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May 19, 2010 11:36:09 PM

Purchase Date: As soon as possible Budget: Somewhere between $150-$300 (The lower the better)

Usage: Not a hardcore gammer but am looking to build a HTPC. I still need to be able to play HD video (.mkv) as well as BluRay formats (m2ts). I also have started using Adobe CS4 Master Collection, so rendering and transcoding times need to be reasonable. The new card must have a HDMI output as I am hooking this up to my 50" Samsung Plasma. I could use a DVI-I to HDMI but would prefer not to.

Current GPU: EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB Power Supply: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W

Other System Specs: MOBO: m2n32-SLIDeluxe, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 6000+ 3.01GHz, 4x1GB DDR2 RAM, Running a Dual-Boot Windows XP Sp3 and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Creative SB X-Fi Sound Card, WD 150gb Raptor X HD and WD 320gb HD, 2 Samsung SH-S203N optical drives.

Preferred Websites: Newegg, Zipzoomfly, Directron, TigerDirect, etc.......anything really

Parts Preference: I have only used nVIDIA but am not opposed to ATI as long as it is compatible with my MOBO.

Overclocking: Havent used before, Maybe SLI or Crossfire: Not yet, but would like to in the future

Monitor Resolution: Currently use 1920x1200 on my HP 24" LCD, but am looking to display on my Samsung 50" Plasma.

Comments: Have heard great things about ATI's new graphics cards, but cant find any solid information about compatibility with my MOBO. The only MUST is and HDMI output.

Thanks for all of the help you all can provide.

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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 19, 2010 11:41:30 PM

If you want to stay with nvidia then a GTS250 or a GTX260 if you can get either at a fair price. A 5750/70 would do well and will use less power. I can only recommend them on power and performance.
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a b U Graphics card
May 19, 2010 11:46:18 PM

Radeon HD 5770 is great. At that resolution you could consider a 5850, but really even a 5770 is probably overkill if you don't game. A 5750 would also be good. What was wrong with your 8800GTS anyway? As long as your mobo has PCI express x16 version 2.0 (or 2.1) it will work fine.
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a c 235 U Graphics card
May 20, 2010 12:16:16 AM

you have a PCI Express x16 1.0 slot so avoid the 2.1 cards, the 2.0 will work just fine

purchase an ATI 5770 2.0 card as stated above

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May 20, 2010 12:30:20 AM

Thanks for the prompt replies.

jryan388 - nothing is really wrong with the card I have now, but being I am looking to connect to my Plasma, I would rather deal with an HDMI to HDMI rather than route a DVI-I to HDMI and then have to do analog audio.

All - I have been researching the ATI 5770 and 5750 and both seem to have exactly what I am looking for. Would you consider this a pretty good upgrade, or comparable to what I have now just with an HDMI output? Also, the ATI cards are compatible with my MOBO? (I have read a few posts which state BIOS issues) Recommend a manufacturer, is XFX reliable?
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a c 235 U Graphics card
May 20, 2010 12:39:11 AM

the 5770, even though its more expensive, is actually a better value for the price. It is a very good upgrade (as is the 5750) over your current card. The BIOS issues results from 2.1 cards running in PCI Express x16 1.0 slots, hence why I stated look for a 2.0 card. XFX makes fine cards and has an excellent warranty.
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May 20, 2010 1:16:22 AM

Now that I have thought about it, a dumb question popped up. In a normal setup, HDMI from say a DVD player to a TV will carry both audio and video. With a gpu that has an HDMI ouput, will it still carry the audio too, or just the video? Does the gpu have its own audio processor/codecs?
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 20, 2010 1:39:14 AM

ATI cards do have their own audio processing so far as I have read. I often look for the simplest and straight forward solution (helps with cable management).
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May 20, 2010 8:33:16 AM

Does or has anyone had the setup with a m2n32-sli deluxe mobo, with an ATI HD 5770 gpu? Any issues? Which BIOS did you flash to?

I understand that my MOBO is designed for nVIDIA, but I have seen people make the ATI work for them. Last thing I want to do is order a card and have to deal with RMA's.
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May 20, 2010 9:10:49 AM

Not exactly similar, but I was running an asus p5nsli (nforce 570i) with, at various times, an e2160(2.75GHz)&e5200(3.63GHz) with an HD4830(700/1050MHz) primary and 8800GS(680/1680/1080) physx with no problems at all in Win7 x64. Currently, I am using an MSI MS-7380 (nforce 750i sli) with the e5200(3.67Ghz) and powercolor HD5770(stock) and the same 8800GS. No extra effort was necessary for either setup. Don't worry about it.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 20, 2010 9:12:10 AM

ATI cards will definitely work, you just wont be able to SLI. The only issue could be if the PCIE slot is 1.0 and there isn't a recent BIOS update then you'll want to avoid the PCIE 2.1 versions of the card. Asus is a good brand so there probably is a recent BIOS anyway.
The HD5770 is a good choice for your resolution. It will be over twice as powerful as your current card for gaming and give you DX11 compatibility. It does carry sound over the HDMI cable, even recent formats like Dolby digital TrueHD 7.1 surround sound.
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May 21, 2010 5:17:51 PM

Ok so I ordered the XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 from newegg yesterday. I did overnight shipping on it, and it just came. I ordered the PCI Express 2.0 and they shipped me the 2.1. Can I still use it? If so, what else do I need to do, including BIOS update, to get it to function correctly? Thanks.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 5:39:34 PM

It is worth a shot. Dump it in and if it don't work then RMA.
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May 21, 2010 6:19:14 PM

Should I flash my BIOS with the 2209 beta, or just keep the 2205 that I have? I'll make sure to use Driver Cleaner and Driver Sweeper to remove all nVIDIA Drivers off the computer.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 6:21:04 PM

Na just leave it as is. Flashing a board is more risky than a gpu. Just pop it in and if it don't work then take it out and put back the old G80 then RMA the ATI.
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May 21, 2010 6:28:33 PM

Sounds good. I'm going to test it out and I'll post back the results.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 6:43:59 PM

nforce4max said:
Flashing a board is more risky than a gpu.

This is bad advice. People should not be warned against upgrading their BIOS. Barring a power outage during the rather quick process there isn't much risk. An update can often add features, increase compatibility, improve performance and/or improve stability of the system. If it doesn't work without the update he should certainly at least try the latest BIOS before RMAing.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 7:24:31 PM

jyjjy said:
This is bad advice. People should not be warned against upgrading their BIOS. Barring a power outage during the rather quick process there isn't much risk. An update can often add features, increase compatibility, improve performance and/or improve stability of the system. If it doesn't work without the update he should certainly at least try the latest BIOS before RMAing.


I only flash my bios if there is a need to, such as a problem or a micro code update either than that I leave as it as I had gotten it.
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May 21, 2010 8:05:37 PM

So I installed the new card, and everything works pretty good right now. I haven't taken my computer downstairs to the 50" Plasma yet, so not sure if the HDMI will work properly. Nothing so far to make me believe it won't.

jyjjy - Do you have an ASUS motherboard? If so, what BIOS update are you using, and has it significantly improved the stability of your system?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 8:35:43 PM

Nah, I'm not on using an ASUS board. If you have never updated your BIOS though I would recommend it. I'm sure you got it a few years ago so there's probably been a number of revisions.
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May 21, 2010 8:47:41 PM

I updated it about a year ago to the most current update that isn't a beta version. I'm going to research a little and see if any of the beta versions are whorth the flash.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
May 21, 2010 8:50:35 PM

I'd probably just wait then if it is still a beta and you aren't experiencing any immediate problems it might help with.
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May 31, 2010 2:37:03 PM

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