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June 28, 2010 9:18:59 PM

I am going to post each item I am ordering and I would just like to know some of your opinions. I'm building this PC for both gaming and some multi-tasking editing and programming. :bounce: 

Let me know if you feel like the items I am getting have better versions for around same price because I am looking to stay around $600 /w out the case, OS, mouse, keyboard, and what not. If you know of any better combos for me or better priced items PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

One last note* I plan to crossfire in the future with dual 5770 and possibly upgrade memory.


LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS50 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136167
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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$23.99


ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157198
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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-$15.00 Instant
$109.99
$94.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231275
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$99.99

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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^v Combo

hec X-Power Pro 600 600W Continuous @ 40°C ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817339025
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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-$10.00 Instant
-$26.00 Combo
$104.98
$68.98
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XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150447
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy

^v COMBO

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103808
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
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-$20.00 Combo
$329.98
$309.98\


total :: $607

CASE = ANTEC 900 (GOT FOR $60 WOOT!)
OS = WIN7 HOPEFULLY 64-BIT IF I CAN XFER OS FROM LAPTOP

More about : run order tonight

June 28, 2010 9:31:26 PM

I was thinking about swapping this with the PSU and Hard Drive

Thermaltake TR2 TRX-750M 750W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817153117
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$15.00 Instant
-$55.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$164.98
$94.98
June 28, 2010 9:37:34 PM

I'm not a fan of seagate. And obviously not an hec X-Power fan either. Go for thermaltake tr2 !

If no overclock scheduled you are fine.
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June 28, 2010 9:44:19 PM

Better parts that are cheaper overall if you're willing to deal with rebates.

Optical
$20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD
Spinpoint F3 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
G Skill Eco 1600 7-8-7-24 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU/PSU
xfx 5770 and OCZ 550 W 80+ $220 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MOBO/CPU/free game
GA-790-ud4 and Phenom ii x4 955 $250 w/ $15 MIR and $15 gift card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Promo code: MBTEN

Total: $644 before $35 MIR and $15 gift certificate.
$594 if you include the above

June 28, 2010 9:46:02 PM

The only really good thermaltake PSU's are the Toughpower line. The TR2 would be on par with a OCZ 80+.
June 28, 2010 10:34:28 PM

banthracis said:
The only really good thermaltake PSU's are the Toughpower line. The TR2 would be on par with a OCZ 80+.


The problem with those items are the OCZ PSU does not say crossfire ready and that motherboard is not as good as mine. Why the Eco-friendly memory??

thanks
June 28, 2010 10:38:08 PM

shockem said:
The problem with those items are the OCZ PSU does not say crossfire ready and that motherboard is not as good as mine. Why the Eco-friendly memory??

thanks


Do you have something against the environment? :non: 
June 28, 2010 10:39:36 PM

goalguy876 said:
Do you have something against the environment? :non: 


haha no I don't
June 29, 2010 12:41:07 AM

shockem said:
The problem with those items are the OCZ PSU does not say crossfire ready and that motherboard is not as good as mine. Why the Eco-friendly memory??

thanks



Whether something says it's Xfire ready or not doesn't mater. Look at the Amps for the 12v rail. That PSU is fine for xfire 5770's.

Um, GA is high end mobo's...asrock is low quality bargain stuff...

GA and Asus are top mobo makers in the world.


The ram kit is tighter timings, higher speed, at lower voltage. It's better in every way possible.


June 29, 2010 1:00:35 AM

banthracis said:
Whether something says it's Xfire ready or not doesn't mater. Look at the Amps for the 12v rail. That PSU is fine for xfire 5770's.

Um, GA is high end mobo's...asrock is low quality bargain stuff...

GA and Asus are top mobo makers in the world.


The ram kit is tighter timings, higher speed, at lower voltage. It's better in every way possible.



Hey how about this ram then G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO

Also do you know of any non red PSU's because my case and everthing is blue.. haha sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for the help. I changed to many of your options.

Thanks again
June 29, 2010 3:59:38 AM

shockem said:
how is that RAM slower? Just curious I thought the lower timings meant faster.

Thats true, but its only 1333MHz not 1600MHz the timing doesn't matter that much, the speed matters more :pt1cable: 
June 29, 2010 4:13:45 AM

Mr Pizza said:
Thats true, but its only 1333MHz not 1600MHz the timing doesn't matter that much, the speed matters more :pt1cable: 


haha nice didn't realize that stood for MHz

thanks for the info
June 29, 2010 6:37:18 AM

Mr Pizza said:
Thats true, but its only 1333MHz not 1600MHz the timing doesn't matter that much, the speed matters more :pt1cable: 

That is far from true. 1333mhz vs 1600mhz is a negligible performance difference. toms has had several articles about that. timings are far more important in this case
June 29, 2010 1:39:18 PM

ordcestus said:
That is far from true. 1333mhz vs 1600mhz is a negligible performance difference. toms has had several articles about that. timings are far more important in this case

But the timings are so close.. 7-8-7-24 vs 8-8-8-24... the MHz matters more the timings matter but... not a lot in this case if it was 9-9-9 then yeah...
June 29, 2010 1:45:38 PM

You're comparing 2 kits that are identical price.

1 is 7-8-7-24 DDR3 1600
the other is 7-7-7-21 DDR3 1333

1 of them is rated to run at 1600 speeds, the other isn't.
Incidentally, the DDR3 1600 kit will run at 7-7-7-21 at 1333 speeds fine when underclocked.

Given this info, there is no reason to get the slower kit.

For you slow people, its the equivalent of going to the car dealership as being told you can get a free upgrade to the 550 horsepower engine, and you say, no thanks, I'll stick with the 400 hp engine.
June 29, 2010 1:52:17 PM

banthracis said:
You're comparing 2 kits that are identical price.

1 is 7-8-7-24 DDR3 1600
the other is 7-7-7-21 DDR3 1333

1 of them is rated to run at 1600 speeds, the other isn't.
Incidentally, the DDR3 1600 kit will run at 7-7-7-21 at 1333 speeds fine when underclocked.

Given this info, there is no reason to get the slower kit.

For you slow people, its the equivalent of going to the car dealership as being told you can get a free upgrade to the 550 horsepower engine, and you say, no thanks, I'll stick with the 400 hp engine.

I would stick with the 400 HP engine because car dealerships try to trick you into paying something even though they said it was free :cry: 
June 29, 2010 1:59:40 PM

Hmm ok maybe car dealership was a bad example :( 
June 29, 2010 2:08:03 PM

banthracis said:
Hmm ok maybe car dealership was a bad example :( 

:lol: 
June 29, 2010 3:05:20 PM

ok i'm sorry i didn't realize the timings were so close like that. I was making a general point and i'll readthe previous posts more carefully.
and anyway a 400hp engine would probably have better gas mileage so i would take that one. cause 400 is more than enough for street driving. actually 250hp would be plenty.
June 29, 2010 4:37:55 PM

Fine since my initial analogy was fail, here's another one.

Your parent just won the lottery and offered to increase your allowance to $1600 a month, but you say no thanks, I'll stick with just $1,333 a month.
June 29, 2010 5:01:46 PM

Gah, this is going out of proportion. The point here is both products are same price. 1 is faster speed with and can run exact same timings as other when under clocked. Both use same voltage.

Therefor, the faster one is a better buy. Why pay same price for less?

It's like being offered a i7-930 and i7-960 for the same price. Obviously get the 960 since it's not costing you more.
June 29, 2010 6:07:46 PM

Right, sorry, I should have pointed out that was directed more at the original contention that speed is more important than timings, which the above articles refute.

Generally speaking, CAS 7 1333 MHz is the sweet spot for price/performance. If you can get faster timings or speed for approximately the same price, you should go for it. Paying $10 more for CAS 6 or 1600 MHz might be worth it. Paying $50 is almost certainly not. Getting it for the same price...absolutely go for it.
June 29, 2010 6:47:57 PM

i'll just officially suggest the 1600mhz ram with the 7 8 7 timings. what i meant is what cold sleep said that cas 7 1333 mhz is the sweet spot for performance/price.

And i'm sorry banthracis i could not resist pointing something else out. forgive me
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