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Some time over the last 8-10 weeks, I began having start up problems.
Specifically, I get the famous "black screen" noting that Windows couldn't
start up correctly, what would I like to do (i.e. safe mode, safe mode with
options, last known good config, start normally). It used to work when I
selected last known good config, first shot, now it takes between 3-4
attempts. AND sometimes it works with start windows normally, sometimes last
known good config. Yes, I have restored the system to points way back, no
change, the problem continues. No, I have no idea what I could have loaded
that would start this problem, but I pretty have installed next to nothing in
months. My guess is that this is something MS installed by way of an update
or the like, but I have no idea where to start. Obviously, three or better
start up attempts is not how I want to start my day, but up until now, it has
been more of a nuisance than anything. Any ideas?
 
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Try a repair install as follows:

NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.

Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to enter
the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. Save
your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will reboot.

When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a message
instructing you
to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
you see this be sure to
hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system fails
to boot from the CD, it's too
late, you'll need to reboot and try again.

Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.

Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
"Setup Windows,"
NOT "Repair Windows Installation.

The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
on, follow the screens.

Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, only an option to
reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is caused by damaged
boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also note, in the
instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you have placed the XP CD,
replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on your system, "K" is
simply an example.

Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is the section I told
you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to the Recovery
Console to perform the function below), and if the CD letter is say K: give
these commands

COPY K:\i386\ntldr C:
COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C:
(two other files needed - just in case)
ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
DEL C:\boot.ini
BootCfg /Rebuild

Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if you can access XP as
sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you still cannot access
XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install instructions at the beginning
of this message.

If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow you to perform the
above
among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting all
files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"MB" <MB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B15C154B-7A80-48C0-9862-262696509525@microsoft.com...
> Some time over the last 8-10 weeks, I began having start up problems.
> Specifically, I get the famous "black screen" noting that Windows couldn't
> start up correctly, what would I like to do (i.e. safe mode, safe mode
> with
> options, last known good config, start normally). It used to work when I
> selected last known good config, first shot, now it takes between 3-4
> attempts. AND sometimes it works with start windows normally, sometimes
> last
> known good config. Yes, I have restored the system to points way back, no
> change, the problem continues. No, I have no idea what I could have
> loaded
> that would start this problem, but I pretty have installed next to nothing
> in
> months. My guess is that this is something MS installed by way of an
> update
> or the like, but I have no idea where to start. Obviously, three or
> better
> start up attempts is not how I want to start my day, but up until now, it
> has
> been more of a nuisance than anything. Any ideas?
 

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I have an upgrade CD, my system was upgraded from Win98.

I will give this a shot, thank you very much for the quick response.

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Try a repair install as follows:
>
> NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
> something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
> over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
> you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
>
> Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
> actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
> CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
> system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to enter
> the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
> instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
> see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
> the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. Save
> your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will reboot.
>
> When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a message
> instructing you
> to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
> you see this be sure to
> hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system fails
> to boot from the CD, it's too
> late, you'll need to reboot and try again.
>
> Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
> asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
> wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
> setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.
>
> Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
> with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
> using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
> "Setup Windows,"
> NOT "Repair Windows Installation.
>
> The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
> press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
> will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
> version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
> install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
> on, follow the screens.
>
> Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, only an option to
> reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is caused by damaged
> boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also note, in the
> instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you have placed the XP CD,
> replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on your system, "K" is
> simply an example.
>
> Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is the section I told
> you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to the Recovery
> Console to perform the function below), and if the CD letter is say K: give
> these commands
>
> COPY K:\i386\ntldr C:
> COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C:
> (two other files needed - just in case)
> ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
> DEL C:\boot.ini
> BootCfg /Rebuild
>
> Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if you can access XP as
> sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you still cannot access
> XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install instructions at the beginning
> of this message.
>
> If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
> either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow you to perform the
> above
> among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
> routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting all
> files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.
>
>
> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> "MB" <MB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B15C154B-7A80-48C0-9862-262696509525@microsoft.com...
> > Some time over the last 8-10 weeks, I began having start up problems.
> > Specifically, I get the famous "black screen" noting that Windows couldn't
> > start up correctly, what would I like to do (i.e. safe mode, safe mode
> > with
> > options, last known good config, start normally). It used to work when I
> > selected last known good config, first shot, now it takes between 3-4
> > attempts. AND sometimes it works with start windows normally, sometimes
> > last
> > known good config. Yes, I have restored the system to points way back, no
> > change, the problem continues. No, I have no idea what I could have
> > loaded
> > that would start this problem, but I pretty have installed next to nothing
> > in
> > months. My guess is that this is something MS installed by way of an
> > update
> > or the like, but I have no idea where to start. Obviously, three or
> > better
> > start up attempts is not how I want to start my day, but up until now, it
> > has
> > been more of a nuisance than anything. Any ideas?
>
>
>
 
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You're welcome, good luck.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"MB" <MB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C87CDB85-F0F5-46B4-9D55-813B14B4ABE6@microsoft.com...
>I have an upgrade CD, my system was upgraded from Win98.
>
> I will give this a shot, thank you very much for the quick response.
>
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Try a repair install as follows:
>>
>> NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
>> something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to
>> start
>> over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed
>> up,
>> you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
>>
>> Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
>> actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
>> CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
>> system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to
>> enter
>> the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually
>> has
>> instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
>> see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
>> the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence.
>> Save
>> your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will
>> reboot.
>>
>> When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a
>> message
>> instructing you
>> to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
>> you see this be sure to
>> hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system
>> fails
>> to boot from the CD, it's too
>> late, you'll need to reboot and try again.
>>
>> Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a
>> reference
>> asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
>> wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
>> setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.
>>
>> Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a
>> screen
>> with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
>> using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
>> "Setup Windows,"
>> NOT "Repair Windows Installation.
>>
>> The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you
>> to
>> press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement.
>> Setup
>> will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
>> version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
>> install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
>> on, follow the screens.
>>
>> Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, only an option
>> to
>> reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is caused by damaged
>> boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also note, in the
>> instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you have placed the XP
>> CD,
>> replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on your system, "K"
>> is
>> simply an example.
>>
>> Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is the section I
>> told
>> you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to the Recovery
>> Console to perform the function below), and if the CD letter is say K:
>> give
>> these commands
>>
>> COPY K:\i386\ntldr C:
>> COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C:
>> (two other files needed - just in case)
>> ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
>> DEL C:\boot.ini
>> BootCfg /Rebuild
>>
>> Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if you can access XP
>> as
>> sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you still cannot
>> access
>> XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install instructions at the
>> beginning
>> of this message.
>>
>> If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
>> either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow you to perform
>> the
>> above
>> among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
>> routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting
>> all
>> files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> "MB" <MB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B15C154B-7A80-48C0-9862-262696509525@microsoft.com...
>> > Some time over the last 8-10 weeks, I began having start up problems.
>> > Specifically, I get the famous "black screen" noting that Windows
>> > couldn't
>> > start up correctly, what would I like to do (i.e. safe mode, safe mode
>> > with
>> > options, last known good config, start normally). It used to work when
>> > I
>> > selected last known good config, first shot, now it takes between 3-4
>> > attempts. AND sometimes it works with start windows normally,
>> > sometimes
>> > last
>> > known good config. Yes, I have restored the system to points way back,
>> > no
>> > change, the problem continues. No, I have no idea what I could have
>> > loaded
>> > that would start this problem, but I pretty have installed next to
>> > nothing
>> > in
>> > months. My guess is that this is something MS installed by way of an
>> > update
>> > or the like, but I have no idea where to start. Obviously, three or
>> > better
>> > start up attempts is not how I want to start my day, but up until now,
>> > it
>> > has
>> > been more of a nuisance than anything. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>