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Building new computer want it to last for awhile.HELP!!!

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July 1, 2010 8:27:17 PM

Hi,

Just looking for some input here as this is my first DIY build.


PURCHASE DATE: within 1 week
BUDGET: $1300 limit(before any rebates)
USAGE: gaming/internet/movies
NOT NEEDED: monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse
PREFERRED SUPPLIER: newegg.com no taxes =D
ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: none, just reliable and reasonably priced
OVERCLOCK: yes
CROSSFIRE/SLI: yes later on
COMMENTS: Want something that is upgradeable in the future. I'll be playin sc2,wc3, and maybe a fps here and there. I was looking at i5 but the 1156 mobo seem to have no future support. I could go with a i7 but then the gpu would have to be 5770. The other thing is i go with i7 within a couple of months I can always upgrade the video card. I would like to stay under $1200 but if i have to will go to $1300. Also what about the mobo. Should I get asus crosshair iv or go with gigabyte. My head hurts =(


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ASUS 24x DVD Writer SATA Model DRW-24B1LT/BLK/B/AS LightScribe Support - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135209

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811129021

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
152-181.0.120)

GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128441

GIGABYTE GV-R583UD-1GD Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814125317

$219.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
Item #: N82E16817139006

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231303

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754


COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835103055

Subtotal: $1,141.85

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Update11-129-058 Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Model #:Nine Hundred Two
Item #:N82E16811129058


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Update13-128-423 GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:GA-X58A-UD3R
Item #:N82E16813128423


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Update14-127-490 MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Model #:R5770 Hawk
Item #:N82E16814127490


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Update17-139-006 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
Model #:CMPSU-750TX
Item #:N82E16817139006


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Update19-115-225 Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
Model #:BX80601930
Item #:N82E16819115225
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
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Update20-231-225 G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
Model #:F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
Item #:N82E16820231225
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
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Update22-152-181 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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Item #:N82E16822152181
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Update27-151-188 SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
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Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
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Update32-116-754 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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Update35-100-007 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
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Update35-103-055 COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
Model #:RR-UV8-XBU1-GP
Item #:N82E16835103055
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
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July 1, 2010 8:40:24 PM

Is there two builds to review?? i7-930 vs X4 965

My suggestions...

Go with the AM3 X4 build but drop down to the X4 955, switch your motherboard to a GX version, drop the Cooler Master V8 and pick up the Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 (you can drop AS5 too) and switch the GPU to an ATI 5850.
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July 1, 2010 9:06:27 PM

Yes two to review. I had one person say stick with intel but i5 1156 is going no where and sooner or later would like to cross fire. 1156 has to share pcie lanes. So only x8/x8. so its ethier i7 and just get a decent vcard for now or go with amd and get a better card. Whats the difference between 5830 and 5850 besides 70 dollars??
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July 1, 2010 9:08:51 PM

To be honest, 1366 isn't going anywhere either, or at least it's not in any better shape than 1156. It's scheduled to be replaced next year as well.

Additionally, the difference between 8x/8x and 16x/16x is about 4%, with 2 top-end GPUs. It's probably not worth getting too concerned over, unless you think you would tri/quad.

At your budget, your best options are the i5-750 or a Phenom II X4 955.
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July 1, 2010 9:12:18 PM

Another question then. Amd will be using the am3 socket for awhile right?
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July 1, 2010 9:21:01 PM

AM3 is still on the roadmap for next year. Bulldozer is supposed to work in AM3. Beyond that, I haven't heard anything yet.

The question is: Do you expect to upgrade your processor in 1 year? 2 years? 3 years? Or would you buy a new system at that point?

If the most demanding task you're doing is gaming, either the i5-750 or a Phenom II X4 should be fine for the next 2-3 years. Your graphics card is likely to be more of a concern than your processor for the next couple of years.

Modern games are just starting to use 3 cores, and very few (some of the RTS games) can use 4. As major manufacturers (Dell, etc.) are still largely selling dual-core processors, it's unlikely that game designers are going to require 4 cores any time soon, much less 6 or 8.

For gaming performance, spend as much money as possible on your graphics card, then worry about CPU/RAM/mobo after that. If buying AM3 allows you to get a larger graphics card than you would with an Intel solution, go for it. If the difference isn't that big, and you don't care about Bulldozer, then think about going Intel.

I just built a new rig, and I went with an AM3 build, leaving the option to upgrade to Bulldozer next year open, but I think it's unlikely I'm going to need to do so.

And to answer your question about the 5830 vs. the 5850 -- the 5850 has more shaders, etc. The 5830 is generally regarded as being at an odd price. It's got more performance than the 5770, but not enough to justify the price increase, and it doesn't have enough power to really drive a 1920x1080 display, making it a poor alternative to a 5850 (which can drive a 1080p display).
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