Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Is this a good bulid for i5-760? x25m, gtx460, what speed RAM for OC?

Last response: in CPUs
Share
August 21, 2010 4:55:55 AM

Hello! I have questions on various topics at the bottom, please. And any help with my build is appreciated.

---------------------------------------------
CPU
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
MOTHERBOARD, which?
$120 GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$140 GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$160 GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$185 GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard w/ USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s
$210 GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD6 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard w/ USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s
newegg link with gigabyte 1156 ATX boards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
---------------------------------------------
RAM. want to OC. don't know which speed to get. please see "Which RAM?" question below.
$103 G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO
1333, 1.35V, 7-7-7-21-2T, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$103 G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
1600, 1.35V, 7-8-7-24-2T http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$140 G.SKILL PI 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL6D-4GBPI
1600, 1.6V, 6-8-6-24, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$103 G.SKILL PIS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model F3-16000CL9D-4GBPIS
2000, 1.65V, 9-9-9-24, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
HARD DRIVE, PRIMARY, which?
$220 Intel X25-M SSDSA2M080G2XX (“OUT OF STOCK”, item N82E16820167027)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$230 Intel X25-M SSDSA2M080G2XXX (newegg says: “Discontinued, replaced by N82E16820167027”)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
HARD DRIVE, SECONDARY
$110 Western Digital 1.5TB Caviar Black Model:WD1501FASS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
VIDEO CARD. I'm thinking GTX 460. but which?
so many models on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...(Fermi)
---------------------------------------------
POWER SUPPLY
$110 Corsair 750W PSU Model:CMPSU-750TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
CASE:
$60 Cooler Master 690 Mid Tower ATX case Model:RC-690-KKN1-GP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
---------------------------------------------
OPERATING SYSTEM
XP 32 bit (already own)
---------------------------------------------
HEATSINK/FAN:
?????
---------------------------------------------
Questions:
1. Which motherboard? Gigabyte suggestions only, please. I am interested in overclocking.
Do the more expensive motherboards offer my build any advantage, overclocking or otherwise? OTherwise I'll just go with the cheapest, considering combo deals.
Will the USB 3.0 or Sata 3.0 matter at all for my build?

2. Which RAM? G.skill only, please. I'd like to OC. With an i5/nehalem system, does a faster CPU mean worse RAM timings, and if so, does it make up for worse RAM timings?
If so, I would like as much OC as possible on air cooling. How fast speed should I get? How will I know if the RAM is plug and play? I don't really wanna pay more than about $130 for RAM.
Can I still get a fast CPU speed with 1333 or 1600 RAM? Even if all these RAMs recommend 2t command rate, will they all, especially the more expensive ones, be able to get a 1t command rate?

3. Will I have any problems trying to install windows Xp 32 bit with my build? For example, I do not think these mobos have a connection for a floppy drive.
Will I need a floppy with SATA drivers to install XP onto a SATA drive? Would I have to use an external floppy?

4. Are RAM sticks like this with slightly names manufactured exactly the same, except the higher model ones tested better?
e.g. F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO, F3-10666CL8D-4GBECO, F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO. What does the first F in g.skill's ram models stand for?

5. Is the newer SSD worth waiting like a week+ for? Does anyone know any specific differences between SSDSA2MH080G2C1 / SSDSA2MH080G2R5 and the newer SSDSA2M080G2GC / SSDSA2M080G2GN?

6. Which video card and heatsink/fan should I get?

7. To any overclockers out there, how often does your computer crash? Does firefox crash more with an unstable OC? And is it possible to get a high OC and never fail prime95?

8. If I want to upgrade an LGA 775 build to 1156, could I just format x25m SSD HD(after plugging it into another computer),
swap in a mobo and cpu, and reinstall Windows? Would I run into any problems?

9. Has anyone here ever used a RAMdisk to make use of more than 4 gigs of RAM on a 32 bit OS?
Anyone know a good place to look for info about that?

10. Does anyone have any links to sites that show windows xp significantly beating windows 7 in benchmarks?

11. Is 1 stick of 4 gigs more likely to fail than 2 sticks of 2gb?

12. I'm thinking about a getting a laptop for word processing. Is a $400 new laptop off newegg worth spending more on than a $100-200 dollar one off of ebay?

13. Should I look into getting parts from any other website besides newegg? I live in the US.

14. Anyone here ever gotten recertified or open box stuff off newegg? Anyone ever gotten new PC parts off ebay?

15. I heard Intel makes makes all the CPUs the same, then makes them worse for lower models. Why do they do that?

16. If you got a gigabyte board, and RAM slots 1 and 3 didnt work, and a lot of people were complaining about that problem, but RAM slots 2 and 4 did,
and it overclocked stable, would you return/refund the board or just keep it?
a b à CPUs
August 21, 2010 5:48:15 PM

WOW, this would be a lot easier if you give me a budget, and i show you a build! :lol: 
m
0
l
Related resources
a c 203 à CPUs
a b å Intel
August 21, 2010 6:08:23 PM

1. GA-P55A-UD4P - SLI capable.
2. Eco F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
3. If your XP isn't SP3, slipstream XP to SP3 and you won't have a problem with SATA drivers.
4. In some cases yes, other cases no. DDR3
5. Skip a SSD for a mid-budget build (unless you already own one).
6. XFX. CM Hyper 212 Plus.
7. Never. Anything will crash more with an unstable OC. Don't use an unstable OC for anything.
8. Easiest way is to format the disk as you do the new install. It's an 'advanced' option.
9. You're better off upgrading to Windows 7 64bit.
10. Windows 7 is a 'no-brainer' for the new hardware.
11. No.
12. Probably. But a very vague question - too many variables.
13. Thats up to you. It's your money.
14. Yes. Yes.
15. Not correct. All CPU MFGRs test parts. Better parts will 'bin' higher. A i5 750 and i5 760 might sit next to each other on the silicon wafer.
16. Why would anyone keep a defective part? Another no-brainer.


m
0
l
August 21, 2010 8:09:23 PM

1. Thanks for the reply WR2. Im only gong to use 1 video card. Which motherboard then, please?
2. Any particular reason for that RAM?
4. When I asked about the first F, I literally just meant "F". Cause F2 (ddr2) models have it to. Stands for frequency?
5. Why? have you tried an x25m yourself?
For the questions about using other sites besides newegg, like ebay, and getting recertified/open box stuff. I wanted to know if it was satisfactory? Any problems? Would you recommend it?
m
0
l
a b à CPUs
August 21, 2010 8:58:22 PM

The X25M is over rated, there are much better and faster ssd's out there for more gigs/$. Newegg is amazing, never had a major problem.
m
0
l
a c 203 à CPUs
a b å Intel
August 21, 2010 9:07:28 PM

For a single GTX 460 video card: GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 And because it's a single video card: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W PSU
Seasonic S12 II Bronze 520W review @ JonnyGuru (rated 9.7)

Stability, flexibility and overclock-ability. G.Skill ECO 4 GB PC3-12800 CL7 Kit review

As far as I know the F does not stand for frequency. You probably want to ask G.Skill if it's important to you.

For a 20% increase in the price of your PC you're getting a poor return on your money in terms of increasing your overall performance.

I'd recommend using NewEgg (combo deals) unless you can find a better price that makes sense to go with a different source of supply. eBay is OK as long as with a good company and you're not dealing with someone working out of his garage. Personally, I'd use open box/re-certified items only under extreme budget pressure.



m
0
l
a b à CPUs
August 21, 2010 9:29:10 PM

Seasonic makes great smaller psus. Also look into XFX and Corsair if they fit into the budget better, as they are more or less Seasonic. And the GTX 460 i recommend is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the MSI one. SSD's are both good and bad. If this is on a budget below $1750ish, or is mainly for gaming, ssds arent good. If it is above $2000, i think ssd's are a must of some size.
m
0
l
a c 203 à CPUs
a b å Intel
August 21, 2010 10:47:32 PM

If you want to see where some experts think a SSD belongs in a build - look over these recommendations:
THG Guide: Recommended Builds by Usage Enthusiast - Extreme: $2,341 (compare that to your approximate system: $1,053 Core i5-760

The next couple of website's make system recommendations in several price ranges and talk about why they recommend the parts.
TechReport's Summer 2010 system guide: Recommendations for building the right enthusiast's PCs. See the Double-Stuff Workstation
Bit-Tech's PC Hardware Buyer's Guide August 2010. See the Premium Player August 2010

m
0
l
!