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July 6, 2010 4:14:23 PM

My motherboard finally died on me after about 5 years. There are about 6 capacitors split open. I feel its a good time to buy a new mobo, CPU and RAM, but I haven't been keeping up with the technology. I've been trying to re-educate myself over the last couple of days and I'm looking for more advice.

The bulk of what I use this PC for are MMOs and the new Starcraft II game. I have 2 monitors setup and usually have a movie or video streaming at the same time. One of the parts I'd like to keep is my video card since its only 2 years old. Its an 8800GTS 512MB. My power supply is an Ultra 600W, and is 5 years old. I'm not sure if I can reuse it or not. I have 3 hard drives (also 5 years old), so space is not an issue. I was contemplating getting a small solid state drive just for the operating system, but I'm not sure how much that will improve performance. I'm more of a "bang for the buck" type of person. I do not have to have the latest and greatest, but I do want my system to perform smoothly. I'm looking to spend about $400-$700 for the upgrades. The main pieces I'm looking for are mobo, CPU, and RAM. Let me know if you think I need a new power supply and hard drive as well. Any advice and feedback is much appreciated.

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July 6, 2010 4:44:52 PM

Could you please use the form at the top of the main page? Makes helping you out alot easier, cheers!
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July 6, 2010 6:08:09 PM

Hereisphilly said:
Could you please use the form at the top of the main page? Makes helping you out alot easier, cheers!



Thank you for responding. I don't see a form to fill out. Is it something to input my current setup?
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July 6, 2010 6:18:59 PM

Do you know if your hard drives are sata or pata, and also, if your psu provides sata connections?
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July 6, 2010 6:21:52 PM

jrhii said:
Do you know if your hard drives are sata or pata, and also, if your psu provides sata connections?


2 of my 3 hard drives are SATA, and my current power supply suports 2 SATA drives. I don't mind swapping 1 out for a new drive.
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July 7, 2010 3:35:03 AM

Here is the information I didn't include earlier.


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 8/2005

BUDGET RANGE: $500-$800 after rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: MMOs, online movies, and soon to be Starcraft 2

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, video card (ECS N8800GTS-512MX GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3), power supply (Ultra 600W - might replace)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com or local store (Fry's)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: no preference

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The main pieces I'm interested in replacing are mobo, CPU, and RAM. I might get a small solid state hard drive for the OS if it increases gaming performance.
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July 7, 2010 6:13:09 AM

Overclocking or not?

EDIT: Oh crap, I missed that line. Nevermind.
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July 7, 2010 2:28:25 PM

I'm not too interested in overclocking.
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July 7, 2010 4:51:25 PM
July 7, 2010 5:14:00 PM

Um, no need for 8gigs of ram. He wont use that much for gaming and movies. 4gb is just fine
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July 7, 2010 5:15:37 PM

For you with that card, i would go for the i5 750 bundle, as it is a seriously good gaming cpu. You could alternatively go for an amd 955, but this intel is better, and has plenty of power for any new card you want to throw at it.

i5-750 - $415
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Get the g skill ram - $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would change the PSU, i dont like the idea of lesser brands
XFX 650w - $99.99 ($79.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you need a case, the Haf 922 is fantastic, or something cheaper is the Antec 300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

In total, that comes to around $660, (or $760 if you choose to get the haf 922)

That system will then be strong enough to add virtually any new GPU (maybe not a 5970) you want to and not worry about bottlenecks/power shortages
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July 7, 2010 5:50:27 PM

dbarsun said:
I see that newegg is going to have a sale later today on this mobo for $145:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What do you know about this board?


It was MSI's top of the line P55 board, it is extremely good at overclocking, but lacks USB3 and Sata 6gbps. I wouldnt get it, it is more expenive than the Gigabyte in the combo, and doesnt offer that much extra, as the gigabyte is already a really good board.

The best possible price/performace/features board atm is the Asus P7P55de Pro, as it has all the latest controllers, but with none of the PCIe lane bottlenecks that occur when using two graphics cards and either a sata 6gbps or usb3 device

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 7, 2010 10:11:48 PM

I saw this ad at Fry's today:

Intel® Core i7 Processor 930 & GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 3-WAY SLI/Crossfire ATX Motherboard Bundle Combo $364.99 AR @ Frys B&M

Is this board better than the ASUS?



What is the difference in the ASUS P7P55d-E boards?

ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA
ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA
ASUS P7P55D-E LGA
ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe LGA
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July 7, 2010 10:22:06 PM

The above system you stated is significantly better, but it is only becasue it is an i7 9xx series cpu with an x58 chipset motherboard. The boards are not comparable becasue the sockets are different.

As far as i can see, the differences in the Asus boards are:

ASUS P7P55D-E - single Pcie 2.0 slot (only run one gpu)

ASUS P7P55D-E LX - dual Pcie 2.0 slots, but the second is only x4, so still dual gpus are out of the question, but the slower clot can be used for other types of cards.

ASUS P7P55D-E PRO - dual Pcie 2.0 slots for dual graphics setup (the best one)

ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe - same as above but with a slightly better power supply, and dual gigabit lan ports.

hope this helps!!
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July 8, 2010 4:59:36 AM

Hereisphilly said:
For you with that card, i would go for the i5 750 bundle, as it is a seriously good gaming cpu. You could alternatively go for an amd 955, but this intel is better, and has plenty of power for any new card you want to throw at it.

i5-750 - $415
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...



This is actually $310 after rebate. I just added in the $105 from the gskill because I recommended it across the board, so it's not so expensive.


If you actually do want to spend $500-$800, you might as well get a up to date PSU, but I would figure if it has worked out fine for you so far, and you need more sata connections, you can always get an adapter. What was more important is to pay attention to pata connections on the new boards, because they don't carry too many, and if you have too many pata devices, you won't be able to use them all.
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July 8, 2010 7:31:36 PM

I'm thinking of picking up that Gigabyte board and i7 at Fry's. It looks like a good deal. That question I have is about that RAM configuration. For optimum performance, do I need to have 3 or 6 sticks, or can I run 2 or 4 sticks?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for the info.
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July 8, 2010 7:59:22 PM

I think you can dun dual channel (multiples of 2), but if you are buying all the components new to fit together, you might aswel buy the optimised triple channel ram, 6 gig will be great
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July 9, 2010 11:21:55 AM

30Gb is a bit small, minimum you want really is a 64gb drive
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July 9, 2010 6:01:05 PM

Why is the 30GB too small? I don't plan on putting anything on it except the operating system (Windows7). I'm not disagreeing with you, I just don't understand.
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July 9, 2010 6:51:06 PM

I agree with OP. Currently, I see SSD's as too small to be able to load all your programs, and too expensive on the larger end. I don't feel like there is much more you can do than load an OS, unless you want to choose which programs you want to load. Until you can get more affordable ssds at the 120 level or higher, depending on how many programs you need, I would go smaller, instead of an in between.
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July 9, 2010 6:57:15 PM

I would say that 30gb limits what you want to put on the drive, cos to make full use of it, you would want to put the most used programs on it aswel, and after that, 30gb is looking a bit small
Jus my opinion on what i wanna put on it really.

On another note, smaller SSDs dont perform as well in write speeds and sometimes in read speeds when compared to their larger capacity bretheren
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July 11, 2010 3:28:01 AM

Thanks to you guys I have come up with some pieces and want to know how you think they will work together:

motherboard/CPU combo was $365 before tax at Fry's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU $90 after rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM $160 after rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD $105 after rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

SSD $135 after rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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