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July 1, 2010 7:00:06 AM



Thank you guys very much for your time.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week
BUDGET RANGE: 1500-1800 after rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: active daytrading; gaming
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: mouse; keyboard; stand for quad monitors

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: no preference

PARTS PREFERENCES: I've heard ATI graphics cards with quad I7 best for trading but very open to suggestions.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: probably if the new eyefinity graphics cards cannot handle 4 monitors with one card.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920X1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Hello,
I'm looking to build a computer that can do well with graphic intense games in my down time and during the day excel at being extremely responsive with little to no lag while have several programs and explorer windows open with constantly streaming data for day trading. Monitors and stand not included in the price but would love some input in regards to monitors as well. I already ordered a stand on amazon that can support 4X 24 inch monitors but felt 20-22 inch would be best related to eye strain.
July 1, 2010 8:01:57 AM

Is 4 monitors absolutely mandatory? Because you're right, 1 Eyefinity card can only do 3 monitors.

Actually scratch that I believe there is a 5870 that can do 6 monitors I think.

If you're budget of 1800 is also supposed to cover 4 monitors you're going to be cutting it a bit close
July 1, 2010 8:09:09 AM

not including monitors
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July 1, 2010 8:24:49 AM

Oh crap I did it with monitors included in price. Well now theres an extra 600 dollars...
July 1, 2010 8:32:31 AM

What are you looking for in a case? Besides airflow the case is very specific to each person.

Full Tower? Side window? Lighting?
July 1, 2010 8:44:27 AM

Honestly I don't really have a preference for the case. Probably whatever will give the best noise dampening and air flow. Size really doesn't matter to me as I am dedicating a full section of my spare bedroom for my setup.
July 1, 2010 8:45:24 AM

Ok so here's the build with shipping to AZ the total cost comes to 1797.53

CPU+PSU combo: i7-930 + 750W Corsair Modular PSU 419.00 (10.00 MIR)
OS: Win7 64 bit 94.99
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB 54.99
DVD: Samsung DVD-RW 20.00
GPU: Gigabyte 5870 2 GB supports 6 mini-display port 499.00
Case: HAF X Case 200.00
RAM: 6 GB Triple Channel DDR3-1600 CAS 7 169.00
Mobo: ASUS 1366 Motherboard USB 3.0/SATA 6 GB/s with 16x/16x/1x PCI-E 2.0 299.00

You will need mini display port adapters, I'll look into what exactly you need and cost.
July 1, 2010 8:50:13 AM

I take that back the GPU comes with 5 different adapters. 2 Miniport to DVI, 2 Miniport to HDMI.

So you shouldn't need the 80.00 for more adapters :) 
July 1, 2010 8:51:29 AM

Looks good cmcghee358 but seeing as the OP wants system resposiveness I would try fit in an ssd somewhere. MAybe even a 32gb one with HDD boost.

As for the GPU I don't see the point of paying 100 extra for multiple monitor support if you can simply crossfire. I'd crossfire 5770's or 5830's.

I also don't like the looks of the hafx and seeing as the OP won't OC the cooling doesn't really have a point either. I like the lian-li pc-p50 very much it's very good quality.

But why such an expensive mobo with no overclocking in mind? a ga-x58a-ud3r should do fine for his needs.

The rest looks good
July 1, 2010 8:53:25 AM

When I was reading through some of the other threads about trading setups they discussed the need for 10k rpm in the hard drive is this really necessary or will the triple channel ram be able to handle the multiple browser windows and program streaming?
July 1, 2010 8:54:08 AM

Well he made mention that he would potentially be building a 2nd PC for gaming. Also mentioned he would be gaming on the machine.

I'd say kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make 1 PC.

I picked the motherboard because it supports 16x/16x which will pay off in the long run if he ever Xfires.

I personally always consider Intel builds to be too expensive but it just seemed right in this instance.
July 1, 2010 8:56:12 AM

HDD speed is only going to affect how quickly applications load. For having mulitple windows thats where the 6 GB of memory will come into play.
July 1, 2010 8:58:00 AM

Sorry for the confusion this is a dual purpose computer for both gaming and trading.
July 1, 2010 9:00:23 AM

A 10000rpm drive is expensive for what it is. If you want speed as you've mentioned then an ssd would be the way to go.

and to cmcghee358 I agree it's better to make one allrounder pc. But 5830 crossfire is cheaper and performs better because you're not paying extra for the extra display ports.
July 1, 2010 9:02:18 AM

Yeah but it's closing off future upgrade paths of another 5870 down the road.
July 1, 2010 9:06:48 AM

true true.

Maybe another possibilty is a 470gtx and a cheap PPU(although I'm not sure wether that is 3monitor support or 4 I think 4 though)

That way you don't waste money on display ports, you have an upgrade path. And once you add another 470 you'll have better value because sli scaling is far better.
July 1, 2010 9:17:14 AM

470s cost 360?

So 2 would be 720? Thats kinda steep just to get 4 monitor support that 1 500 dollar 5870 can give.

Dunno.

Way I see it, the 5870 by itself covers the 4 monitor need, and being that it's a single card can provide a future upgrade path of Xfire.

So it fits his current need, and has room to improve later. Where as the 470 costs 200 more to meet the 4 monitor need.
July 1, 2010 9:23:02 AM

No I meant getting one 470 now and some other cheap nvidia card if he doesn't have one and use that for the other 2 monitors. It won't improve performance by much but it will give you the monitor support. And then later when there is a need add in another 470. Since we are already kind of over budget now seeing as he seems to like the idea of an ssd.
July 1, 2010 9:23:54 AM

what about this

cpu: i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gpu&psu: xfx hd 5870 2gb & xfx 850w be
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ram: mushkin enhanced redline 6gb 3x2gb ddr3 1600 cl6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo: gigabyte x58a ud3r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hdd: samsung spinpoint f3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

odd: sony optirac
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case: cm haf x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hsf: prolimatech megahalms rev.b and 2 scythe s-flex fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...

Subtotal: $1,716.89

if you only had 3 monitors i would have gave u a build with the 5970 but the 5870 is ok
and if you want to make your hdd faster get these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

now the subtotal is 1895.88

and if your not overclocking you can get the cm hyper 212+(it also can oc very well)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh...
it will save you $91.97
July 1, 2010 9:26:36 AM

I think he needs an OS too so add in 95
July 1, 2010 9:28:38 AM

Altho I agree that 8x/8x is a minimal drop in performance(4% for only high end cards) if the budget allows I'd still push for a 16x/16x

But the price difference is 99 dollars over the ASUS motherboard I picked so it's really up to the OP. Not really a wrong answer in this situation.
July 1, 2010 9:31:42 AM

Are you sure the ud3r has 8/8? according to the specs it has 16/16 aswell.

And anyone have any comments on my nvidia plan?
July 1, 2010 9:34:22 AM

2 x PCI Express x16 slots, running at x16 (PCIEX16_1/PCIEX16_2) (Note 1)
2 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x8 (PCIEX8_1/PCIEX8_2) (Note 2)

Oh durr, I glanced over it and only saw the 8x/8x. I retract my previous ignorant post :) 
July 1, 2010 9:36:02 AM

We all make mistakes don't we ;) 
July 1, 2010 9:36:22 AM

Honestly I can't see any reason why the ASUS motherboard in my build could possibly justify a 99 dollar price increase. I'd definately go with the gigabyte listed in mehoshos96's build
July 1, 2010 9:37:27 AM

Yeah, I do much better AMD builds by comparison. All I've ever personally built. All my Intel builds are just picked up from being on here
July 1, 2010 9:47:04 AM

oh and the os i forgot thanks cmcghee354 it will add 99 dollars and don't get the hdd boost with the ssd i mentioned it's just a little bit faster than the f3
July 1, 2010 9:58:49 AM

@somebody_007

I'm unfamiliar with all the inner workings of SLI, but I could use a quick lesson.

Let's say he SLI'd a 470 and a 250 as you suggested. Would that clock his 470 to the capacity of a 250, like Xfire does? Can you SLI a 4xx with a 2xx? I know Radeon doesn't allow that.

Or would you just not SLI them and run them seperately? Is that feasable/operational? Like I said, I need a quick lesson
July 1, 2010 10:09:01 AM

Well if you sli then yes the 470 would be downclocked but I mean adding in a 250 as a dedicated physx it will give a minor performance bump and allow more monitors. So it's technically not sli but they are still working together in some way

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July 1, 2010 11:17:33 AM
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AMD build 1612 before shipping. I added an 80 GB SSD and upped the HDD to 1TB for media storage.

CPU: AMD Phenom IIx4 955 BE 159
Mobo: Gigabyte 890FX-UD5 139
PSU: OCZ ModXtreme 700W PSU 84
GPU: HIS 5870 2 GB w/ 6 port Eyefinity 499
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
OS Boot SSD: X25-M 80 GB Intel SSD 229
RAM: 4 GB DDR3-1333 CAS 7 103
OS: Windows 7 64 bit OEM
Case: Cooler Master HAF X 199
DVD-RW Samsung DVD-RW 19

With the added room in the budget from switching from Intel to AMD, I found ample space to fit a very nice 80 GB SSD into the build.
July 8, 2010 2:34:38 PM

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