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June 29, 2010 12:45:57 AM

So I posted a thread about a week or two ago regarding building a new computer that will be used primarily for gaming/watching movies etc (entertainment purposes). I came up with the following build. I would love some advice/criticism on what I can change to better my computer.


Intel Core i7-930 Socket 1366
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480
6GB Triple Channel DDR3 memory (Corsair)
80GB Intel Sandstorm Solid State Hard Disk
500GB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA3
SATA3, USB3 EVGA LGA1366 motherboard
Creative SoundBlaster x-Fi Titanium PCI-e Soundcard
Coolermaster Sniper ATX Tower
LG Blu-Ray ROM DVD/RW SuperMulti

I don't really know what monitor to get, I was thinking maybe something along the lines of:

LG W2486L Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor

or

Dell u2311h IPS monitor 1920x1080p

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated




I don't want the price to go any higher then what it is at, unless the item is really that much better then what I have listed.

Thanks!

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June 29, 2010 5:32:40 PM

Fill out form in sticky, link in my sig.

Fermi's isn't the best idea atm at MSRP. If you're getting a good combo out of it, maybe.

G Skill RAm kits are better. PI 6gb ddr3 1600 7-8-7-24 kit is $170. The Trident 6gb kit is $190 ATM.

No such things as an Intel Sandstorm...You probably mean an Intel X25-M 80gb.

Spinpoint F3 1tb drives are usually cheaper, and better performing, though depends on what country you're in.

A GA x58 UD3R would be a better buy for mobo.

Sound card's are pretty pointless these days.

Monitor suggestions are kinda useless without price, as feature wise most of the one in same price range are pretty much the same.
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June 29, 2010 6:34:24 PM

Hello!

My apologies for not reading the stickies before posting. Let me try this again..

Intel Core
i7-930 Socket 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



6GB Triple Channel DDR3 memory (Corsair)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Intel X25-M 80gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



500GB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



EVGA LGA1366 motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Creative SoundBlaster x-Fi Titanium PCI-e Soundcard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Coolermaster Sniper ATX Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




LG Blu-Ray ROM DVD/RW SuperMulti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitors:

LG W2486L Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Dell u2311h IPSmonitor 1920x1080p
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?s...


There are all the items that I had listed.


Sorry, but I'm not very knowledgable about computer parts and such; I had a friend help me build this one and I am just getting some second opinions on it. With that being said, what effect would the sound card have on the PC if it is "not needed?"

I am in the US, so would the spinpoint F3 1TB run better or no?

As for price range, I was only wanting to go anywhere from $1500-$2000 and I'm trying to keep it in that range.

And again, this computer will only be used for entertainment purposes (games, movies etc).





Edit: Forgot to add monitors
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June 29, 2010 6:43:18 PM

An f3 is better at transfering large files and the blacks have better response times. In other words the black is a better boot drive the f3 is a better storage drive. So I would go with the f3 in this case as bantracis said.

As for the mobo the one you listed doesn't have sataIII and usb3.0. The replacement of that board the FTW boards do.

Onboard sound is good as bantracis said but sound cards are better. I know of people who can see very major differences between the two. But of course if you don't have very good speakers there is no point in a sound card. So on that note which speakers do you have?
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June 29, 2010 8:42:02 PM

The WD black he linked is the old 250gb platters one. It does not perform better than the cheaper 500gb platter $55 F3 in any benchmark.

I swear we've been through this before...


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G Skill RAM kits are better. PI 6gb ddr3 1600 7-8-7-24 kit is $170. The Trident 6gb kit is $190 ATM.

A GA x58 UD3R would be a better buy for mobo. $210 w/ 10% promo code discount


Mobo combos with the 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Blue ray burner, y? If you want to play blue rays a reader is enough. Really no need to burn blue rays...


This Asus would be a better value for monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, you need a power supply.

Really no reason to go Nvidia, but if you insist for some odd reason, you can get this PSU/480combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


Personally for your budget I'd just go for a 5970 build.


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June 29, 2010 8:50:02 PM

Sorry I thought he linked a new one since it says sata3.

Also I never really saw the point of a 5970. It has a use in lan builds with limited slots or 1156 builds with again limited fast slots.

I mean really it's more than a hundred dollars more than the similarly performing 5850 CF. And if you're dead set on spending 700 for your GPU then why not 470 gtx sli. It's much faster, has 3d vision surround capability and CUDA.

And if you want upgradability then why not 480gtx? 3-way 480 kicks dual 5970's ass.
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June 29, 2010 9:20:59 PM

470gtx sli runs nearly 700 watts at stock. You could run quadfire 5970s for that much power. The power requirement of fermi's is pretty ridiculous.

I"m not gonna go into the whole Nvidia vs ati debate again, it's been beat to death enough.

Suffice to say, if you don't believe my word feel free to just PM any of the other veteran's in this section and they'll give you the same advice.
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June 29, 2010 9:58:14 PM

Why on earth are there so many ati fanboys around here. So refusing to debate uh? Isn't that surrendering?

470gtx sli consumes around 570watts with the entire system under stress which is nowhere near the 700 you claim it to be. 5870 crossfire consumes around 520.That is a very small difference. Benchmarks show that 470 sli performs like 5870 crossfire if not better with premature drivers. ANd those newer drivers improve performance by quite a bit(5-10percent orso). Not to mention 470 gtx sli is quite a bit cheaper.

And 470gtx sli uses quite a bit more power than a 5970. But also performs far better at the same price so realy what do you expect?

Then heat you would argue. 470 gtx sli runs a few degrees hotter than a 5970. 4 degrees hotter at most. And fermi can withstand far greater temperatures than it's competition.

And next you say ask an expert. ISn't the system builder marathon done by experts? Haven't they gone for 470gtx sli?

You can rant all you wish about how ati owns the mainstream gamer market. But this nvidia dominates this.

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June 29, 2010 10:04:43 PM

banthracis said:
470gtx sli runs nearly 700 watts at stock. You could run quadfire 5970s for that much power. The power requirement of fermi's is pretty ridiculous.

I"m not gonna go into the whole Nvidia vs ati debate again, it's been beat to death enough.

Suffice to say, if you don't believe my word feel free to just PM any of the other veteran's in this section and they'll give you the same advice.


You may have a fancy picture of some green thing and have the title of "veteran". But that doesn't make you smarter or better than the rest of us.

And please don't write downright lies about nvidia like saying that 470gtx sli consumes 700watts. A veteran really should know better.
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June 29, 2010 11:31:38 PM

You really have to do this every time don't ya?

SLI GTX 470 and i7-930 sock setting, 684 watts on CPU + GPU load.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/overclock-cpu-gpu,review-...

Guru doesn't define what they mean by "stress" Tom's clearly defines it as 8 threads of prime 95 and furmark. That's why Tom's numbers are taken with a higher regard.

There is a reason Nvidia recommends 700-100W PSU for SLi 470's.
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html

I couldn't less about my title. That's why I tell him to feel free to ask any of the other veterans here.

You against me it's my word vs yours (well I do have SOUND scientific data to back my claims). But if other major contributor here says the same thing, then clearly there's something wrong with your opinion.
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June 30, 2010 7:51:18 AM

Okayyyy.. so you say toms is very respected yet you ignore the fact that they chose for 470sli. Not only that but those are clear benchmarks showing the 470gtx sli setup clearly wins against the 5970 setup in games . Not to mention that 5970 was factory OC'd and in the overclocking comparisons can't really be taken into account due to the fact that the 3000dollar build has watercooling.

And guru3d also concludes that 470gtx sli is an amazing option. And they may not be terribly clear on what they mean by load but they sure do know more about computers than the both of us.

480gtx and 470gtx are not amazing single cards but when SLI'd they are better value than their competitors.

Why can you simply not accept the fact that ati isn't the best at everything?

You were right about the power consumption but my comparisons remain correct meaning that 470gtx sli is a far better choice than 5870 CF. Know I still need to convince you of the 5970.
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June 30, 2010 8:02:26 AM

and yes I am going to do this everytime. It may be very tiring but this is someone's computer we are talking about and that is important.

I do the same with caviar blacks vs spinpoint f3's. As long as someone out there agrees with me(Tom's in both case they opted for 470gtx sli and WD black. They chose for the f3 in the last one due to budget constraint but they would have preferred a black. And they do write literally that WD black is a faster drive).

I will go about and terrorize these forums until everyone knows that nvidia is useful and blacks are better than f3's(as boot drives I still reccomend f3's as storage due to the slightly better transfer rates)
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