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May 13, 2010 11:43:36 PM

amd phenom II x4 955
4gb ddr3 1600
hd 5850
asus m4a79xtd
bfg 550w psu
hitachi 250gb hdd
hp dvd1170 dvd drive
6x 120mm red, blue and green fans
coolermaster hyper 212
coolermaster haf 932(modded)- Please let me know if you guys would like to see my mod... i dont want to waste the time to put it on the forums and have 1 person comment on it.
samsung sync master 2429
saitek cyborg keyboard
microsoft sidewinder mouse
Belkin n52te game pad
creative t5.1 surround sound system


I dont know if i should get a second hd 5850 or sell it and get a gtx 480, if i sell my 5850 i will get the gtx 480 for about 50 dollars cheaper than another 5850 and wiont have to upgrade my psu. I game at 1920-1080 and i prefer to play my games at the highest settings. If someone could please supply me with their OWN info on the frames per second they get with either of these setups, please let me know.


p.s. For anyone who is going to tell me psu cant handle 2 5850's. I KNOW THAT...... it can handle a gtx 480... my friend runs his 480 on his bfg 550w gs series.

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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 12:53:44 AM

Your PSU will NOT handle a GTX480. Only 18A per 12v rail, you'll need at least 25.

Neither will it handle 2x HD5850.

This PSU will run 2x HD5850 just fine, though I wouldn't overclock them much.

Seeing as how you already have an HD5850, you could overclock it to HD5870 levels, and then crossfire another OC'd one for extreme performance.
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May 14, 2010 1:12:57 AM

yes my psu WILL handle a gtx 480, with my setup now, i only use 468 watts on absolutely 100% power. my power supply IS capable of running a gtx 480. My hd 5850 needs 24a on each rail, it still runs. I dont plan to overclock though, only because im afraid my video will die. if you ould shine some light on the subject, that would be nice.
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 1:13:25 AM

For the price option You've mentioned, its better to get the GTX 480.. However i too think your PSU will not handle it properly and might cause problems in the long run..
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May 14, 2010 1:18:45 AM

i will get a new power supply then if it will cause problems in the long run. i was also going towards the gtx 480 because i havent run sli or crossfire. The power supply shadow metioned.. It doesnt even have 4 pci-e cords so i would have to use adapters and thats probably more unreliable than a borderline over used psu.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 1:29:44 AM

Not really. That PSU has 50A on a single 12-volt rail, which is enough to power 2x15A and 1x13A.

Keep in mind an OC'd HD5850 will be on-par or very close to a GTX480.
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May 14, 2010 1:36:11 AM

i am going to get the power supply u metioned and a gtx 480. Thank you for showing me the power supply.
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May 14, 2010 2:24:56 AM

why is this forum filled with ati fanboys? i hate it when cheap people try to justify their cheapness with fake claims of performance. NVIDIA > ATI. GET OVER IT. (also intel > amd)
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May 14, 2010 2:37:21 AM

brennon7 said:
Obvious Troll- Please show me video of someone gaming on 3 screens with a single Nvidia card. Oh wait... YOU CAN'T. Nvidia just got owned.


show me someone who wants a) a hugely disproportionately sized display and b) 2 big black bars in the middle of the screen they are trying to watch. Oh wait... YOU CAN'T. ATI just got owned.
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May 14, 2010 2:37:59 AM

neoletrix said:
why is this forum filled with ati fanboys? i hate it when cheap people try to justify their cheapness with fake claims of performance. NVIDIA > ATI. GET OVER IT. (also intel > amd)


Obvious Troll- Please show me video of someone gaming on 3 screens with a single Nvidia card. Oh wait... YOU CAN'T. Nvidia just got owned.
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May 14, 2010 2:45:35 AM

lol...... i was hoping to get people who are fan boys from both sides but i have gotten only ati so far..... i dont plan on playing on 3 screens any time soon. also i apologize to ati and my self for this comment... 2 gtx 480 can play on 3 screens and go 3d.... ati just got owned. AMD is better than intel for price over performance ratios.
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May 14, 2010 2:46:50 AM

neoletrix said:
show me someone who wants a) a hugely disproportionately sized display and b) 2 big black bars in the middle of the screen they are trying to watch. Oh wait... YOU CAN'T. ATI just got owned.


Disproportionate to what? I guess you can't drive your car because they have A Pillars there either, or do you just stare at those as well?
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May 14, 2010 2:49:04 AM

Slayer32163 said:
lol...... i was hoping to get people who are fan boys from both sides but i have gotten only ati so far..... i dont plan on playing on 3 screens any time soon. also i apologize to ati and my self for this comment... 2 gtx 480 can play on 3 screens and go 3d.... ati just got owned. AMD is better than intel for price over performance ratios.


barely.. if you check this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc-...

you can see that pretty much any intel processor owns the *** out of any AMD processor. yes, you get better bang for your buck, but seriously its not that big of a difference pricewise. and you know what they say, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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May 14, 2010 2:54:37 AM

ok i understand your a die hard intel fan, i dont mind that, i got what i paid for and have no regrets, im not going to pay and extra 100 dollars to get a 1-2fps increase, lets please get back on the video card subject..... would you prefer having a gtx 480 or 2 hd 5850's. i am not going to play on 3 screens or go 3d, i like to have aa on in my games. i heard the 480 handles aa better. my hd5850 cant have aa on at all with out a significant drop in fps.
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:07:33 AM

neoletrix said:
barely.. if you check this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc-...

you can see that pretty much any intel processor owns the *** out of any AMD processor. yes, you get better bang for your buck, but seriously its not that big of a difference pricewise. and you know what they say, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.


Except in the case of Nvidia new Fermi cards where what you pay for is a name of a brand clearly trying to live off its past reputation.

For gaming the 480/470 is hard to sell. You have cards that are too hot, too noisy and are power whores. The 470 is the challenger to the 5850 and it wins but not hugely and certainly not for the the price of the above issues AND a price tag uncomfortably close to the 5870.
The 480 wins against the 5870, but again is horribly overpriced for the performance gain and again suffers the issues of heat power and noise.

It is simply a case that ATI this round of cards has won the gaming arena. I have to confess I moved to ATI reluctantly as I have been enjoying Nvidia since Geforce 3, but with the Fermi I could not convince myself to part my cash.

On the other hand, I am not a fan of XFire/SLI instead of a powerful single card. But in this case I still think I would sooner go with 2 x 5850
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:09:16 AM

If you're not going to be swayed, then why ask for opinions? You have an HD5850. If you CF it for $300, you will have performance wayyy over a GTX480. If you buy a GTX470 for $350, you're losing in terms of money/performance. If you buy a GTX480 for $550, you lost heavily, considering that you'd sell your HD5850 for $250, and a new one is $300.

There's no reason not to go with another HD5850 right now, really.
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 1:11:25 PM

I say that if you are looking at getting an idea on a card, look at the sheer numbers. ATI and NVidia both have decent cards that perform differently based on the game/program. If you play certain games you might have a better experience with ATI or vice versa with NVidia. Take a look at charts and see what best suits your needs.

As for Intel vs AMD, again there is differences based on productivity. AMD is better price/performance for gaming where as Intel is better price/performance for productivity. If you need proof take a look at the charts. I say that it comes down to opinion on what is better in the Intel/AMD and NVidia/ATI debates.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 2:15:33 PM

Amd has better processors for the money in the low and midrange and the motherboards tend to be a bit cheaper as well. They don't sell high end processors at the moment.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 4:44:57 PM

The Athlons are extremely cheap productivity CPUs (quad-core for under $100), the dual-core phenoms are extremely cheap gaming CPUs, the quad-core phenoms are the all-around good CPUs, and the 6-cores beat intel's more than half the time.
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 7:38:56 PM

Wow, this turned into a fanboy flame war real fast, ANYWAY to bring this back on topic: Slayer mentioned that he's going with a GTX 480 and a new PSU. Congrats on your new hardware, I can safely say that you won't be disappointed with it's performance. My rule of thumb is that you generally don't want your computer's total power consumption to be above 75% of the power supply's maximum amount. If your computer is going to be using 500 watts, then you should have at least a 650 watt psu to be safe.

Personally, I'm very anal about making sure I have PLENTY of power available, even though I know I probably won't use it. It's why even with a single GTX 285, an oc'd Quad Core and RAM, 6 fans, 2 hdd's, 2 dvd drives, I run this:

http://www.pcpower.com/products/description/Silencer_Mk...

750 watt continuous, 880 watts peak, 88% efficiency, 4 PCI-E connectors, 7 year warranty and it's super quiet. That'll definitely cure your power needs, if you haven't already made your purchase : )
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:00:38 PM



I'm not a hater, but you're being very selective. You're using Modern Warfare 2 and Just Cause 2 as examples, whereas Crysis Warhead a 5970 does beat a 480

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-2-3-way-s...

It's a very close race between both cards and both cards are almost identical in performance. The fact that the 480 is only one GPU and not two allows it to scale better in SLi than a 5970 scales in Crossfire.

Also, in ANNO 1404, a 5970 has almost a 50% edge over a single 480.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-2-3-way-s...

If you're going to make a point about a card being better than another, don't pick and choose specific titles that it does better in. (note that I'm providing specific examples only as a counterpoint. I believe both cards to be great performers)
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a c 271 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:03:14 PM

borisof007 said:
I'm not a hater, but you're being very selective. You're using Modern Warfare 2 and Just Cause 2 as examples, whereas Crysis Warhead a 5970 does beat a 480

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-2-3-way-s...

It's a very close race between both cards and both cards are almost identical in performance. The fact that the 480 is only one GPU and not two allows it to scale better in SLi than a 5970 scales in Crossfire.

Also, in ANNO 1404, a 5970 has almost a 50% edge over a single 480.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-2-3-way-s...

If you're going to make a point about a card being better than another, don't pick and choose specific titles that it does better in. (note that I'm providing specific examples only as a counterpoint. I believe both cards to be great performers)

Of course I was being selective but it shows the 5970 does not always dominate and if you take price into account then it defiantly doesn't.
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a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:18:58 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Of course I was being selective but it shows the 5970 does not always dominate and if you take price into account then it defiantly doesn't.


And you're 100% right and I absolutely agree. If I had to make a choice, in my own opinion, between a 5970 and a 480, I would take a 480 hands down.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
May 14, 2010 10:23:15 PM

IMHO I think a couple of 470's would be better but that said I'm staying away from this first gen of DX11 cards as I feel that both side have issues that I hope will be sorted out in later iterations.
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May 15, 2010 1:14:55 AM

I think one GTX 480 will be the better option. You can add another one later...
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May 15, 2010 2:58:58 AM

I would wait a few months and then get the gtx 480.
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