Which is the better motherboard for a mostly gaming pc

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Hello, im building a new pc and about to buy a motherboard i came to 2 choices but cant tell which one is better, since its my first build. Intel BOXDX58SO2 Socket LGA1366 Motherboard thats the first one and this is the link for it http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=4070

this is the second one ASUS P6X58D Premium Motherboard and this is the link http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=4070

so which one is better, and if u can suggest a better one for around the same price that would be amazing and thanks for ur help
 
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i really have no idea what that means about the chip set, could you please give me a link for a motherboard that you would say is good and a cpu that would be good for it and for gaming, the cpu should be around 300$. if you could do that, it would be amazing. thank you
 
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What @rolli59 I assume meant is for gaming the Hyper-Threading of the i7-2600 series, {K} for gaming, offers little benefits, so the i5-2500K is the ideal + cheaper CPU for 'Gaming' CPU.

An excellent, not available yet like most P67's, Gaming P67 MOBO is the EVGA P67 SLI http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=130-SB-E675-KR&family=Motherboard%20Family&series=Intel%20P67%20Series%20Family&sw=5

Otherwise the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701
 
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thank you guys for your help, i have one more question: the ASUS p8p67 says Memory Supported:
DDR3 1333MHz
DDR3 1066MHz
DDR3 1600MHz
DDR3 1866MHz (OC)
DDR3 2133MHz (OC)
DDR3 2200MHz (OC)

does that mean that i should get the 1600MHz or the 2200MHz will work fine, since i dont know if i will OC. so what im asking is will 2200MHz work to its potential without OC or should i just get the 1600MHz
 
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you can even use 1333 mhz..even with memory running at this speed it will work fine..I would recommend 1600mhz..but, you can get away with 1333.. Primarily for gaming the p8p67 is good..but, for a few extra dollars you can get the P8p67 pro, which has a few extra features you may find useful in the future...like, sli (combining to identical cards to increase video game performance)
 
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thank you the article was very helpful, ive been looking at different motherboards by ASUS and saw this one Maximus IV Extreme
REV 3.0 - New P67 B3 Revision
The Best Overclocking Experience on Intel P67 with ROG Motherboard

it does cost more then any others that i saw, but since im not planing on getting a new computer any time soon would you saw that it would be a good motherboard for the future, or should i just go with the cheaper ones
 
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I post the following often, 'basic' is code name for don't buy. I really would want at least a 8+2 phase MOBO, the more the phases the longer the life. Example 4+1 80% load on phases, 8+2 40% load, 12+2 27% load, etc.

My pick performance, options, 'future proof', SLI/CF, potential SLI & PCIe SSD, etc id the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE or the P8P67 PRO close 2nd. 3-WAY on P67 'to me' with it having limited lanes {compared to X58 & forthcoming X68} makes little sense. 2-WAY with a single monitor is just fine 2-WAY with x8/x8 for 'most GPUs.'

ASUS:
Maximus IV Extreme {2~3WAY, x8...x8, Marvell 9182 [ASUS typo? 9128] RAID 0/1, eSATA, BT, Dual Intel LAN}
P8P67 WS Revolution {2~3WAY & 4-WAY Quadro only, x8...x8, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, Dual Intel LAN}

P8P67 DELUXE {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, eSATA, BT, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN, USB3 Ft Panel}

P8P67 EVO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA, BT, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN, BT}
P8P67 PRO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA, BT}

SABERTOOTH P67 {2-WAY, x8/x8, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA}
P8P67-M PRO {basic} {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 covered, eSATA}
P8P67 LE {basic}
P8P67 {basic}
P8P67-M {basic}

asus_p8p67_spec.jpg


Building Chart: {X68 delayed to Q4 2011 - RE P67/H67 recall sales time}
Build_Chart_Q1-2011-1.jpg
 
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so the maximus 4 is the best one but not really needed? im bad with all the specs on them, trying to learn about this stuff. but back to the motherboard, does the maximus worth what it costs, and should i buy it
 
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Currently, arguably the 'best available' P67 are:
$374 ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME
$340 Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7
$TBD EVGA P67 Classified

However, I feel they're a waste of money for MOST people. The NF200 is a chipset that essentially funnels psuedo x8/x16 lanes into the {x8 up to x12 native} to use 3-WAY+. Therefore, if I wanted a 3/4-WAY, like the P55 or P67 16~20 available lanes, I'd use and wait for the X68 + SB 6/8-core with 32+ available native lanes; see Building Chart above.

Q - Why are you interested in the ultra-high-end P67 MOBOs?
Q - What GPUs are you looking to use?
Q - Are you considering a PCIe SSD?
Q - What's your Total Budget?
Q - What are you going to be using the 'P67' for - purpose?
 
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Arguably indeed... I've owned all of the above motherboard's (excluding the EVGA) and they perform indentically. The UD7 and M4E share similarities as far as build quality, but as for performance they are the same. Exclude the M4E from your list! This is a mainstream socket and you don't need this expensive motherboard...perhaps if you were doing Dice runs or LN2 it may be of use..but I'm assuming your using this for gaming/editing/browsing etc

The UD7 is also a very nice board..but, it unnecessary..far too much money for features that you won't use at all.

The best board to get, and still have a great amount of features..is definitely the Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard. I've built a few systems for people with this board, and it's great! It has lower price tag vs the other flagship motherboards, but the performance is up there... just take a look at this

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701&Tpk=p8p67%20deluxe
A lot of people like this board, including myself. Put the money you save on an ssd, or better video card (assuming your gaming)...or put the money towards school, or whatever...Just don't get the flagship boards...400 dollars for a mainstream socket motherboard? Absolute absurdity!
 
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to answer ur questions 1) ive been told that P67 is one of the best for gaming, and as u said ultra high end because i want it to last me for a long time as in being able to upgrade other parts for a long period of time.
2)right now i have a GeForce 9800 GT Series - SF-PX98GT1024D3-HML (http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=76&sub_id=219) but im looking to upgrade to something like Sparkle SX560T1024D5MH GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, HDMI, DirectX 11, SLI Ready, Dual-Slot (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7210574&CatId=3669)
3)i have no idea what PCIe SSD is
4)my budget is around 1300, i need to get the most important parts right now such as cpu, mobo, and ram, and a case. cause i have a video card as i said before and a power supply 550W.
5)and the purpose is to play games, do school work, and internet, but the most important is basically playing latest shooters
 
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Exactly as I though...btw..pice-ssd is something like the Revo-drive...you don't need it! overpriced, and using a standard ssd will yield the same results..

Here is what will last you a long time!
P8P67 Deluxe
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701&Tpk=p8p67%20deluxe
Ripjaws X Ram designed for the sb platform
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231443&cm_re=g_skill_ripjaws_x-_-20-231-443-_-Product
GTA 560ti Direct CuII (This has great cooling!)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424&cm_re=gtx_560_ti-_-14-121-424-_-Product

So, save some money with the options I've outlined...You will actually feel really good with the money saved..and with the 2500k you'll have a very long lasting gaming machine on your hands!
 
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yeah it is for gaming mostly, i thought that the M4E was a bit expansive but since im building for the future i was just wondering, but u and the others here explained it very well so now i have a much better understanding of what i need. so im prolly gonna get the P8P67 Deluxe
 
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not probably...will! lol..it's a very good motherboard..no doubt the M4E would last..but it's like purchasing a very expensive car that hits 300mph but only using 150...the deluxe will make you happy! put the extra money you save on not getting the maximus 4 extreme on a better video card..that's what will let you play future games like battlefield 3 with great success
 
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thank you for your help and for some reason the links dont work, it goes to newegg.com but doesnt show the actual product so if could just put the fool name of the products of the memory and the video card, and would u say i would need a new power supply because mine is only 550W
 
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Based upon above the ideal MOBO is the P8P67 PRO or the SABERTOOTH P67.

PCIe SSD - currently there are PCIe SSDs faster than ANY SATA SSD by a factor of TWICE {1+GB/s} the limits of SATA2 300 MB/s and SATA3 ~600MB/s. However, today the PCIe SSD are very expensive $1,000+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008120&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&SrchInDesc=Z-Drive&Page=1&PageSize=20

P8P67 PRO vs SABERTOOTH P67
P8P67 PRO 2-WAY GTX 560 Ti + {PhysX GPU or PCIe SSD}
SABERTOOTH P67 2-WAY GTX 560 Ti / maxed-out

Keep in mind that the GTX 560 Ti is limited to 2-WAY period; cannot ever 3-WAY. Also, if you're primarily a Gamer then the i5-2500K is ideal as stated above.

PSU if the plan is to SLI the GTX 560 Ti then look at a 850W or larger PSU. A single GTX 560 Ti 550W is the bare minimum for OC.
 
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which mobo would u recommend the deluxe or the sabertooth
 
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so i think i know what ill be getting so i just wanted ur opinion on it so this is the system: cooler master HAF 932,
Asus sabertuth P67
intel core i5-2500k
g.skill ripjaws x series 8gb
corsair tx series-950tx 950w
sparkle GeForce GTX 570

so what do u think? any suggestions about any accessories like fans or something. and if u think i should change something in the setup^^^ please tell me
 
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it looks good..funny thing is I owned a sabertooth as well..I didn't want to keep it because I didn't like the idea of dust coming into the system...so, I got the deluxe..the above you have is excellent! go for it....but, like i said...8ram is excessive..get 4gb of ram if your gaming only...you'll save money
 
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what do you mean dust coming into the system and do you know what kind of cpu fan i would need
 
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