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July 1, 2010 5:03:54 AM

alright heres my computer

AMD phenom II 955 BE @3.2
OCZ platinum ram ddr2-800, working on getting stable at 1066
his turbo 5870 875/1225
biostar TA790GXE 128m 790GX mobo
OCZ modxstream 700w psu
hitachi deskstar 500gb hdd

only real important parts, i game at 1920x1080, i seem to be gettign lower fps than a lot of benchmarks ive seen of my card, even when i had my 5770's crossfire, on res 5 i ran the fixed benchmark with this system and got a fps of 73.3, i see on benchmarks online that people get 103 fps, i absolutely cannot figure this out, also the worst one is on Battlefield bad company 2 in dx11 mode, i only get ~30 fps, all high no AA no AF, in dx9 mode i get in the 70's 80's, my 5770's xfire were basically the same way, so im lost, i have no idea where these performance losses are going, anyone help me out

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July 1, 2010 5:40:19 AM

So you're asking why your fps isn't noticeably higher with a 5870 compared with 2 5770s?
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July 1, 2010 6:08:38 AM

well with either really, im getting a lower fps in general, ok with the 5870 now, my pci-e link is running at x8 with a single card, i cant get itt to run at x16, which i know with a more powerful card will make a diference, my mobo came with a little chip that goes into my spare pci-e slot to make it run at x16, but for some reason it is not working, im going to give it another shot tho, alright got it to work at x16, made absolutely no differnece and idk why, did a little research and some cards see like 20 fps increase form x8 to x16, gah idk what to do, this is bothering me, ive tried overclocking, took my cpu to 3.675 and icreased fps by 4, idk need any info that may help to fix this at all?
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July 2, 2010 8:24:27 AM

Not cpu based. Can you post some links to compare rated fps with what you're getting?

In terms of 2 5770s being about the same as a 5870, that's true, their performance in games that use Crossfire is similar.
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July 2, 2010 9:16:16 PM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422...



i just did the same thing dx10 and got 75 fps, im not oc'd to 4.0 GHZ, and i dont have ddr3 ram, but i dont think ddr3 ram will make a 30 fps difference, im not worried about the 5770's being similar to 5870, its the fact that even when i had the 5770's theyre fps was rather lower than it should, but the big thing that still worries me is dx11 on bad company, only getting 30 fps, it was the same as with my xfired 5770's

the second link shows dx10 with 8xaa and it still averages 94 fps @ 1920x1200, and im playing on 1920x1080, i turn on 8xmsaa and get 72 fps, so im not sure whats going on at all
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July 4, 2010 12:51:03 PM

Have you got the latest drivers for your card?

The better RAM would help, but as you said I don't think it would make a 30fps difference.

If the drivers don't do anything and I don't think it's RAM making a massive difference, I'm not too sure.....
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July 4, 2010 5:13:36 PM

yes i have the latest 10.6 drivers from ati, made no difference at all, meh, maybe ill just smash it, it fixes everything
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July 5, 2010 5:09:03 AM

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meh, maybe ill just smash it, it fixes everything

:lol: 

Unless one of the wiser forum members knows what the problem is...

I would think that some fast DDR3 RAM would increase fps by... less than 10...

You could give the system to me and then get a new one :D 

Are you running lots of things in the background? Or just the game by itself..? Just need to make sure of some of the basics.
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July 5, 2010 11:40:06 AM

ya ive ried using the programs like game booste that gets rid of all background progrmas not used for games, its still no help or anything
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July 13, 2010 7:55:50 AM

craciunator said:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422...



i just did the same thing dx10 and got 75 fps, im not oc'd to 4.0 GHZ, and i dont have ddr3 ram, but i dont think ddr3 ram will make a 30 fps difference, im not worried about the 5770's being similar to 5870, its the fact that even when i had the 5770's theyre fps was rather lower than it should, but the big thing that still worries me is dx11 on bad company, only getting 30 fps, it was the same as with my xfired 5770's

the second link shows dx10 with 8xaa and it still averages 94 fps @ 1920x1200, and im playing on 1920x1080, i turn on 8xmsaa and get 72 fps, so im not sure whats going on at all



1. scan your computer for viruses

2. clean all your crap, i recommend you to use this one,
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

(OPTIONAL)
3. update the BIOS of your motherboard

4. check the temperature of your system while idle and gaming using this
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

5. download the latest drivers for your graphics card
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

6. overclock your processor
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2754/6

7. before playing close all other applications running on background


note:
Core i7 is alot faster than Phenom II especially when overclock to 4Ghz
5870 scales well on a faster processor
as you can see here
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...


edit: personally as long as the game is smooth and playable, i wouldn't mind those benchmarks stuff


the first link you provided, the guy says on his sig "Core i7 930 3002B000"

on the second link you provided on the bottom part it says
"CrossFire’d 5870s are fast enough to peg the speedo on our 4 GHz Core i7 at 1680x1050 and 1920x1200—with the highest details and 8xAA. "
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July 13, 2010 2:15:01 PM

Using a biostar mobo and HIS GPU doesn't help either.

x16 vs x8 doesn't make a difference unless you're using a 2 gpu's on a stick card. IE 5970.

DL GPU-z and post some actual numbers of what your GPU's are doing.
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July 14, 2010 3:32:44 AM

ive done all of that, i clean my computer every day, my temps are beyond fine, i have corsair H50 liquid cooling, my 5870 never hits 65C, ive overclocked to 3.85GHz and it made a difference of 3fps, i know a i7 would be way better, but im not blowing bunches of money on a new mobo and cpu, everything on my computer is fine, it just isnt as fast as it should be for some reason
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July 14, 2010 10:48:20 AM

craciunator said:
ive done all of that, i clean my computer every day, my temps are beyond fine, i have corsair H50 liquid cooling, my 5870 never hits 65C, ive overclocked to 3.85GHz and it made a difference of 3fps, i know a i7 would be way better, but im not blowing bunches of money on a new mobo and cpu, everything on my computer is fine, it just isnt as fast as it should be for some reason



unfortunately the only thing you can do is overclock your video card to the max to gain more FPS
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July 15, 2010 3:31:03 AM

ive done that too :) 
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July 15, 2010 3:49:18 AM

craciunator said:
ive done that too :) 


hmmm, im running out of ideas

you could try doing this stuff to see if it will work


some games i played like GTA IV, NFS Shift, Etc is slow when played by default, but when i use the latest patch of the game(update) it gave me performance boost


if you have a spare drive, try to install a new operating system and install your game in that one and compare the FPS you get because from my personal experience, the Operating system gets slower when it is older thus reducing the performance of your games



if you have another computer, try to install your graphics card and your game and see how it will perform
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July 19, 2010 12:06:17 AM

thats completely normal.. alot ofppl are complaining about fps drops with newer ati cards and the 10.6 drivers.. i wouldnt sweat it.. throw bfbc2 on dx10 and game out like that.. theres not really any noticeable difference playin with dx11 in bf anyways.. wait for the new drivers im sure youll see an increase.. even if you have to put it on med settings.. as long as your getting 60+ fps your playing smooth as butter..
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