don't know how to overclock yet, but just from reading the reviews in newegg about overclocking it sounds pretty easy. that and I'm sure there's forums here in toms hardware that will help me. if not I'll just make one. Thanks for the heads up, i had the 2 4870's in my cart in newegg. Decided to get some more opinions and this card looks super solid. over time it will get cheaper i'm sure and i can buy a second one.