graphics card system or a CrossFireX/SLI system now or in the future?


No Crossfire/SLI
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March 18, 2011 6:37:26 AM

Ubrales said:
Consider the i7-2600K - and wait until May or June 2011 until there is a wide choice of reliable Sandy Bridge motherboards.

The Intel Z68 Express Chipset is slated for release mid-May 2011. Definitely look into this before you pick a motherboard.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlo...


I have thought about 2600k though I don't have plans to overclock the price difference for the 2600K is around fifty dollars or more in Australia at the moment :p 

Thanks for the link I should hold off a few months then it's not an urgent build thanks for the tip. Are there any SB motherboards out at the moment that people are recommending?
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a c 104 V Motherboard
March 18, 2011 11:15:52 AM

inwd said:
I have thought about 2600k though I don't have plans to overclock the price difference for the 2600K is around fifty dollars or more in Australia at the moment :p 

Thanks for the link I should hold off a few months then it's not an urgent build thanks for the tip. Are there any SB motherboards out at the moment that people are recommending?

Too early to call. Not enough data on motherboards to determine the stars and super performers. Let the bugs be worked out first. Then read reviews, recommendations, pricing, availability, etc., and make your decision. This would be a conservative approach. (I am a risk taker, but with other people's money! LOL).

Regarding overclocking - it will be just a matter of time (when, not if) before you get the urge to start tweaking things. It is a lot of fun, and very rewarding in terms of gaining knowledge!
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a b V Motherboard
March 18, 2011 2:15:23 PM

Yes, if I were building a Sandy Bridge setup now, I would likely go with the ASUS deluxe or Pro mobo. They are available now after the Intel chip fiasco. Maximum PC also shows the Deluxe as its' motherboard of choice for SB. They seem to be slowly working out the bugs that were present in the SB mobos and you should be happy with one of theses. I really like the new BIOS in ASUS SB boards...easy to work with. If you do decide to OC, I would suggest that the ASUS has that well covered.
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March 19, 2011 2:15:03 AM

Cool thanks I was thinking the ASUS pro
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March 19, 2011 4:13:48 PM

I went with the ASUS SaberTooth because it was available, but I could have just as easily bought the Pro / EVO or Deluxe if they were available at the time I ordered.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 19, 2011 5:33:40 PM

From the get-go I've recommended the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE for most enthusiasts. I do NOT recommend either the H67 or Z68 'IF' using a Discrete GPU 1 or more; you'll loose physical RAM and share the PCIe bandwidth with the Discrete GPU.

Clearly, the H67 + 'K' CPU is a total waste; No OC and limited Turbo-boost. The H67 is fine for non-K CPUs and onboard VGA. The Z68 allows K OC, but again you're faced with the sharing as described above.

Therefore, Discrete GPU + K SB CPU leaves the P67. Next, it comes down to 'Options' and 'Needs' that you haven't listed.

SIMPLE CONFIG -> SABERTOOTH P67 or P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE or P8P67-M PRO
SIMPLE CONFIG / BT -> P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE

PCIe SSD -> P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE
RAID 0 SSD / PCIe SSD -> P8P67 DELUXE
LAN Party - > P8P67 DELUXE

To simplify, if the goal is a single GPU, SSD + HDD + ODD, OC or essentially as a basic but fast Desktop and I didn't need all the bells and whistles {BT/RAID 0 SSD/Dual LAN/CF or SLI} then I'd choose the P8P67-M PRO http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=iT2FJPCMOGBHClu4

ASUS:
Maximus IV Extreme {2~3WAY, x8...x8, Marvell 9182 [ASUS typo? 9128] RAID 0/1, Dual Intel LAN, BT}
P8P67 WS Revolution {2~3WAY & 4-WAY Quadro only, x8...x8, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, Dual Intel LAN}

P8P67 DELUXE {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN, BT, eSATA, USB3 Ft Panel}

P8P67 EVO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN}
P8P67 PRO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, BT}

SABERTOOTH P67 {2-WAY, x8/x8, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA}
P8P67 LE {cheap}
P8P67 {cheap}
P8P67-M {cheap}
P8P67-M PRO {cheap}

edit: Building Chart:
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March 20, 2011 9:26:56 AM

Cool thanks for the info. It's kind of a low budget simple build these are the specs. I don't plan on overclocking anything really :0 build is replacing a quad core that I use allot of multitasking adobe programs for graphic design etc and I want to play a few of the latest games :p 

i7 2600

Corsair dominator 1600c9 8GB kit 2x4GB DDR3

MSI\Gigabyte GeForce GTX560 Ti 1GB

Corsair 120GB SSD, 2.5" Force Series

Antec True power 750Watt

Fractal Design RC3
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 20, 2011 3:49:38 PM

Then leaving some expandability open the P8P67-M PRO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 covered, eSATA}. It's fine for what you described. I would look at the G.SKILL Ripjaws X:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

P8P67-M PRO - http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=iT2FJPCMOGBHClu4&...

Nice Article -> http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

Don't get me wrong, I love Corsair but their current lines for Sandy Bridge aren't in keeping what they should be. In any case the Sandy Bridge is better suited for 1.5v DDR3. Corsair's Vengeance offers 1.5v DDR3.
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a b V Motherboard
March 20, 2011 4:23:18 PM

Ubrales said:
Too early to call. Not enough data on motherboards to determine the stars and super performers. Let the bugs be worked out first. Then read reviews, recommendations, pricing, availability, etc., and make your decision. This would be a conservative approach. (I am a risk taker, but with other people's money! LOL).


I gotta agree with Ubarles. There are so few Rev 3.0 SB MBs out there that anyone that buys one now is basically an early-adopter.

Here's some reviews of the Asus P8P67 LE ATX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Only 3 stars? Some suggest that it is somewhat buggy.

Here's some reviews of the Asus P8P67 base model ATX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3 stars? Again, some are saying it's buggy.

I'm planning to buy the Asus P8P67 Pro for sure -- the versions that came out prior to the recall got rave reviews, but there just seem to be a lot of bugs to work out. In other words -- Asus is a good mfr; they know what they're doing. There are just not enough out there to have gotten the bugs knocked out of them yet.

The Asus P8P67 Pro -- likely to be the most popular P67 boards -- hasn't been in wide supply yet at all. Way to early to pull the trigger.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 20, 2011 5:00:54 PM

The ONLY reason I mentioned ASUS P8P67M-Pro is because of your statement of "low budget simple build"...

The P8P67M-Pro is in my {Cheap} list because 'I' don't love m/u/ATX MOBOs, but unlike the P8P67 LE, the P8P67M-Pro got good reviews http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/m... and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As far as early adopters, no argument there - I'd wait until supplies are up and the Guinea Pigs report back. However, prior to the 'B3' there were clear impressions of most of the P67 MOBOs which shouldn't change much it at all.

Good Luck!
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March 20, 2011 10:50:19 PM

OK thanks jaquith for all the info in your posts. What about the MSI P67A-GD55? Assuming revisions on all the SB boards are out or coming out soon on those models mentioned. I would prefer a full ATX board :p 
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a b V Motherboard
March 20, 2011 11:49:12 PM

inwd said:
OK thanks jaquith for all the info in your posts. What about the MSI P67A-GD55? Assuming revisions on all the SB boards are out or coming out soon on those models mentioned. I would prefer a full ATX board :p 


From Neegg (MSI P67A-GD55) it's gotten good reviews so far; MSI also has a reputation for quality. However, the MSI board is missing some features that the Asus board has. Namely, reviewers have given the auto-overclock feature of the Asus P8P67 board very high marks -- this is called the "auto-tune" feature. This is missing from the MSI board.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1500/1/
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March 21, 2011 12:04:54 AM

OK then thanks I'm considering the MSI P67A-GD55 over the ASUS PRO it's less expensive and I don't plan to overclock :0
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 21, 2011 1:10:08 AM

My order of preference: EVGA {gaming}, ASUS, ASRock and MSI. I have no problems with MSI.

People tend to recommend what they have the most experience with and for me it's EVGA and ASUS. I look at them {MSI} all of the time and have a neutral feeling about them. I have to my recollection, never built an MSI rig...however, I do know that MSI made a concerted effort on the P67/H67. I hear 'military grade' and my pavlovian response think MSI.

MSI P67A-GD55 reviews are always Good.
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March 21, 2011 2:26:54 AM

true I've only had exp with ASUS and GIGABYTE boards. I could consider ASUS PRO but I don't know if I would take advantage of the features over the MSI P67A-GD55 for the price.
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March 23, 2011 5:11:18 PM

jaquith said:
From the get-go I've recommended the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE for most enthusiasts. I do NOT recommend either the H67 or Z68 'IF' using a Discrete GPU 1 or more; you'll loose physical RAM and share the PCIe bandwidth with the Discrete GPU.

Clearly, the H67 + 'K' CPU is a total waste; No OC and limited Turbo-boost. The H67 is fine for non-K CPUs and onboard VGA. The Z68 allows K OC, but again you're faced with the sharing as described above.

Therefore, Discrete GPU + K SB CPU leaves the P67. Next, it comes down to 'Options' and 'Needs' that you haven't listed.

SIMPLE CONFIG -> SABERTOOTH P67 or P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE or P8P67-M PRO
SIMPLE CONFIG / BT -> P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE

PCIe SSD -> P8P67 PRO or P8P67 DELUXE
RAID 0 SSD / PCIe SSD -> P8P67 DELUXE
LAN Party - > P8P67 DELUXE

To simplify, if the goal is a single GPU, SSD + HDD + ODD, OC or essentially as a basic but fast Desktop and I didn't need all the bells and whistles {BT/RAID 0 SSD/Dual LAN/CF or SLI} then I'd choose the P8P67-M PRO http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=iT2FJPCMOGBHClu4

ASUS:
Maximus IV Extreme {2~3WAY, x8...x8, Marvell 9182 [ASUS typo? 9128] RAID 0/1, Dual Intel LAN, BT}
P8P67 WS Revolution {2~3WAY & 4-WAY Quadro only, x8...x8, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, Dual Intel LAN}

P8P67 DELUXE {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN, BT, eSATA, USB3 Ft Panel}

P8P67 EVO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN}
P8P67 PRO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, BT}

SABERTOOTH P67 {2-WAY, x8/x8, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA}
P8P67 LE {cheap}
P8P67 {cheap}
P8P67-M {cheap}
P8P67-M PRO {cheap}

edit: Building Chart:
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/Build_Chart_Q1-2011-1.jpg



But have not the P67 chipset been withdrawn by Intel for the design flaw?
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 23, 2011 6:01:34 PM

Yes, and now the B3 revisions are available / replacements. It's going to be "weeks" before supplies are fully restored -- plus there is pent up demands so they're going out faster than they're coming in.
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March 24, 2011 2:42:10 AM

jaquith said:
Yes, and now the B3 revisions are available / replacements. It's going to be "weeks" before supplies are fully restored -- plus there is pent up demands so they're going out faster than they're coming in.


Do you think one should wait for the Z68 series? Does the Intel DP67BGB3 have decent enough HD graphics not to warrant a discrete GPU?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlo...

http://www.trubritarforums.com/index.php/topic/6763-x68...

Asus support is really very poor here in India. Though I am using a Asus Deluxe board, and it has served me fine, it recently failed after running 24x7 for 6 years.

Thanks
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March 24, 2011 3:14:03 AM

jaquith said:
From the get-go I've recommended the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE for most enthusiasts. I do NOT recommend either the H67 or Z68 'IF' using a Discrete GPU 1 or more; you'll loose physical RAM and share the PCIe bandwidth with the Discrete GPU.


You still require a discrete graphic card for ASUS P8P67 DELUXE board, do you not?

Thanks
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 24, 2011 4:42:34 PM

Yes, the P67 requires Discrete GPU(s). Waiting, it depends upon your Purpose and Budget. 'IF' I were to build either an HTPC or general Desktop {non-gaming} then I would probably wait for Z68, and most HTPC's are like DVD/DVR players so the H67 is fine. Supposedly, the Z68 is coming out in Q2 2011, but the P67 recall -- it 'could be' closer to Q3 2011. Remember, either the H67 or Z68 will pull both Physical RAM {0.5GB+} AND PCIe Bandwidth {10~20%} regardless if a Discrete GPU is used or not.

In any case, if 'Gaming' is part of the 'LIST' then P67 or maybe Z68 but for 'TV' resolutions.

Hope that helps & Good Luck! :) 
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March 25, 2011 4:54:19 AM

Thanks for that..

I want to build a powerful PC, capable of heavy multi-tasking, as also HD playback.

Am told Intel has rectified the SATA error and added a suffix -B3 to their P67 series.

But the SATA error is the one that HAS been reported, there could be others. So I think it best to wait for the Z68.

Thanks!
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a c 104 V Motherboard
March 25, 2011 12:46:35 PM

colo said:


Am told Intel has rectified the SATA error and added a suffix -B3 to their P67 series.

But the SATA error is the one that HAS been reported, there could be others. So I think it best to wait for the Z68.

Thanks!

The same logic applies to ALL board manufacturers.

Another way to look at it that Intel has discovered and rectified their error; the others might not have even discovered errors in their new products, and probably will wait for customer returns.

Happens frequently in the automotive industry too! With every manufacturer.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 25, 2011 3:46:31 PM

I am a 'Post Early Adopter' meaning I tend to wait for a 'number' of reviews and reviews from USERS more so prior to buying. The technologies between H67/P67/Z68 are more less the same -- regardless give any 'new' or 're-release' in this case for the P67/H67 at least a few weeks.

** I just noticed an OP building several 'B3' {post-recall} having problems with several of their Intel SATA II ports {3 Gb/s} which is what the recall was all about. ** I'm looking for other cases now, this thread -> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/288760-30-anyone-sata...

Clearly you want the P67 based upon your comments "powerful PC, capable of heavy multi-tasking, as also HD playback." Also, if you are heavy in multi-tasking then you want the i7-2600 series CPU; only the i7-2600K/S/_ are 4-core and 4-threads the i5 are 4-core with NO HT Hyper-Threading.
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March 25, 2011 8:37:09 PM

Yes, it actually makes sense to wait to wait for a few weeks before P67-B3 stabilizes sans complaints/ recalls.

Do you suggest the i7-2600 or the top-end 2600K? I obviously want the investment to last a few years, and am only building a new system because my Asus A7N-SLI Deluxe board failed. At that time the AMD 939 chips were hot, and I got an Opteron 165 later on.

Do you agree that today's mATX/ uATX boards are as good as our good old ATX ones? I was having a discussion with my son, and have always favoured ATX.

Thanks again!

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March 25, 2011 8:39:46 PM

Ubrales said:
The same logic applies to ALL board manufacturers.

Another way to look at it that Intel has discovered and rectified their error; the others might not have even discovered errors in their new products, and probably will wait for customer returns.

Happens frequently in the automotive industry too! With every manufacturer.


Quite right...so one has to also look for the best available support. Asus is pretty bad here in India, Intel among the better ones.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
March 26, 2011 1:10:05 AM

i7-2600 vs i7-2600K ; P67 = i7-2600K and H67 = i7-2600. See Building Chart above.
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March 27, 2011 3:08:10 AM

jaquith said:
Yes, the P67 requires Discrete GPU(s). Waiting, it depends upon your Purpose and Budget. 'IF' I were to build either an HTPC or general Desktop {non-gaming} then I would probably wait for Z68, and most HTPC's are like DVD/DVR players so the H67 is fine. Supposedly, the Z68 is coming out in Q2 2011, but the P67 recall -- it 'could be' closer to Q3 2011. Remember, either the H67 or Z68 will pull both Physical RAM {0.5GB+} AND PCIe Bandwidth {10~20%} regardless if a Discrete GPU is used or not.

In any case, if 'Gaming' is part of the 'LIST' then P67 or maybe Z68 but for 'TV' resolutions.

Hope that helps & Good Luck! :) 


Jaquith, as a recent lurker on these forums I have to say I've found your posts extremely helpful!

I had just convinced myself to wait for 2-3 months for the Z68 mobos in case the 'Quick Sync' capability amounted to something useful in the next couple years. Hadn't delved deeply enough apparently to discover the bandwidth and memory penalties. Was also hoping with all the SSD caching attention that the conflicts with RevoDrives and RAID data drive setups would be resolved.

Maybe I needn't bother waiting after all -- too bad the ASUS P8P67 Deluxe mobos are sold out again on NewEgg...
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