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Palit GTS 250 E-Green failure

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May 24, 2010 8:15:57 AM

I just bought a gts 250 e-green and when i insert it to the pcie-slot and connect the pcie power cable and turn my computer on the computer starts up normally but when i try to run a game or a benchmark program (like 3D MARK 06) the screen goes black and the light on my monitor goes amber which i think means the power supply isn't strong enough.
BUT according to the palit website http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1254 my power supply DOES pass the recommended

Power supply
Penguin Brand
500 watts with 18 amps on both 12 volt rails (about 32 amps total since its never exactly double the amps with psu's)

my PC specs are:
Pentium e5400 OC @ 3.35 Ghz
2 GB ddr2 ram
1 TB HHD
MSI G31 series motherboard
and right now im still using my old GT220

i know i should get a new power supply but shouldnt my current one still be powerful enought to run the gts250?
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 8:47:59 AM

alhanelem said:

Power supply
Penguin Brand
500 watts with 18 amps on both 12 volt rails (about 32 amps total since its never exactly double the amps with psu's)
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i know i should get a new power supply but shouldnt my current one still be powerful enought to run the gts250?


Have you tested the thing with a load tester to determine what it could actually produce? Or have you tried opening up the psu and inspecting the components on the psu and check on the net the documentation for the parts if they could indeed provide 500W?

An example: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/534

Your PSU may only be able to provide anywhere from 250~400W.

With generic psu's it doesn't mean that what's on the sticker is what it could do. Yours may only be able to do 500W for a few seconds.

Get a better psu, no way around it.
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May 24, 2010 9:10:40 AM

Damn your right, my psu has a total output of 300 watts on the 12 v rail which means it has 25 amps not 32. which means my psu is just under the recommended so i should get a new power supply

would the thermaltake litepower 600 w be enough?
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 9:17:55 AM

alhanelem said:
Damn your right, my psu has a total output of 300 watts on the 12 v rail which means it has 25 amps not 32. which means my psu is just under the recommended so i should get a new power supply

would the thermaltake litepower 600 w be enough?


There are 2 variants of the Thermaltake Litepower:

1.) the OEM version (65% efficiency, smaller fans?)
2.) the Retail version (80%+ efficiency and a solid unit).

Either is better than what you have now. Though are there other brands available from where you are?
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May 24, 2010 9:23:22 AM

i might get the litepower 600 watt
i live in australia and there is one for $90 (aud)
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 9:41:39 AM

Could you try looking for a Corsair VX450 or an OCZ ModXStream 550W?

Could you also post the link (if you're getting the litepower online)?
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2010 2:45:13 PM

Based on the rough computation of power needed with http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine .
You'd need probably 350W or less.

Out of that shop, I could see that they sell Corsairs.

You could get the VX450. The price-per-watt is higher than other brands because Corsair's (which are built by Seasonic), are usually "overbuilt". They usually have more components and are usually made with some of the best stuff.

Here's the review for the VX450: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/540
They were able to make it work at 570W (though I would hardly recommend against doing so).



Another psu, the Antec Basiq seems to be a solid, basic unit also. I believe the TruePower series are also good but I just couldn't find a/the review.
Review:http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/792/10



The Thermaltake Litepower OEM however, I couldn't find any other info about it, that's why I couldn't really solidly recommend it.

OEM page-> http://www.thermaltake.com.au/Products/PowerSupply/Lite...
Retail page-> http://www.thermaltake.com/product_colorbox.aspx?cid=C_...

The reviews for the Thermaltake Litepower on the net are for the retail version. What you have in the store is the OEM version.
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May 25, 2010 9:48:33 AM

i went to the store and to my surprise they didnt have any of the psu's at their store, they said due to the market, blah blah blah they may or may not have all the products that they have on there price list
so i just bought a GW 550SEL for $65 and it has about 32 amps on 12 v and im now using my gts 250.
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a b U Graphics card
May 25, 2010 10:15:52 AM

alhanelem said:
i went to the store and to my surprise they didnt have any of the psu's at their store, they said due to the market, blah blah blah they may or may not have all the products that they have on there price list
so i just bought a GW 550SEL for $65 and it has about 32 amps on 12 v and im now using my gts 250.



GW 550SEL sounds like an unknown brand to me (or probably some cheap Taiwan or China made stuff).

Since you did already buy it, all I could say is that if things go wrong (i.e. doesn't boot), you might want to take a special look at the psu. I've had systems run on a generic psu and usually the psu just burns out after a couple of years.

Well, good luck anyway.
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May 26, 2010 6:11:18 AM

amnotanoobie said:
GW 550SEL sounds like an unknown brand to me (or probably some cheap Taiwan or China made stuff).

Since you did already buy it, all I could say is that if things go wrong (i.e. doesn't boot), you might want to take a special look at the psu. I've had systems run on a generic psu and usually the psu just burns out after a couple of years.

Well, good luck anyway.


i found this website about my psu: http://www.ccpu.com.au/show_prod.php?class_id=power_cas...
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May 26, 2010 10:31:07 AM

If the sticker could be believed, then it could be a good psu (though I have my doubts as I haven't seen the internal components).

Though the rail distribution seems odd
3.3V * 24A = 79.2W
+5V * 20A = 100W
+12V1 * 17A = 204W
+12V2 * 16A = 192W
+12V3 * 12A = 144W
+12V4 * 12A = 144W

Total = 863.2W????
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May 26, 2010 10:45:59 AM

amnotanoobie said:
If the sticker could be believed, then it could be a good psu (though I have my doubts as I haven't seen the internal components).

Though the rail distribution seems odd
3.3V * 24A = 79.2W
+5V * 20A = 100W
+12V1 * 17A = 204W
+12V2 * 16A = 192W
+12V3 * 12A = 144W
+12V4 * 12A = 144W

Total = 863.2W????


Maybe the company is bad at maths?
anyway the combined watt output for the 3.3 and 5v is 160 watts
which leaves 390 for the 12v which is 32 amps, if my maths is right.
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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2010 10:47:11 AM

Well it should do the job, if the sticker is right. Some no-name brands over-state what their psu is capable of. Though for your setup, it should work fine.
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