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May 15, 2010 9:26:01 PM

I've been spending a lot of time researching parts for a new gaming/media work PC I'm building and one of my biggest obstacles has been deciding what graphics card I want (and by extension what mobo to get so I can get good crossfire support should I choose to go that route in the future). I planned on making the PC an HD box and planned to play games at HD resolutions as well as a direct need to watch videos at true 1080P HD resolution (in case I end up needing the box for video editing as well).

If anyone can comment on whether or not a difference is noticeable between 1920x1080 and 1680x1050 I'd also appreciate that.

If it helps, the processor I will be going with will be either a Phenom 2 X4 BE or an i5-750.

Edit: Forgot some stuff.

If I go with the 5850 should I bother getting a 2gb card or a 1gb card? Will I notice a difference in performance at 1920x1080 resolution.

I've also been looking specifically at getting a Vapor-X model (regardless of card), but I'm on the fence about whether or not the premium in price is worth the added performance. Being quiet is a little important so I guess I hold a little value there, but that depends on how loud the regular cards are.

I'm also considering overclocking the card further to get the most out of my purchase.

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a b U Graphics card
May 15, 2010 9:45:13 PM

At 1920x1080 (1080P) a single ATI 5850 is a GREAT choice. The 1GB version is plenty at that resolution at this point. The 2GB card really wouldn't benefit you much unless you went to an even higher resolution.

To play devil's advocate, here's the Vapor-X 2GB and a 1GB version with non-stock cooling. $80 difference for the 2GB version essentially. And at 1080p you won't need it.

Sapphire 5850 Vapor-X 2GB $389
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte 5850 1GB $309 + Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As far as motherboard goes, if you opt for the i5-750 (which I'd strongly recommend) I have had VERY good luck with the GA-P55-UD4P motherboard (there's a newer version out now with 3.0USB). My i5-750 hit 4Ghz within 10 minutes of effort on my part. I haven't tried faster because... well I don't need it!

Most honest benchmarks I've seen show that the i5-750 will beat the PII X4's at most tasks.
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a b U Graphics card
May 15, 2010 9:48:23 PM

Here's the new version of my motherboard:

Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P $185-$15mir = $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As I recall, this motherboard will support CrossfireX & SLI. So you can go ATI or nVidia. So it's very flexible. also, the PCI-E 16X slots are double spaced apart, so you get more airflow between graphics cards on this board.

There's also a Micro-ATX version:

Gigabite GA-P55M-UD4 $139 + Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 15, 2010 10:08:51 PM

For gaming, get the Phenom II x4.

As for HD5850 choice, get the Asus CuCore edition, ESPECIALLY because you're planning on overclocking. That card will beat the $420 HD5870, and AFAIK, it still won't get that hot or loud.

For motherboards, the one linked below looks VERY nice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 15, 2010 10:18:35 PM

I would say the 2gb version of the card is only really worth it if you want to crossfire later and use an eyefinity setup.
The Asus CuCore card shadow mentioned is best choice for a 1gb HD5850.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 15, 2010 10:42:50 PM

Nice fine jyjjy. Upgradeability to a phenom II x6 in a year or so, and all the features of a new chipset for just $15 more.
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May 16, 2010 2:17:33 AM

Thank you all so much for the help. I was leaning towards a Vapor-X model just because I wanted the cooling unit it came with. A local shop has a 1gb one for 339.99 so I'm tempted to go with that one.

I refuse to discount any information I'm given and I'm trying desperately to find an ASUS CuCore HD5850 but to no avail. Since overclocking is something I'm interested in, and this comes highly recommended I'd love to find it if possible.

Edit:

Forgot to ask this question. Is there a big difference between 8x Crossfire and 16x crossfire?
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 16, 2010 2:29:59 AM

As long as they are 2.0x8, you will not see much difference.
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May 16, 2010 3:08:56 AM

I'm giving up my search for a CuCore version of the card for tonight. Been looking for almost an hour now with no concrete results and only one site as proof the card even exists.

Can anyone comment on the OC potential of the Vapor-X card or at least the difference in noise level between regular cards and Vapor-X cards.

Thank again everyone for all the help.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 16, 2010 4:06:55 AM

lol, yeah. CuCore is what they call the HD5770 they make. This is the one you want;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Here is a review;
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1273/
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May 16, 2010 7:41:18 AM

Oh, I see now! Thank you both for the response. Would either of you be able to tell me how it stacks up against the Vapor-X for noise/OC potential? It's really between those two models now for me. I was leaning to the Vapor-X for how quiet it's going to be, but if this DirectCU version will be comparably quiet, but with much larger OC potential I'm going to have to go with that.

Thanks again to both of you for mentioning it, I would've completely overlooked it otherwise.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 16, 2010 8:24:37 AM

I believe the Vapor-X does not allow you to raise the core voltage which will probably limit you to an OC in the 850-900 mhz area rather than 1ghz+ the DirectCu card allows for. As for the noise factor a lot of the reviews on newegg for the card specifically mention how quiet it is and there's this from the review I linked;
"This Radeon HD 5850 employs a custom heat sink that ASUS claims to run up to 20% cooler and up to 35% quieter than reference 5850's."
So I doubt it would be an issue.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 16, 2010 2:58:39 PM

And you have to remember Slayer that the stock HD5850 reaches about 75c with a 45% fan speed. That is very inaudible, and with a non-reference cooler, you'll have no trouble cooling anything unless you have 2x GTX480s and make a sandwich out of it, :p .
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May 16, 2010 2:58:39 PM

jyjjy said:
I believe the Vapor-X does not allow you to raise the core voltage which will probably limit you to an OC in the 850-900 mhz area rather than 1ghz+ the DirectCu card allows for. As for the noise factor a lot of the reviews on newegg for the card specifically mention how quiet it is and there's this from the review I linked;
"This Radeon HD 5850 employs a custom heat sink that ASUS claims to run up to 20% cooler and up to 35% quieter than reference 5850's."
So I doubt it would be an issue.


Thank you so much for the advice. The ASUS DirectCu 5850 will be the card I'm going to get (if I can find one). I'll read the review anyway later; I was in a bit of a rush when I posted this morning.

Edit: Thank you too shadow! Your help was also invaluable!
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a c 130 U Graphics card
May 16, 2010 3:02:52 PM

Nice posted at the exact same second.

You won't regret the card. When overclocked (plenty of people have hit 1kcore/1.2kmem), it beats an HD5870. That, and you might be able to take it further. Just whatever you feel comfortable with and temperatures will allow, also considering noise.
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May 16, 2010 3:04:11 PM

Best answer selected by Slayer697.
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