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May 19, 2010 1:53:41 PM

So I'm currently looking at doing a step upgrade to my computer (financial reasons) and I'm looking at the PowerColor PCS+ HD5830 PCI-e 2.1 card. I'm running an Asrock 4Coredual-SATA2 motherboard with the PCI-e 1.0 4X slot and an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600. I'm also currently running an AGP HD2400 so this was the first piece I was going to upgrade. I've been trying to look for information/bios updates to make sure the card will be supported on the board, but I cannot seem to find anything about using this card on the board. Anyone have any ideas on whether this will work?
May 19, 2010 3:37:57 PM

Xiaoyung said:
So I'm currently looking at doing a step upgrade to my computer (financial reasons) and I'm looking at the PowerColor PCS+ HD5830 PCI-e 2.1 card. I'm running an Asrock 4Coredual-SATA2 motherboard with the PCI-e 1.0 4X slot and an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600. I'm also currently running an AGP HD2400 so this was the first piece I was going to upgrade. I've been trying to look for information/bios updates to make sure the card will be supported on the board, but I cannot seem to find anything about using this card on the board. Anyone have any ideas on whether this will work?


*Edit: Forgot to say that my current Bios is L2.12. I saw an update for 2.20 on Asrock's own website, but I don't see anything about it supporting the 5XXX cards. Please help and thank you ahead of time.
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a c 189 U Graphics card
May 19, 2010 5:19:09 PM

many issue with pci-e 2.1 cards when installed on mobo with pci-e 1.0 slot...

What about your monitor? resolution?
And just a little advise, stay away from Power Color card, choose brand like HIS, Sapphire, XFX...
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May 19, 2010 5:26:25 PM

Samsung T240HD TV-Monitor. 1920 X 1200 Max Resolution. As for nerfing the card, I understand that that happens when a 2.1 card is installed to a 1.0 slot (getting a new MB and CPU when I have the money) but I was wondering if there was any new updates for this particular MB to try to get at least some compatibility to tie me over for a few months.

Stay away from Power Color? Any particular reason? All the reviews I've been looking at seem to give this particular card a pretty good rating.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 189 U Graphics card
May 19, 2010 5:38:31 PM

okay then, go on with HD5830...
You can go with Power Color, i just read there's many issue with that brand on different card... :) 
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May 19, 2010 8:03:07 PM

Yeah, I'd probably still just because the price on Newegg is pretty decent. Thanks for the info on the card, I'll poke around a little more on it.
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May 20, 2010 2:02:26 PM

Sooo... I guess my question still remains, has anyone tried or used a 5830 on this board or knows if the card is even supported? I've attempted to contact ASRock themselves, but they never got back to me....

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Well, I guess I missed the sale on the card while waiting for an answer.... So I guess my question will be a little more generic now. Will the Bios version 2.20 on the ASRock 4Coredual-SATA2 support the ATi HD5XXX PCIE cards?
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May 20, 2010 7:46:41 PM

Got my reply back. 5770 works fine, the 5830 SHOULD work but would recommend actual cards off supported list. Thanks guys.
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a c 189 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 2:26:55 AM

If 5770 works then i guess 5830 as well, but like you said, would recommend actual card off supported list... :) 
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May 21, 2010 3:29:18 PM

Get yourself a new (by new I mean 2nd hand) board off Ebay. You should be able to pick up a reasonable P35 board for £20-30 which would allow you to put your Quad up to around 3ghz and with a 5830 would probably do you for another 6mths/year. Those Asrock AGP PCIe crossover boards are terrible!
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 3:36:36 PM

Yeah, the PCIE slot is x4 which will definitely limit the card. You should just replace the motherboard. Your processor is still fine really, especially if you overclock it. You can get a decent LGA775 board for $60-80.
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May 24, 2010 4:23:15 PM

Well, like I said, I'm intending on doing a full overhaul of my system within the next few months. I'm planning on actually getting a i7 930 ($200 at Microcenter!) along with an X58A-UD3R motherboard. The only thing about all this, if I start doing the mb upgrade, I'd have to do my RAM and also my optical drives (still running really old EIDE drives) and that translates to ~1k worth of upgrades. As for my Q6600, I'm actually going to give it to my father (he's still running an Athlon XP 3200+ >.<;; ) so the Q6600 will be a significant boost for him especially since he doesn't need the high performance. Anyway, I've hit another snag financially so I probably won't be able to build my computer just yet. Anyway, thanks for all of the input from everybody. ^_^
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 4:58:23 PM

wa1 said:
If 5770 works then i guess 5830 as well, but like you said, would recommend actual card off supported list... :) 

This is not necessarily the case. The HD5830s that I'm seeing are all PCIE 2.1 while most HD5770s are 2.0. It's the 2.1 cards that tend to have issues with 1.0 motherboards unless there's been a bios update.
You may actually want to go for an HD5770 instead in your case. It is a better buy in general, will definitely work with your board and while it will still be limited by the x4 slot so will the HD5830 so they will probably perform similarly for your current situation. When you upgrade the computer you can grab another for crossfire. 2 HD5770s can give you performance similar to an HD5870 for less money. Here is a good article of the subject;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 7:00:04 PM

Xiaoyung said:
Stay away from Power Color? Any particular reason? All the reviews I've been looking at seem to give this particular card a pretty good rating.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get this one instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same price but it has free shipping, is a better brand, comes with COD:MW2 and supports voltage modification for core speeds over 1ghz if you OC(if you aren't going to OC don't bother with the HD5830, at stock speeds it is not worth the money over the HD5770.) Here is a review;
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd5830...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 7:01:52 PM

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I would stay away from that powercolor, overpriced and factory OC isnt really great.
This would be much better:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unfortunately the newer Sapphire cards don't let you bump up the voltage from what I've read.
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May 24, 2010 7:03:13 PM

Actually, the 5770 I'm considering is the HIS IceQ Turbo 5770 which is also a PCIE 2.1 card. :p  Because this particular card was running ~$200 I decided to look at the 5830 and came across the PowerColor card and it was on sale for roughly the same price. And in my research I'm finding that despite being a 128bit card the HIS 5770 performs almost equivalent to the stock 5830's (for most instances) and for now it's ~60 cheaper. I'm actually leaning back towards the 5770. Or I can wait a month and a half more and just do one massive upgrade all at once after I've saved up the money. >.<;; Thanks again guys.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 7:32:49 PM

Yeah, the HD5770 is a better deal in general. The HD5830 is 10-15% better at stock but it's not worth the extra money unless you get one that allows for voltage modification and OC the hell out of it. I would probably just go for the stock cooler myself as this card is quite power efficient and heat isn't much of an issue.
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June 2, 2010 2:17:19 PM

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May 20, 2011 6:54:08 PM

I put a SAPPHIRE 100282XTREME Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 into my 4coredual-sata2 r2.0 with modded BIOS 2.20A, an E6700 Wolfdale, 2X2GB of Twin-X DDR2-800, and 4 hard drives quad booting XP 32-bit, Vista 32-bit, 7 32-bit, and 7 64-bit. I removed my HD 4870 512MB and replaced it with this without uninstalling any drivers, and all Operating Systems found the correct drivers with exception to XP which I had to go get the HDMI audio drivers. After a reboot on all systems I had a fully functioning system without any black screens, blue screens, reboots, or any other anomalies. I played L4D2 for hours on Vista 32-bit and 7 64-bit without any issues. I played Burnout Paradise the Ultimate Box for 45 minutes on XP 32-bit also without a hiccup. The only system I did not game on is Windows 7 32-bit, but I do not expect any problems. This is just an FYI for anyone out there wondering if the HD 5850 cards will work in the Asrock 4coredual-sata2 motherboards. Your mileage may vary, as it seems I have had very good luck compared to many who can't even get HD 4*** cards to work.

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May 20, 2011 7:00:17 PM

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