Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 VS. XFX Radeon HD 4890?

[juicycrapachino]

Ok, clearly the 4890 has better frames in gaming in every game it takes on compaired to the 5770....but for nearly $30 more! Now I've noticed the 5770 has less power consumption, has less heat, and has DX 11. BUT, the 4890 has a large difference in performance and as far as I'm concerned heat and power consumption don't bother me that much. As for DX 11, most games today don't have DX 11 yet and only a handfull of them do, for the games I'm going to play they only support DX 10.1 so really there is no point in saying it has DX 11 as a pro... So you tell me which one is better for my rig for gaming and overclocking playing at a resolution of 1440 x 900?

My rig:
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NZXT BETA EVO Classic Series CS-NT-BETA-EVO Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Which ever card is worth it...
Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Sony Optiarc DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model AD-7241S-0B LightScribe Support
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

Thanks in advance!

 

[shadow187]

I'd go with the HD5770. You can Crossfire it later without changing your PSU, and an OC'd HD5770 = HD4890.

 

[juicycrapachino]

I'd go with the HD5770. You can Crossfire it later without changing your PSU, and an OC'd HD5770 = HD4890.

Well actually for crossfire of the 5770's you need a minimum of 600w psu and if i did crossfire them my resolution would actually cause them to perform worse due to extreme overkill...so, you wanna re-think your answer?

 

[mindless728]

Well actually for crossfire of the 5770's you need a minimum of 600w psu

wattage doesn't matter so much, amps on the 12v rail(s) do, that PSU should be able to handle 2x5770's fine

if i did crossfire them my resolution would actually cause them to perform worse due to extreme overkill...so, you wanna re-think your answer?

wrong again, having too low of a resolution could result in a CPU bottleneck, but that doesn't mean it is creating lower performance

 

[kiban]

You said it yourself, overclock and less heat and power....5770 has more room to overclock and since you plan on doing so..... there you go 5770oc'ed>4890.
Less money, and can crossfire without changing the PSU or so they had said.

 

[mindless728]

His PSU has 37.5A (450W) for just the 12V rails, that is plenty for 5770 crossfire

 

[juicycrapachino]

Ok so if my CPU does bottleneck what can i do about it?

 

[mindless728]

1) OC the hell out of the CPU
2) get a better monitor (more resolution)
3) not care because by the time it bottlenecks you will have 60+ fps all of the time

 

[juicycrapachino]

i'm really not following you on the third one... explain what you mean by that...

 

[mindless728]

what i mean by that is if the cpu was bottlenecking 2 x 5770's you would be hitting 60+fps in games at your resolution (i run 2 x 4870's and using a PII x4 810 @ 3GHz and i don't get a bottleneck at 1080P)

 

[juicycrapachino]

Well... while i had been waiting for a reply, I stumbled upon this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130433&cm_re=gtx-_-14-130-433-_-Product

Can i compare that better to a 5770?

 

[mindless728]

its better, but only by 5% or so, that card used to compete with the 4870, and IMO isn't worth it

EDIT: don't buy factory OC'ed cards since you can usually (80%+ of the time) hit those clocks, and the 4890 would out perform the GTX260 (its as powerful as the GTX275)

 

[juicycrapachino]

So 5770, Gtx 260 216 (non factory Oc'ed), or 4890?

 

[mindless728]

my order (plus reason's)
1) 5770, low power consumption and 2 of these can be used on the current PSU
2) 4890, more powerful than the 5770 and GTX260 and cheaper than the GTX260
3) GTX260, its the last one on the list, though it is a tad bit more powerful than the 5770 (~5%), but not worth $200

 

[juicycrapachino]

The gtx 260 is $185 with rebate and i wouldn't mind spending $200 if the 4890 is the same price on newegg... although lower power consumption means less heat... i don't really know, im confused, i just want the best performance for FSX...

 

[mindless728]

still even with the rebate, the gTX260 is over priced since it has performance in the 4870/5770 area (cards that can be had for $160 or so)

and the 4890 is around GTX275 performance levels (a card that was $200 when the GTX260 was $160)

EDIT: not to mention, i know i sound like a broken record, the PSU could handle 2 x 5770, but not 2 of any of the others listed

 

[juicycrapachino]

Without crossfire for my system, what is the minimum power usage for my rig? I want to try and save some money to buy a better case or more features for my system...

 

[shadow187]

Minimum power usage..? Makes no sense...HD5770 ~= 80Watts, AMD Processor ~= 125Watts, rest of system ~= 100Watts.

 

[vvhocare5]

Wow...Im reading this thread and it is all over the place.

Juicy - how on earth do you ever make a decision? Either lower price and lower performance OR higher price and higher performance.

Forget heat. If you do not have the PS for your decision, then that makes your decision. Dont upgrade. If you can afford more PS then buy it...and you would follow the advice of people on Newegg?? Seriously??

Figure out your number 1 priority and optimize that. Obviously funds are a factor in your decision. Dont buy more than you can afford.

 

[notty22]

imho, I'd go with the 5770. There are some 4890's that underperform, others that won't o/c at all. They were power hogs and some aib's used less than optimum board components. Just my opinion from things I have read. Might want to research the particular 4890 you do buy, if thats the route you choose.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=102461
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=14-150-359&SortField=3&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&SelectedRating=-1&PurchaseMark=&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&Page=1&Keywords=%28keywords%29
I'm sure there are fast 4890's owners out there, just this model scares me.

 

[mr2shim]

From reading this, it seems to me like the OP is trying to find every reason to not get a 5770 even though every reason stated would point him in the direction of one. I have two in crossfire and I love them.

Just get the 5770, it's stupid to spend more money on an outdated card. Over clock the 5770, it'll perform closer to the gtx 260 and 4890. Get another one, it'll outperform them both and you get DX11, which in the future, more games will support.

 

[juicycrapachino]

Best answer selected by JuicyCrapachino.

 

[juicycrapachino]

Finally! Someone replies that actually owns this card! Made my choice...5770 :3