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July 8, 2010 8:56:49 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: I plan to purchase 1-2 weeks from now.

BUDGET RANGE: Estimated budget of $1200-$1500 after rebates.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: I plan to use this system first and foremost for gaming. But I also need it to be able to run certain programs for school, such as, 3D modeling programs, AUTOCAD, and Photoshop.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, CD drives

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg preferred.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: U.S.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would like to use an Intel CPU, ASUS Motherboard, Corsair RAM

OVERCLOCKING: Very possible for the CPU, not so much for the graphics card.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Most likely, in the future.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050, 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: A quiet build is always a plus. I would like to eventually add a second graphics card. Most importantly I am looking for something that is reliable and will be able to run most games without a program (mostly FPS, some MMO's). I would like to have a powerful build, but at the same time not blow a hole in my wallet. Also, as I mentioned before, it should have the capabilities to run some design programs, but nothing too substantial. I do also need an OS, but the price for that is not to be included in the cost of the build.

My main concerns are:

1) The compatibility of it all working together
2) Bottleneck in performance cause by any piece of hardware
3) Any piece of hardware that might be overkill, compared to others in the list
4) Heating issues, and if I will need to look into other types of cooling besides standard air flow
5) Power supply

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Here is what I have put together so far:

Motherboad: ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Reason:

CPU: Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
Reason: After looking over benchmarks and CPU charts on various websites, I thought this might be the best choice. From what I have read it has substantial overclocking capabilities, and it is also much more economical then the i7 940, 950, etc.

Graphics Card: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB
Reason: After comparing other high end graphics cards, I choice this one as it can be easily attained for around $400, whereas the next cards on the list (GTX 480 and HD 5970) run anywhere from $550-$700. Not to mention the lifetime warranty. I believe it was chosen as the best buy for $400, if I am not mistaken.

Memory: CORSAIR XMS 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000)
Reason: I have also liked Corsair, and went with the triple channel kit as supported by the Motherboard. I'm not sure if the DDR3-2000 is overkill or not, however.

HD#1: Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 10000 RPM
Reason: I would like this to serve as my primary HD for programs.

HD#2: Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200 RPM
Reason: This would serve as a purely storage HD.

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Reason: No particular reason, besides the fact that it is affordable. My only concern is that it isn't enough juice for the system and/or the possibility of a future Crossfire setup.

I believe this all comes out to just under $1500, according to newegg.

Thanks for looking.
July 8, 2010 9:41:31 AM

1) Yes everything will work
2)Your HDD will be a bottleneck in loading and booting
3) Your ram is pretty good which isn't neccesary as this will make virtually no difference
4)No stock cooling will do just fine on stock clocks. If you want to OC you will need an aftermarket cooler though
5) That psu should handle 2 5870s no problem.

Overall good build I'd change a few things though

I don't like velociraptors. They are fast, quiet, cool and reliable. The perfect storage drive for an overly expensive system. But as boot drives I wouldn't reccomend one. They are relativly big and slow compared to SSDs. As an alternative I'd get an ssd or a faster HDD like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As I mentioned the memory is kind of overkill so I'd go for this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... it's fast and runs at low voltage which is better.

And lastly do you have a case?
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July 8, 2010 1:32:32 PM

for your budget i'd get a gtx 480 with lifetime warranty (don't get ati they have some problems with aa and tessellation)
cpu & mobo: i7 930 & gigabyte x58a ud3r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ram: g.skill pi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gpu: zotac gtx 480 with lifetime warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case & psu: lian li lancool pc-k62 & xfx 850w (both are top notch high quality stuff and the psu can handle sli)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

hdd: samsung spinpoint f3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

odd: any $20 dvd combo drive

hsf: scythe mugen 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $1,434.92
Subtotal: $1,414.92 AFTER REBATE
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July 8, 2010 1:40:39 PM

Very good build by mrhoshos
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July 8, 2010 1:55:22 PM

Somebody_007 said:
Very good build by mrhoshos

thanks man appreciate :D 
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July 8, 2010 6:58:56 PM

Somebody_007 said:
1) Yes everything will work
2)Your HDD will be a bottleneck in loading and booting
3) Your ram is pretty good which isn't neccesary as this will make virtually no difference
4)No stock cooling will do just fine on stock clocks. If you want to OC you will need an aftermarket cooler though
5) That psu should handle 2 5870s no problem.

Overall good build I'd change a few things though

I don't like velociraptors. They are fast, quiet, cool and reliable. The perfect storage drive for an overly expensive system. But as boot drives I wouldn't reccomend one. They are relativly big and slow compared to SSDs. As an alternative I'd get an ssd or a faster HDD like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As I mentioned the memory is kind of overkill so I'd go for this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... it's fast and runs at low voltage which is better.

And lastly do you have a case?



Thanks for the reply,

On the memory issue, would there be a noticeable difference between the Corsair DDR3 2000, and G.Skill DDR3 1600.

I will definitely keep looking at other HD's. HD's are not my biggest concern just yet, but I will need to replace them in the coming months, as they are starting to age on me now.
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July 8, 2010 7:03:54 PM

Well the G.skill memory has better latencies(cl7 vs the cl9 on the corsair) so if there is a difference it would be in favor of the G.skill. If you OC however i think the corsair will OC better and dominators even better but they come at a high price tag and memory performance has a low impact on system performance. So I'd get the G.skills.
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July 8, 2010 7:07:07 PM

Somebody_007 said:


And lastly do you have a case?



Forgot to add, yes I do have an older case, as well as an older power supply.

Case: APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-AL Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Power Supply: APEVIA ATX-AS520W-BK 520W ATX Power Supply

Only reason I didn't include the case, was that I usually pick them up cheaper from a shop down the road, instead of newegg.

Being that the power supply is going on 5 years old now, I thought it would be best to replace it, unless you guys suggest otherwise.

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July 8, 2010 7:25:18 PM

mrhoshos96 said:
for your budget i'd get a gtx 480 with lifetime warranty (don't get ati they have some problems with aa and tessellation)
cpu & mobo: i7 930 & gigabyte x58a ud3r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ram: g.skill pi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gpu: zotac gtx 480 with lifetime warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case & psu: lian li lancool pc-k62 & xfx 850w (both are top notch high quality stuff and the psu can handle sli)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

hdd: samsung spinpoint f3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

odd: any $20 dvd combo drive

hsf: scythe mugen 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $1,434.92
Subtotal: $1,414.92 AFTER REBATE


Thanks for the reply,

I actually had that GIGABYTE motherboard in my cart, but after reading through the reviews and seeing so much negative feedback, I ended up switching to an ASUS. I see that the GIGABYTE is the Toms Hardware recommended buy, but is there anything more specific you can tell me why you chose this one of the ASUS?

I will keep looking at the GTX 480's. From the reviews I've read the HD 5870 always seemed to perform extremely well, even against the GTX 480, which is why I chose the cheaper of the two, but if you suggest otherwise I will definitely keep looking. I notice though, that the particular brand you suggested for the GTX 480 was getting some bad feedback. I personally haven't heard of ZOTAC, is this a recommended brand around here? Or is there another that you would suggest if I went the way of the GTX 480?

It looks like you aren't the only one suggesting I pick up a G.Skill memory unit, looks like I need to make some changes!

The case and power supply also look nice, I wasn't looking at cases, but now I'm starting to think I might have some issues with it on clearance and air flow, so I will keep the one you suggested in mind.

Thanks again.
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July 8, 2010 8:40:31 PM

newegg reviewers are noobs believe the perfectly fine it has all the features the asus has and more sata ports oces better the bios is upgraded regularly also cheaper

the gtx 480 handles dx11 tessellation and aa much better than the 5870 and has more vram if u don't like the zotac get the evga(best company for nvidia graphics)
the only problem with the gtx 480 is the heat and power consumption ( but this beast can handle over 100c)

get a new case and psu apevia sucks get the combo i told u about here are some reviews
case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4XCT9yibwQ
psu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7bV-O14dpY
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July 8, 2010 8:49:35 PM

yeah seriously don't trust newegg reviews. Some people give the product 1 egg for making a black and white manual or similar neglectable issues. You should check out proper reviews to really get an indication of the quality. I wouldn't trust youtube reviews like 3dgameman(hardwarecanucks and some others are very reliable though) much though they are mainly advertising and mostly mention pros not cons.


As for the 480. If you've got the money it sure is a good card.
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July 8, 2010 9:00:54 PM

mrhoshos96 said:

the gtx 480 handles dx11 tessellation and aa much better than the 5870 and has more vram


Are those features worth ~$100? For some people, the answer is yes, for others, it's no. Does tesselation even matter that much for your (individual) gaming experience?

If you're considering dropping $400-500 on a graphics card, you should also consider the other features offered as well as whether value or absolute performance matters more to you.
* Are you interested in 3D gaming?- currently only nVidia offers 3D technology
* Are you interested in 3+ monitor-gaming? - ATI allows gaming on up to 3 monitors on one card, nVidia requires 2 cards to run 3 monitors
* nVidia's 480 GTX is currently the most powerful single-GPU card
* ATI's 5870 provides better value (nearly the same performance for much less) than the 480

I would absolutely get a new PSU, ATI suggests 500W for a single 5870, and a 5-year-old PSU is likely to have aged enough that it might not be able sustain the load. Case is up to you.

I'll second (or third?) banthracis' recommendation of getting an SSD instead of a Velociraptor, if you have money left over. Failing that, a good 7200 rpm drive will be fine.
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July 8, 2010 9:17:36 PM

I will tell you what to do from my experience .First you must NEVER and i repeat NEVER buy i pre-build pc from a company.Of course i do not know if the rig you mention is a pre-build one , but if it is dont buy it .Always build your pc by spare parts yourself it is not difficult and you will get better hardware.You should always have in mind that the most important part is the graphics card.Now if you are rich buy one of the top and 5870 is one of the top , but have in mind that you do not really need a top of the line card to play games at maximum settings.So a 5850 or gtx 470 are also great cards which will cost you less money and with them you will enjoy every single game.Do not forget that even if you buy the 5870 now,in a perion of 1-1,5 year there will be now cards which will cost half the price of todays 5870 price and those cards will be faster than 5970.So a good choice,always in my opinion is to buy a 5850 or gtx 470 now ,save the extra money from buying the 5970 and in 2 years time buy a new card .In pc gaming you have to buy hardware in a clever way, because hardware gets outdated soon .You dont have to give a fortune for pc gaming just buy smart.As far as the other parts they are ok and for the cpu never spend more than 200-230 dollars.Hope ive helped.
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July 8, 2010 9:21:33 PM

Did you really just cut & paste that unreadable wall of text from another thread?

Come on.

Both of the threads you've posted this in, the original posters indicated they were going to build it themselves. And while it's fine to not buy the absolute best graphics card, you can't just recommend a 5850 or a 470 for everyone, no matter the resolution they plan to game on.
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July 8, 2010 9:26:28 PM

ooohh so this is how there are so many not pro veterans around here: copy/paste

your post just makes me laugh :p 
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July 8, 2010 9:54:50 PM

Some guys should be more careful when the try to judge somebody by the fact that they cannot read a simple text or some others who like to laugh a lot .Ive met quiet a few people who thought they know about pc gaming , like you guys, but in the end they had absolutely no idea.
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July 8, 2010 10:01:08 PM

So you're saying that me and coldsleep have no idea about pc gaming? me that's bad but coldsleep?
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July 8, 2010 10:01:21 PM

coldsleep said:
Are those features worth ~$100? For some people, the answer is yes, for others, it's no. Does tesselation even matter that much for your (individual) gaming experience?

If you're considering dropping $400-500 on a graphics card, you should also consider the other features offered as well as whether value or absolute performance matters more to you.
* Are you interested in 3D gaming?- currently only nVidia offers 3D technology
* Are you interested in 3+ monitor-gaming? - ATI allows gaming on up to 3 monitors on one card, nVidia requires 2 cards to run 3 monitors
* nVidia's 480 GTX is currently the most powerful single-GPU card
* ATI's 5870 provides better value (nearly the same performance for much less) than the 480

I would absolutely get a new PSU, ATI suggests 500W for a single 5870, and a 5-year-old PSU is likely to have aged enough that it might not be able sustain the load. Case is up to you.

I'll second (or third?) banthracis' recommendation of getting an SSD instead of a Velociraptor, if you have money left over. Failing that, a good 7200 rpm drive will be fine.


As of now, I am not interested in 3D nor 3+ monitor gaming.

Right now the main thing I'm trying to decide is just how light I want my wallet to be, lol.

Through process of elimination and budget, I had intended on getting the HD 5870 that I listed above for $400. Mainly because it was much cheaper then the GTX 480 and of course much much cheaper then the HD 5970. However, after mrhoshos suggested I look into the GTX 480's again, I did find some GTX 480's that with rebates, and combo deals, come down to about $470-$490. For me, I'm willing to pay a few extra bucks to get more performance. In this case though, the difference in performance in these two cards (from some posts here, GPU charts, benchmarks) just didn't seem like it was that great, unless one of you guys know otherwise.

I suppose with a price gap of <$100, I will most likely just get the "better" card, just have to figure out which one that is, lol.

I will definitely be getting a new PSU, most likely a combo deal as was mentioned previously.
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July 8, 2010 10:07:09 PM

Personally, bang for your buck I'd probably consider going with a CF or SLI setup over a single 5870 or 480. CF 5850s or SLI 470s would kill.

As to the HDDs... have you considered setting up a RAID 0? Doubles your throughput and much cheaper than SSDs.

Personally for gaming I don't see the point of anything more than an i5 750 or maybe the i7 8xx series if you must, but that's just me. I guess the 16x PCIe lanes are nice on the X58 chipset but the 8x lanes on my P55 don't really hinder it at all. You could save money there and put more into a sick GPU set up, and maybe get 3 monitors for awesome EyeInfinity gaming (or go with Nvidia and 3D lol)...

But anyway, looks like a good system that you've picked so far and should work great
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July 8, 2010 10:09:15 PM

mrhoshos96 said:
newegg reviewers are noobs believe the perfectly fine it has all the features the asus has and more sata ports oces better the bios is upgraded regularly also cheaper

the gtx 480 handles dx11 tessellation and aa much better than the 5870 and has more vram if u don't like the zotac get the evga(best company for nvidia graphics)
the only problem with the gtx 480 is the heat and power consumption ( but this beast can handle over 100c)

get a new case and psu apevia sucks get the combo i told u about here are some reviews
case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4XCT9yibwQ
psu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7bV-O14dpY


Somebody_007 said:
yeah seriously don't trust newegg reviews. Some people give the product 1 egg for making a black and white manual or similar neglectable issues. You should check out proper reviews to really get an indication of the quality. I wouldn't trust youtube reviews like 3dgameman(hardwarecanucks and some others are very reliable though) much though they are mainly advertising and mostly mention pros not cons.


As for the 480. If you've got the money it sure is a good card.


Lol, well I don't just look at how many egg's something has, I do actually read through each review, as well as compare benchmarks and charts, mostly which are from this website.

I typically buy ASUS for motherboards, but I have heard that GIGABYTE is a very good brand.

As far as I can see, I have 3 votes for the GTX 480 (if I can afford it).

Well guys I think all this will just come down to a flip of a coin. To me it doesn't seem like there will be too much of a difference in "most" current games that are out. However from some of your opinions and what I have read, it seems like the GTX 480 will shine through in performance, as time goes on.
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July 8, 2010 10:17:12 PM

Well nvidia cards exel as moshmosh(or whatever his name is :p ) said at high settings. They are not particularly good on high res though.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

As you can see on 1920 with high settings(which is what I assume you will be playing on) the 480 makes a category of it's own. Yes it's hot, ineffiecient and expensive. But the performance you get is mind blowing especially considering it's actually much faster now that the real drivers are out. It also has the best upgrade path of all cards now on the market. Both the 5870 and 480 are worth the price.

and if you want it at 470dollars there are many combos to do that like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

it actually costs 450 in that combo
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July 8, 2010 10:19:48 PM

you know flipping a coin wouldn't be a bad idea. As I said both are worth their money. You'll be happy and have regrets with both.
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July 8, 2010 10:23:48 PM

halodm said:
I suppose with a price gap of <$100, I will most likely just get the "better" card, just have to figure out which one that is, lol.


Personally, I think the 5870 is a better deal, but I have trouble finding fault with people that want the 480. :) 

For me, the performance difference isn't great enough to justify the price. And I'm more interested in Eyefinity, as I tend to think that 3D gaming needs a little time to mature.

In general, I think your original build is quite good, with the exception of the Velociraptor, again due to price/performance when compared to an SSD or a Seagate 7200.12, Samsung Spinpoint F3, or WD1002FAEX.
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July 8, 2010 10:30:45 PM

Somebody_007 said:
Well nvidia cards exel as moshmosh=


lol moshmosh [:isamuelson:1]
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July 8, 2010 10:32:13 PM

Somebody_007 said:
Well nvidia cards exel as moshmosh(or whatever his name is :p ) said at high settings. They are not particularly good on high res though.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

As you can see on 1920 with high settings(which is what I assume you will be playing on) the 480 makes a category of it's own. Yes it's hot, ineffiecient and expensive. But the performance you get is mind blowing especially considering it's actually much faster now that the real drivers are out. It also has the best upgrade path of all cards now on the market. Both the 5870 and 480 are worth the price.

and if you want it at 470dollars there are many combos to do that like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

it actually costs 450 in that combo


Interesting tests, it looks like the HD 5870 only comes up better under certain conditions, and even then only slightly so, whereas the GTX 480, when it runs better, runs much better.

I think this is the best part of your post... "Yes it's hot, inefficient and expensive. But the performance you get is mind blowing" ...if that isn't the American way, then I don't know what is.

Also, that motherboard in that combo you listed, is the one I had planned to get before I posted this topic, so that's a plus! Lol.
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July 8, 2010 10:40:22 PM

wolfram23 said:
Personally, bang for your buck I'd probably consider going with a CF or SLI setup over a single 5870 or 480. CF 5850s or SLI 470s would kill.

As to the HDDs... have you considered setting up a RAID 0? Doubles your throughput and much cheaper than SSDs.

Personally for gaming I don't see the point of anything more than an i5 750 or maybe the i7 8xx series if you must, but that's just me. I guess the 16x PCIe lanes are nice on the X58 chipset but the 8x lanes on my P55 don't really hinder it at all. You could save money there and put more into a sick GPU set up, and maybe get 3 monitors for awesome EyeInfinity gaming (or go with Nvidia and 3D lol)...

But anyway, looks like a good system that you've picked so far and should work great


I did consider cheaper cards, but I'm still leaning toward the single card setup, with the potential to add another later (if needed).

Can you elaborate more on the i5-750, compared to the i7-930. I originally was looking at the i5-750 but after comparing the two I ended up deciding on the i7-930, I can't remember why now, though. I do remember though, they both have great OC'ing potential.
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July 8, 2010 10:45:17 PM

There's benchmarks here http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/core-i5-gaming,review-316...

You can see they perform very very closely.

EDIT: As to the OCing, well you can see I have an I5 750 running at 3.68ghz and with turbo boost on, it hits 4.2ghz with the max turbo. And many games are not multithreaded for more than 2 cores which should enable 4.2ghz. (175x21/24)
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July 9, 2010 12:26:37 AM

As a follow-up, I think that going with a single-card solution to start is generally the right way to go. If you never end up buying the 2nd card, due to never needing the performance, that's ok. On the other hand, if you buy 2 cards at the start, and then still need a performance boost in a year or two, you've got to hope that 3-way drivers are VASTLY improved, or throw out both cards and try something new.

And personally, I find RAID 0 to rarely be worth it, unless you're really good about taking backups, and you don't mind reinstalling your OS if something goes wrong. Sure, chances of a disk failing are low, but the cost (in time, if nothing else) of reinstalling without some sort of imaging software is pretty high.
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July 9, 2010 3:19:39 AM

Not sure what you mean about the RAID 0 there coldsleep. RAID 0 is significantly faster than a single HDD, and whether you're in RAID 0 or a single drive, if one fails you lose your stuff either way.
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July 9, 2010 3:50:42 AM

wolfram23 said:
Not sure what you mean about the RAID 0 there coldsleep. RAID 0 is significantly faster than a single HDD, and whether you're in RAID 0 or a single drive, if one fails you lose your stuff either way.


You're right, I should have specified.

RAID 0 is certainly faster than a single hard drive. However, your chance of losing all your data on a RAID 0 array is higher than the chance of a single hard drive failing, as you have to factor in the individual chance of each hard drive failing.

If you get 2 hard drives, for the casual user, it's usually less traumatic to set them up separately and back up important data from one to the other.
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July 9, 2010 6:53:51 AM

I have a raid0 setup. Took my ages to get it working I think coldsleep helped out when I was asking for help. But it was quite a bit faster than a single drive though. Not insanely but there was a difference.
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July 9, 2010 2:46:50 PM

I guess it depends on you mobo, I simply plugged the 2 drives in, and it took all of 5 minutes to set it up in the BIOS and then do the CTRL+I thing to format the RAID setup. But older mobos don't support it at the hardware level so that requires loading up windows drivers and such.

I agree that technically, you chances of getting a bad HDD are increased with 2 in a RAID 0 set up, but in practice it's still fairly minimal. Given that you can get a pair of 500gb HDDs for $100 or less, while an SSD is at least $200, seems like an easy decision to me. And for another $50 you could get a 3rd HDD (or use an old one) for back up.

You can see the article here but here's a snapshot which shows 2 drives are clearly way faster than a single at large data transfers. Micro transfers however won't really be improved much, whereas an SSD does everything faster.
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July 10, 2010 10:38:06 AM

Alright guys, I've been looking around a little bit, and I adjusted some things in my budget, and this is what I am looking at now...

Intel i7-930 CPU and ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Motherboard

XIGMATEK Intel i7 Dark Knight CPU Cooler or Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler

Antec 1200 Full Tower with Antec CP-850 850W

EVGA GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600

I'm still sticking with the CPU and Motherboard.

After looking at the Scythe CPU Cooler that was suggested earlier on, I started looking at some reviews and doing a little research, and stumbled upon the Xigmatek Dark Knight. Does anyone know how these two compare? I tend to like the Dark Knight a bit better, I'm not sure why.

I decided to go with the GTX 480, after doing some research and looking around, and for $60 more, I think the GTX 480 should work well. I went with EVGA, because I am more familiar with the brand, and they always seemed to have good customer service (and lifetime warranty).

I think I'm going to trust you guys on the Memory that you picked out, plus it saves me a few bucks to put into another category.

I've also been looking at cases, and after learning about the GTX 480 excess heat (especially in SLI), I thought it would be better to go with something like the Antec 1200. Maybe it is a bit overkill, but I really don't want to have to worry about any ventilation issues caused by an overcrowded case or what have you. I figured the extra open space will keep the air flowing, which I like, especially later on if I go SLI.

I'm a bit worried about the power supply though. For the GTX 480 in SLI, I have seen reviews showing the power usage from the 600-750w range. Then again, I've also seen them saying you need 1000-1200w. Will this Antec 850w PSU work fine for this? I'm really not familiar with the quality of Antec products.

My other concern is about the multiple rails. To be honest I'm not even quite sure I understand the difference between a single and multi-rail PSU. Is there a certain number a PSU should have, to run GTX 480's? I guess I don't really need an explanation, I just need someone to say "single", or "4", lol. I was reading about it a bit, and how to properly distribute the power through the rails, but then later read that some (or most) multi rail PSU's now all share the same current regardless of what goes where. So, I'm a little bit confused in that area, plus the fact that it's 5:30am.

I'm not going to worry about HD's right now, I will probably look into them again in the coming months, but I should be fine for now.

But yeah, I guess my main focus right now would be the PSU, and making sure I have enough juice for down the road.

I appreciate all the comments guys, don't worry, I won't be bothering you too much longer.
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July 10, 2010 12:01:38 PM

well for the psu you will be pushing it too far bec i7 lets say 120 and 2xgtx 480 in sli
an hdd what 10watts 7fans in the case 40watts 10+40+120+702=872watts i would prefer getting a corsair 950tx or something like just to be on the safe side

here is a build

cpu & mobo:i7 930 and asus p6x58D-e
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
gpu & psu: evga gtx 480 & corsair 950tx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
ram: g.skill pi 6gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case: cm haf 922 (can handle the heat of gtx 480 and more roomy than the 1200)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
hdd:samsung f3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
odd: asus dvd writer reader
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
hsf:cm hyper 212plus (beats the dark night sometimes but not the mugen 2 but the mugen won't allow the pi's to fit anyways)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh...

Subtotal: $1,488.91

oh and for more cooling get a side fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

look at how roomy the case is


review: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
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July 10, 2010 1:54:57 PM

As always with manufacturer approved products, there are going to be other PSUs that work just fine, but SLI Zone has a list of certified PSUs for 470s & 480s in various configurations. The lowest-wattage PSU on there for 2x 480 is 900W, but if you're considering overclocking the i7-930, I'd think about going a little higher.
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July 10, 2010 6:50:02 PM

coldsleep said:
As always with manufacturer approved products, there are going to be other PSUs that work just fine, but SLI Zone has a list of certified PSUs for 470s & 480s in various configurations. The lowest-wattage PSU on there for 2x 480 is 900W, but if you're considering overclocking the i7-930, I'd think about going a little higher.



I was actually using that website, and I had a Antec CP1000 picked out which is on there, but I guess I was hoping I could pick one with a little bit less power and save a few bucks. Lol, but I guess the PSU is not something I want to cheap-out on.
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July 14, 2010 4:34:12 AM

Alright guys, I went ahead and made an order tonight.

This is what I went with...

Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper Black Edition

PSU - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 1000W

Motherboard - ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58

CPU - Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz Quad Core

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus

GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1.5GB

RAM - G.SKILL PI Series 6GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

CD/DVD Drive - ASUS Black CD/DVD Burner

HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM w/ Dual Processors

Extra Fans - COOLER MASTER 120mm Blue LED

I stuck with the Motherboard, CPU, and GTX 480. I'm trusting you guys on the G.Skill.

After looking at the Cases again, I decided to give the Storm Sniper a try, and got an SLI PSU to match. I'm a little bit worried about space and air flow, but from what I have read this is a pretty top notch case. So, hopefully it all works out.

On the CD/DVD drive and HDD, I just went for cheap for now. I will get a new HDD in a few months to act as my primary and that one will be for purely storage. I also figured I have no reason to get a BLU RAY CD/DVD drive, so I just went for something with good reviews and a very low price tag. Again, these were basically just to save a few bucks.

Overall the build is around (I believe) $1,450. Which is pretty good, considering when I first made my budget I was hitting this point without the GTX 480, CD/DVD drive, or the Case included.

I'm thinking later down the road (maybe 6 months from now) I will purchase a second HDD, a second GTX 480 for SLI, and possibly install a liquid cooling set up for some serious overclocking. However, for now the overclocking will be very minimal, if any at all.

Let me know what you guys think...hopefully it all turns out good.


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July 14, 2010 2:14:00 PM

Pretty sweet build, it'll definitely be a good one.
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