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Q8300 worth it?

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September 2, 2010 8:49:45 AM

I'm plannin to replace my:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 @ 2.7 GHz

with an

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2.5 GHz

My current specs:
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400 @ 2.7Ghz
9800 GT 1 GB
2 GB

My budget:
I live in the Philippines and my budget is around 7,000 PHP, the Q8300 is around 7,500 PHP(167 USD)....

Is it worth it? The sole purpose of doing this is to be able to run Crysis and Crysis 2 as well as well all the other modern titles comin out, I'm wonderin if Q8300(quad core) is a worthy upgrade from an E5400 @ 2.7 GHz....

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September 2, 2010 9:50:14 AM

It will help, but upgrading the 9800GT will help more. A dual core around 3GHz is enough to run modern games.
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September 2, 2010 10:47:58 AM

In terms of gaming, is the perforance difference E5400 vs. Q8300 a lot?
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September 2, 2010 11:24:18 AM

I guess it'll be not of much help.. Like said above, upgrading your GPU will help more.. You are somewhat restricted by your RAM also.. 2GB is a bare minimum.. Adding another 2GB will help smoothen things out..
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September 2, 2010 2:10:46 PM

Its going to depend on the games you play. Some won't see any increase because your problem is the 2GBs of ram or the 9800GT. Others will see a boost, but the 9800GT will prevent that boost from being as high as it should be. I don't know enough about the games you play, the resolution you play at, the settings you use, etc to know if the quad will help or not. In general it will help on RTS and MMO/sandbox games. FPS will likely see little to no benefit.
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September 2, 2010 2:24:27 PM

The Q8xxx are basically two E5xxx on one die so you will see basically no difference in most games. There are a few games that will see an improvement with a quad core but your GPU and 2 gigs of ram will hold you back before your CPU will.
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September 3, 2010 2:41:38 AM

I am seeing bottlenecks in:
Just Cause 2
Oblivion
Crysis
Crysis Warhead
Prototype
Assassin's Creed 2

I heard some of those are CPU intensive so I thot that me E5400 is causing the bottlenecks, u guyz think its sumthin else? like say, the RAm or the 9800 GT?
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September 3, 2010 3:24:07 AM

crysis and oblivion are not optimized for more then two cores. in fact your slower cores may actually hurt your FPS. The PC in your member configuration seems outdated from the specs you posted. What monitor and resolution are you playing at and your OS is still Win XP?

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September 3, 2010 4:43:58 AM

Windows 7 and 17 inches(4:3, CRT...yeh i know pathetic) ok so maybe quad core won't help much, but upgrading a processor in some way helps?

Windows 7
Intel DG31PR
Coolermaster EX 390

For the past months after registering at Tom's, I only upgraded my processor and PSU
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a c 81 à CPUs
September 3, 2010 5:00:00 AM

Your video card and RAM are surely not adequate for all those listed games.. Additionaly, it looks like your gaming resolution is 1024 x 768.. At such a low resolution, the CPU will become a significant contributor.. Overblock your CPU to about 3.2 GHz and see if it helps.. I played all those games (pretty smoothly) on my rig which comprised of an Intel C2D E6750 overclocked to 3.2 GHz, 4 GB RAM and a HD 4870 1GB..
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September 3, 2010 5:06:06 AM

Maybe I'll buy a new mobo, and OC my E5400 to 3.0 GHz, anyways, thanks and also I play at 1280x1024 or less 1280x960, all of em, even Crysis.....They're all smooth, its just that I don't like getting 25 FPS or less so I'd refer upgrading...Crysis Warhead suffers a lot on big encounters and lots of explosions

Anyways, its clear now,I shud upgrade either the RAM or the videocard...

I plan to get an HD5770, u think an HD5770 will run with my Coolermaster EX390?

I tried a PSU calculator, the xtreme.outervision one and it says my PC only needs less than 350 or sumthin to run the HD5770 but the AMD website suggests 450w; so shud I upgrade to 450w and sell my 390w or keep my 390w?

BTW, optional question: how do u tell many amps agen? LOL I forgot, do u sum up all the rails or just the 12v ones?

bcoz I heard the HD5770 may need 40 amps
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September 3, 2010 5:15:01 AM

oh here u go...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-tes... it says here that I need 40 AMPS

and unfortunately the box of my EX 390 says
12v=16
12v2 =18
-12v=1

and if u sum it up its only 34 amps, maybe I should sell my EX 390 and get a Coolermaster RealPower 550w and that'll also power future RAM upgrades
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a c 81 à CPUs
September 3, 2010 5:27:30 AM

Yes you have to upgrade your PSU.. And if you can, steer clear of CM PSU's.. They are not that good..
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a c 87 à CPUs
September 3, 2010 6:36:12 AM

Its not 34A because 34A * 12V = 408. 408 > 390 so it has to be less. You need to find some total for 12v1 and 12v2 and then divide that Wattage number by 12. For example it might show 264W, which would come to 22A. The 5770 doesn't need 40A, 22A will do fine.
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September 10, 2010 3:12:00 PM

Emperus said:
Yes you have to upgrade your PSU.. And if you can, steer clear of CM PSU's.. They are not that good..


Good thing I found a store selling Corsair HX series
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September 20, 2010 9:48:26 AM

Best answer selected by wilem_WAR246810.
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September 20, 2010 11:10:18 PM

saaiello said:
The Q8xxx are basically two E5xxx on one die so you will see basically no difference in most games. There are a few games that will see an improvement with a quad core but your GPU and 2 gigs of ram will hold you back before your CPU will.


If Q8xxx is equivalent to 2 E5xxx , Shouldn't the performance increase? why will the 2 other cores sit idle and do nothing?
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September 21, 2010 12:22:21 AM

techie_guy said:
If Q8xxx is equivalent to 2 E5xxx , Shouldn't the performance increase? why will the 2 other cores sit idle and do nothing?


they won't necessarily sit idle but most games rely on two core so often a quad core and dual core CPU at the same speed will have equal performance.
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September 21, 2010 1:06:47 AM

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