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Will a Phenom II X2 550 3.7ghz bottleneck the upcoming ATI 6000?

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August 20, 2010 7:43:09 PM

Will a Phenom II X2 550 3.7ghz bottleneck the upcoming ATI 6000 series? Or do I need to upgrade my current cpu? I'm into games(1080p), photoshop, and planning to some video editing..
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August 20, 2010 8:00:28 PM

Probably. Right now a C2Q is still enough for a mid end dual GPU or current high end ATI/nVidia. But if ATI keeps up their trend, the HD6K series might have 2x the SPs which would mean a HD6870 would be as powerful as a HD5970.
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August 20, 2010 8:13:21 PM

Yup.
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August 20, 2010 8:26:40 PM

Ok. Thanks!:)  So, that means I must upgrade my cpu. I'm thinking about Phenom II X4 955 BE or X6 1075t for the upcoming ATI 6000 series. The X6 BE is still expensive by now but the x4 is getting somewhat cheaper. Is the X6 1075t more practical if I'll upgrade my cpu or should I go for the X4 955 because its cheaper?
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August 20, 2010 8:30:45 PM

Are there any price predictions about the 6850 and 6870? Hope its not that power consuming and cheaper in price..
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August 20, 2010 8:31:28 PM

Why don't you just not worry about it untill its release really there is no good information on the card yet keep what you have until the card comes out or even better until you start running into games that your can 't run 1080p. Then start asking this question because to be honest every one who replies yes or no, is using guessing since its hasn't been released.
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August 20, 2010 8:36:32 PM

ikaz said:
Why don't you just not worry about it untill its release really there is no good information on the card yet keep what you have until the card comes out or even better until you start running into games that your can 't run 1080p. Then start asking this question because to be honest every one who replies yes or no, is using guessing since its hasn't been released.


Ok. Sorry. I was just asking..
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August 20, 2010 9:01:25 PM

kraut_aa said:
Are there any price predictions about the 6850 and 6870? Hope its not that power consuming and cheaper in price..


I am hoping sub $400 for HD6870 and sub $300 for HD6850.

ikaz said:
Why don't you just not worry about it untill its release really there is no good information on the card yet keep what you have until the card comes out or even better until you start running into games that your can 't run 1080p. Then start asking this question because to be honest every one who replies yes or no, is using guessing since its hasn't been released.


Thats not very helpful......
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August 20, 2010 9:43:37 PM

I think what you're really asking (as no one knows what will bottleneck unreleased GPUs) is:
Q1 Should I attempt to future-proof my CPU purchase?

If so, the answer is yes, buy the fastest/most cores you can afford, but realize that PC technology moves quite fast, and something considered fast today may not seem quite so speedy a couple of years on.

If you already own the X2 then the question is:
Q2 Is the X2 it bottle-necking the GPU I have now? (as the HD6000 series does not exist)

If it is, and you're upgrading, see Q1. Otherwise, wait and see if/when the HD6000 series is released and check benchmarks with different CPUs
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August 21, 2010 3:27:17 AM

werxen said:
Yup.

I'm going to disagree and say "no".

However, it will bottleneck your gaming on any game that can use more than 2 CPU cores. This is basically any game past 2008-2009 and some games before.
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August 21, 2010 4:25:17 PM

jimmysmitty said:
I am hoping sub $400 for HD6870 and sub $300 for HD6850.



Thats not very helpful......


Thanks.:)  So, the prices are gonna be somewhat still like the high'end 5xxx series. I was thinking of it too and some of my friends. Thanks. Hope They're not that power consuming because I only have 550w psu..
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August 21, 2010 4:37:38 PM

jay_l_a said:
I think what you're really asking (as no one knows what will bottleneck unreleased GPUs) is:
Q1 Should I attempt to future-proof my CPU purchase?

If so, the answer is yes, buy the fastest/most cores you can afford, but realize that PC technology moves quite fast, and something considered fast today may not seem quite so speedy a couple of years on.

If you already own the X2 then the question is:
Q2 Is the X2 it bottle-necking the GPU I have now? (as the HD6000 series does not exist)

If it is, and you're upgrading, see Q1. Otherwise, wait and see if/when the HD6000 series is released and check benchmarks with different CPUs


Yup. Thanks. :)  I just had my pc build last march. And then, new pc products comes out. It's like every year. I was thinking of upgrading my phenom II X2 550 to X4 955 (for video editing) maybe next month because it's cheaper compared to the x6. But I'm not yet quite sure if it's kind of future proof and if it's practical..
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August 21, 2010 4:52:03 PM

kraut_aa said:
Yup. Thanks. :)  I just had my pc build last march. And then, new pc products comes out. It's like every year. I was thinking of upgrading my phenom II X2 550 to X4 955 (for video editing) maybe next month because it's cheaper compared to the x6. But I'm not yet quite sure if it's kind of future proof and if it's practical..

Did you see the news that AMD just dropped the price on the 955?
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August 21, 2010 4:58:19 PM

enzo matrix said:
I'm going to disagree and say "no".

However, it will bottleneck your gaming on any game that can use more than 2 CPU cores. This is basically any game past 2008-2009 and some games before.


Ok. Thanks for the clarification.:)  I haven't notice some bottlenecking when my cpu was oc'd to 3.7ghz w/ 5770 crossfire.. So, it doesn't matter if I'll couple my current cpu with a 5970 or GTX 480 SLI as long as my cpu clock speed is higher? By the way, I'm using a 1080p monitor..
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August 21, 2010 5:16:30 PM

elel said:
Did you see the news that AMD just dropped the price on the 955?


Yup. I've seen it just yesterday. Maybe AMD's planning to release they're new quad cores and six cores this early september. Hope they have black editions too and hope it's not expensive. I think my money is still only enough for the Phenom II X4's if I plan to upgrade next month. I'm still saving for some pc components and accessories..
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August 21, 2010 8:05:04 PM

enzo matrix said:
I'm going to disagree and say "no".

However, it will bottleneck your gaming on any game that can use more than 2 CPU cores. This is basically any game past 2008-2009 and some games before.


Wrong.

His Athlon processor is slow even when overclocked to 3.7. By your logic a dual core atom processor would also not bottleneck it simply because it is a dual core which is obviously not the case.
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August 22, 2010 1:10:49 AM

werxen said:
Wrong.

His Athlon processor is slow even when overclocked to 3.7. By your logic a dual core atom processor would also not bottleneck it simply because it is a dual core which is obviously not the case.

How does that make any sense? That's obviously not at all my logic. And he has a Phenom IIx2, not an Athlon.
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August 22, 2010 1:20:29 AM

If I was you I would stick with what you got until bulldozer comes out.

Tbh I have yet to see a review showing Phenom II not bottlenecking 5870 crossfire (OCed 5970) or better. When compared to faster CPUs on resolutions of 1920x1200 and under.
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August 22, 2010 2:24:16 AM

Yeah Bulldozer is coming in like q4 or q1, so raidur is right. But by 6xxx series do you mean the Southern Islands graphics cards which are coming out very soon? If so then they wont be a 2x perfomance jump, im thinking maybe 25% overall and improved tessellation. Northern Islands, which should be the big performance jump, isnt coming till next year.
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August 22, 2010 5:09:13 AM

My understanding is that buldozer is not due out until sometime next year.
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August 22, 2010 3:09:52 PM

werxen said:
Wrong.

His Athlon processor is slow even when overclocked to 3.7. By your logic a dual core atom processor would also not bottleneck it simply because it is a dual core which is obviously not the case.


By the way, I have a phenom II X2 processor..
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August 22, 2010 3:23:21 PM

Yup. Thanks! I was thinking of the bulldozer too. But I don't yet if it's really gonna be released next year or if my motherboard can support it.. I can save my money for other pc components if my cpu won't still be a bottleneck or if it's good for video editing. I've seen a review about 5870's in crossfire with dual cores but it was on 1680x1050 & 2560x1600. I'm still searching if there is 1920x1200..
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August 23, 2010 3:11:32 AM

I really don't know what would happen to AMD if they didn't get buldozer out next year. I'm hoping for first quarter. As for back compatability, I've heard that they will support the current server sockets but I'm not sure about desktop ones.
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August 23, 2010 3:24:18 AM

The 6xxx series ISNT gonna be a big improvement over 5xxx, atleast compared to 5xxx vs 4xxx. From what ATI and others have said, or just looking at the arch, 5xxx and 6xxx both share the same basic arch. Id say 25% performance gain max, and ATI said 3x the tesselation performance, which is very unlikely, so ill say 2x at most.
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