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Hello I had some help earlier with suggestions of putting together a computer and am about to order it I would like a final look over with any suggestions:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - 159.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - 239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

EVGA 015-P3-1482-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - 532.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - 279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007

Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80601960 - 569.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224

Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - 389.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI - 179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

LITE-ON DVD Writer - Bulk - Black SATA Model iHAS224-06 LightScribe Support - OEM -23.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106333

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - 9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler - 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

BYTECC Bracket-35225 2.5 Inch HDD/SSD Mounting Kit For 3.5" Drive Bay or Enclosure - 5.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994085

Total(with rebates) 2,543.87

How does this look? I was thinking about upgrading the case to this:

COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case - 199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

It looks like if I got the above case I would not need the 3.5 to 2.5 mounting bad for the SSD correct? Should I upgrade to this case you think? Any other changes are also welcomed

Thanks for viewing.
 
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I'll change the 212+ to the below

Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler - 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

If you think the above would fit and perform better in the HAF case.

I think I'm going to keep the 960 as I don't plan to overclock (I'm not a fan of overclocking to paranoid)

As for the better 480 why is this a better 480 compared to the EVGA one? I also noticed that this 480 is currently out of stock.

Any opinions on the HAF-X compared to the HAF932? Would I need a mounting bracket in the HAF-X? It looks like I wouldn't.
 
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Good choice of cooler you need to buy additional fans for it thoug maybe a scythe 1600.

And the 960 is a really bad buy it's bassically a 930 with a higher frequency. Even if you don't OC it's almost the same performance at nearly half the price.

The 480 I linked has a higher frequency so it performs better. It's also quieter, cooler and cheaper. If it remains out of stock however the evga isn't a bad choice.

The haf x is simply a slightly better case than the 932 it has better cooling and more features. And no I don't think you need a mounting bracket.
 
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Good choice of cooler you need to buy additional fans for it thoug maybe a scythe 1600.

And the 960 is a really bad buy it's bassically a 930 with a higher frequency. Even if you don't OC it's almost the same performance at nearly half the price.

The 480 I linked has a higher frequency so it performs better. It's also quieter, cooler and cheaper. If it remains out of stock however the evga isn't a bad choice.

The haf x is simply a slightly better case than the 932 it has better cooling and more features. And no I don't think you need a mounting bracket.
 
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Ok so would these be good for the heatsink?

Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Case Fan - 19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185006

I'm guessing I should get two of these or would one be enough?

As for the 930 to the 960 its a 2.8 compared to a 3.2 which I think is enough to warrant the price eventually the power difference will become more noticeable in the future.

With the fans on this heatsink they should just clip on to the sides of it correct?
 
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yup those fans look good. Actually if you don't OC none would do lol. I'd take one since I don't know if there are enough mounting wires with the prolimatech to mount 2.

both the 930 and 960 will be bottlenecked by your GPU in games and by other things in other apps. And if you really want cpu performance OC the 930 to 3.2 as it's bassically the same chip and the prolimatech does a much better job at keeping it cool than the stock cooler on a 960 would. Also your system will crash before you can do any permanent damage. And if you don't want to OC and don't want the 930
then the 980 is still much much much better at a price though.

But then again I think you've already made up your mind :p.
 
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So you think the 930 would be a better choice to save some money. When you say its going to be bottle-necked by the GPU is it still going to apply if later on down the road I add another 480 or say two more 480s to make a total of 3 cards running with the 930?

If the 930 is going to be ample enough to run games on high with 2-3 cards down the road I will switch to it. As for the 980 its a bit pricey and I don't think 6 cores will be a benefit to gaming at all anytime soon (Seems almost everything is only using 2 cores still)

It looks like it can take two fans from the reviews I read on newegg I'm worried that this will take up to much room and not allow room for the fan or ram if I put two on the heat-sink. What do you think one fan would be enough? I'm worried that this will not fit in the HAF-X box since it also has a side fan. If thats the case is there any other heatsink fan combo you can recommend that wouldn't take up as much space? I know it will fit in the HAF932 from what I read but cant find anything if it will fit in the HAF-X

I'll switch it to the 930 if you think it would be a better choice and I think I'll switch the case to the HAF-X and remove the mounting bracket since you said I shouldn't need it for one SSD in this case correct?

I could use the extra money to get another 480 or just save it. Opinions on that?
 
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And yeah I'm recommending the 930 solely to save money.

Depending on the game a 930 should suffice for at least 2 480's and in most games three aswell.

The haf x to my knowledge is just like the 932 exept the side fan. And that shouldn't make a difference in wether the cooler will fit or not. Also the prolimatech is pretty standard size I'm really pretty sure it fits. Likewise for the SSD

And you could also just save the money lol. Since if you're running on one screen I'd just leave it at one. If you want 3d or 3screens it might be worth getting a second one but if you have a single 1080p monitor a second one is pretty unneccesary at this point.

You could maybe get a nice gaming keyboard and mouse if you don't already have that. Or good speakers if you don't have it.

Also that mobo isn't really fantastic. It will do but if you want 3way sli then I think you'd better get maybe a ga x58a ud7/ud5 or an asus p6x58d premium.
 
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The only difference I see between the motherboard I have and the asus p6x58d premium is a second lan slot. Am I missing something else otherwise it looks like they have the same number of ports. Am I missing something I don't really see the need to pay 100 dollars more just for an extra lan slot.

If you can suggest other reasons to get the upgraded motherboard I might look into it not sure if I'll ever get up to 3 way SLI before I just upgrade again but I might so I would like to hear why you think the premium is a better choice for the SLI.

Thanks
 
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the e has basic heatsinks while the premium heatsinks can dissipate far more heat. Other than that there is no major difference although I think the premium will perform slightly(very marginally) better.

Just the heat dissipation sets them apart really.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422&cm_re=ga_x58a-_-13-128-422-_-Product also a very good mobo I own(and am very content with it) one and it's only 260 after rebate. This one has many LED's indicating high temps or voltages. It also has a debug screen incase you run into no post issues. The cooling on it is also far better than on the p6x58d-e.
 
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1) The Gigabyte X58A-UD3R is pretty much the same board as the ASUS you have in the OP, but costs $30 less.

2) DO NOT BUY A 960 FOR GAMING PURPOSES. It is literally the same exact chip as the 930, just overclocked at the factory (with a waranty). If you plan on overclocking, buy the 930 (I'm assuming you are because you're buying a HSF). You can get to 3.2 on a stock heatsink.

3) If your case choice is a personal preference- go for it. If you are just looking for a good case with good cooling, go with the HAF 922. It's the same size as many larger cases (and will fit all of your equipment), and is pretty cheap.

4) You don't need a 1000W power suply unless you plan on buying more 480's in the future. If you are sticking with just one 480, you can downgrade to a 750W

5) Based on your other comments, I would still suggest going for the Coolermaster Hyper 212. You can get a good overclock (sub 4.0) with the 212, and it is only $30. The Megahelms (and similar HSFs) are for more intense overclocks (4.0+). Note that you will not likely be reaching 100% load while only playing games.

6) If you are only gaming, an SSD won't help much (miniscule effect on fps). It will decrease load times a bit, but it will only save a matter of a minute or two while playing online games. I would suggest going a boot drive at this price range, but at the rate that SSDs are advancing, I would even suggest waiting until a later time until their price continues to drop. If this convenience factor is worth the $400, go for it. If not, you can stick with the spinpoint and you won't notice much of a difference in gaming.
 
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SSD's give an insane improvement to average computer usage. Everyone is so hyped about fps. Seriously anyone who games uses his pc for lots of other stuff aswell(I assume so anyways) and the ssd gives huge improvements to that.
 
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I'll go ahead and upgrade the board to the :

ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614
It seems to have very good marks on NewEgg in terms of review and should have the quality heat sinks.

I'm not a big fan of overclocking I don't like messing with the CPU when I know I could mess it up very easily and I don't have any experience with overclocking hence while I'm going with the I7-960. Its already done and has the warranty.

I'm just buying the HSF to keep things cool I'm guessing the 960 is more then enough to handle any games without being overclocked so I would think it wouldn't be a problem.

I'm not sure what HSF to get now as I've heard both sides of the coin. If I plan on getting the 960 and not overclocking which HSF would be a good choice?

The SSD is for load times on windows too. But since this is a higher end gaming box I'd like it for the speed of loading and if it has a small effect on the FPS that's even better. I noticed even when I had a velociraptor harddrive the speed of loading things in was much quicker back when I was playing WoW. So I would like to keep it and I'm sure it will become more useful as time goes on.

The 1000w supply is for when I do upgrade down the road my latest computer doesn't have PCI Express 2.0 so I was only able to upgrade the video so far which is another reason I'm making a new computer. Hopefully this one will last longer and let me change out more parts. So in the future I could add another 480 or two if needed.
 
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if you don't OC I'd reccomend an h50 as it may not perform amazingly but it gives your system a clean look, it saves space and is pretty quiet(with the right fans).

I prefer the ga x58a ud5 to the premium as it simply has more features larger radiators. I don't see it being worse in any way and it isn't that expensive either. But they are both good mobos. The newegg reviews shouldn't be trusted too much.
 
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My only consern on that board from reading some reviews is that some of the slots are hard to get to such as the IDE slots and that you may have trouble putting a 3rd video card in. You have this board so I guess I'd like to ask your thoughts on it. So you think I should change the HSF to an h50 for the i7-960?

Also, case wise I'm not sure which one to pick out of the HAF922, HAF 932, HAF-X they all look like good cases.
 
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If money is no object to you, then go ahead and get the parts you mention above.

Otherwise, you really do not need that board. The X58A-UD3R will be the exact same performance for your uses, nealry $100 less expensive. The board you have selected in the post above is geared towards people doing high overclocks and other tweaking.

Overclocking is not at all hard (for easy overclocks). You can literally get your i7-930 to the same clock as the 960 (3.2) in about 2 minutes on a stock heatsink. You could probably even get to 3.2 on stock voltages. There are guides all over that show you how to do it, we could even walk you through it step by step.

You do not need a HSF if you are not overclocking. The stock heatsinks that come with each respective processor are designed for optimal use at the stock clock speeds.

I agree, SSDs are amazing. I wish I would have waited in buying my SSD, as two weeks after I bought mine they released a new line at competative prices. If you are getting an SSD, stick with the one you have listed.


With the money saved by my suggestions, you could get a second 480 and blow away every game out right now, and remain in the high end category for a solid year or two.
 
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So you recommend the X58A-UD3R and the 930 with overclocking then. If I do this what HSF should I get for the cooling? Also from what the other poster said the GA-X58A-UD5 has better heatsinks for cooling especially if 2 or more cards are used. Do you think I should get this board if I want to get two cards and go with the I7-930?

Also would all this fit in a HAF922 still? Or would it still be better to get the HAF932 or HAF-X. I know I'll need a mounting bracket for the SSD for the first two which is no big deal. Dust filters are on the HAF-X dont think there are any on the 932. Not sure about the 922.
 
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I am still sticking with the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for the type of overclock that you are going to do. You really do not need anything more- especially if you are only taking it around 3.2 (to match the 960's performance).

The heatsinks that the UD5 offers are designed to help advanced tweaking and overclocking, which you won't be doing. The heatsinks could theoretically help cool the board a bit more, but they are really designed for overclocking/tweaking. Someone can advise on whether or not the board will provide any cooling boost over the ud3r.

All of that would fit in the 922. Dust filters are overrated- just take an air can to your machine every (4-6) months. Your system will always accumulate dust (with filters or not) unless you have an airtight case.
 
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So you see no reason to use the HAF-X or HAF-932? I was thinking the HAF-X for the dust filters + the 2.5 drive support that comes with it but if you think the HAF-922 is a better choice for this I"ll switch it.

I'm still not sure about the overclocking after looking around a little bit I'm not sure I want to get into it as it seems more confusing then anything with tweaking voltages and running tons of test. I think it be worth it to just spend the extra money and get the 960 or just get the 930 and not overclock it not sure how much benefit the 960 will give me gaming. I really don't want to overclock but I want a strong system and a cool (as in running cool) system. Which is why I wanted to get the 960 and avoid the hassle of overclocking.

So you suggest the UD2 over the ASUS P6X58D-E in terms if I'm going to get the 960 and not overclock? I still want to get a HSF so the CPU runs cool so I'll probably stay with the Hyper212+ just so it runs cool even in hot weather.
 
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143miah states a good point. Not only is the antec 1200 a very good case like the 932, better than the 922 and slightly worse than the 942(haf x). The psu is also very high quality.

Omniblivion the OP is worried about overclocking because the risks that come with it. The better cooling you have the smaller these risks are and the longer your components will last. The h50 and ud5 may be slightly overkill but they are far more reliable if you want to minimize risks of breaking things(which I think is your main concern when you say you don't want to OC).

The ud3 and hyper 212 will suffice but they pose greater(still small) than the ud5 and h50 of breaking or shortening lifespan of components.

BTW: The corsair h50 performs quite q bit better thqn the hyper 212+ in case I confused you.
 
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