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July 6, 2010 11:32:33 AM

Hello,

I'm trying to build a PC which will be used mainly for HD video editing. I've searched a bit and found something like this:

Processor: Intel Core i7 920 or 930
MB: Gigabyte EX58-UDR3
Video card: Gigabyte R575D5-1GD Radeon HD 5750
RAM: 4 GB of Corsair DDR3
HDD: some 1,5 TB drive

I'm not sure what is most important component to take into consideration when editing HD videos so if you have some suggestions what should be improved or what could be replaced for something cheaper I'm all ears :) 

Also was thinking if it's a good idea to create a RAID 0 array for faster access to files. Any suggestions for that?


Regards

--Marek

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July 9, 2010 7:35:14 AM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Buwish
July 9, 2010 8:36:25 AM

Thats a good Rig for video editing. Just tweak it as need be. I have a RAID 0 scratch Array Velicoraptor x 2 but to be honest it doesnt get close to using its potential on most tasks. Software seems to be the bottleneck.
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July 9, 2010 12:35:35 PM

Wamphryi said:
Thats a good Rig for video editing. Just tweak it as need be. I have a RAID 0 scratch Array Velicoraptor x 2 but to be honest it doesnt get close to using its potential on most tasks. Software seems to be the bottleneck.



Thanks for the answer! What do you mean by tweaking it?
July 9, 2010 1:38:21 PM

You have NOT listed your intended sw toolsets (edit suites and plug-ins, etc.)

Regardless, this build is in error.

Specifically, any pro-graphics/edit suite that "needs" an INTEL 860 or 930 would also NEED an nVidia GPU that supports OpenGL 3.x.

(1) A Zotac 240 or 250
(2) A FERMI 460 or 470
(3) A Quadro FX 580 (or above).

*IF* this rig is only intended for light edit (HDV/MPEG4@<24Mbits/sec) using SONY VEGAS or Pinnacle LE, then you can save A LOT by using an AMD/AM3 compute core.

*IF* Pro-Graphics/edit (ADOBE/AVID/EDIUS, etc.) is a priority ... INTEL/nVidia is a "must".

*IF* Gaming is fairly important and prosumer (vegas/pinnacle/ulead/etc.) edit is only a casual (secondary) priority, then AMD/AM3 & Radeon 5670 (or higher), are "indicated".

Please let us know exactly how "serious" your edit ambitions are (for the next 4+years) and also let us know of which/any codecs (beyond 25Mbit/s or 4:2:0)

If none of this makes any sense, to you, then just disregard this post and do whatever seems good.

DO check the HW/system requirements and certified components, as well as "recommended" configs, for ALL sw products which you may wish to employ.

The pro-edit forums for any sw you may intend would be a very good place to inquire about appropriate configs for specific suites and toolsets.

Any graphics edit build should garner serious consideration, of these issues.

Much faster storage is also required, in order to capture HD-SDI (uncompressed-HD).

PNY also makes a graphics industry standard 9800GT-EE(PB) low-power tru-single-slot card that supports OpenGL3.0 ... It is very important to order the "(PB)" sub-model ... B&H photo carries it and Tiger often has it in stock but newegg does not. ... Beware that PNY does make another variant,(sub-model) of this same card, that DOES NOT support OpenGL3.x !! ... The PB model is the best choice for overall lite (med rez) gaming and lite pro-edit because it is a short card and a low power card and a true single slot card ... this 9800GT-EE(PB) is used in almost ALL (non Quadro) pre-built turnkey (ADOBE CS5, etc.) pro-graphics/edit rigs.

= regards =
July 9, 2010 8:53:44 PM

skow00 said:
Thanks for the answer! What do you mean by tweaking it?


Tweaking it means checking it for performance bottlenecks by studying the use of resources while the Rig performs its various tasks. For instance I use Corel Videostudio X3 (Consumer level software) and I find that for the most part the software itself is the bottleneck. However you may use different software and find that your HDD is a bottleneck for instance so then you boost it to RAID 0 perhaps. You may gain advantages form adding specialised equipment such as a Quadro but again that is very dependent on software.

Alvin is detailing a much more intense setup but that would be a great deal of money for a machine that you may never use to its full potential. Video Editing is an individual experience and what suits one may not suit another. There is no need to build a machine you could create Avatar on if you are mostly doing Family Movies. :-) Start with a good but budgeted build and then if you need more add it in later.
July 9, 2010 10:22:24 PM

Avitar took several warehouses full of Xeon render farms ... LoL.

no ... what MATTERS is what your toolsets "require" or "desire" ... Don't listen to a bunch of gamers about pro graphics builds ...

... For instance ... Go to B&H (National Broadcast Supplier) and check out the configurations of the pre-built turnkey ADOBE Creative Suite 5 systems ... LOOK at what procs and GPUs they employ. Also check out videoguys.com, who have faqs and articles on NLE build configs ... enjoy !!

B&H Photo Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 Turnkey Editing System

(as you can see, even a pro pre-built does not need to cost a whole lot)

3.06GHz Intel Core i7 CPU
3GB RAM
2TB Hard Drive Storage
nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT EE Graphics
Logic Premiere Pro Keyboard
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5
Windows 7 Professional (64-bit) (OEM)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/589562-REG/B_H_Ph...

... THIS IS A GREAT SITE ... BEEN AROUND SINCE MY FIRST P3 NLE.

Videoguys' DIY Video Editing Workstations

http://www.videoguys.com/Guide/C/DIY+Systems/Videoguys+...
July 9, 2010 10:38:33 PM


I mean ... can you afford $104 for the appropriate GPU ?

What is that? ... $20 more than the cheapest 5670?

PNY Technologies nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT EE 1024MB PCIe Display Card for Windows
DVI-I + DVI-I PCI Express 2.0 x16 1024MB GDDR3 RAM nVIDIA SLI Support Energy Efficient Design
B&H # PNGF9800EE Mfr # VCG98GTEE1XPB Price : $ 108.95 Instant Savings !

Offer ends 07/23/2010 - $ 4.51 You Pay : $ 104.44

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/654090-REG/PNY_Te...

July 10, 2010 12:09:25 AM

I would certainly go NVIDIA if my budget allowed. Currently I have a Radeon 4870 and would like to use CUDA. This is a good example of a tweak in the context I am meaning.
July 10, 2010 12:55:20 AM

well, if it works, for what you are doing ... then ... "what the hey?" (shrug)
July 12, 2010 6:58:12 AM

Thanks for the answers.

Basically we need a new PC for our skydiving club to edit the footeage we take while jumping. This means putting clips together, cutting them a bit, adding sound and some slight video efffects. Nothing too serious. We currently use Pinnacle 12 and 14 HD. Most of the footage is in 720p in 60 fps and sometimes 1080p in 30 fps. (definitely below 24Mbits/sec ). Apart from that no gaming neither any heavy graphical use is intended.

I haven't been following latest hardware for quite some time so I would appreciate if you could maybe list me some examples of hardware that would do.

Also is there any gains in using 64-bit processors over 32-bit in this case?


--Marek
July 12, 2010 2:36:41 PM

Clarification of your exact usage always helps us and works, to your benefit ...
... I am not goint to post specific links (too lazy and in a hurry, today) but you can paste these recommendations into newegg search, if you like.

I am going to go on the assumption that you are not placing the highest priority on fast renders but are more interested in a system that is affordable and will be adequate for 4 years.

Socket AM3 mobo with an 890 chipset (ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI/ASROCK ... in order).
Phenom-II x4 955 CPU (moderate OC)
2x2GB G.Skill Eco Series DDR3 1600 CAS7 RAM = 4GB TTL @ ~$110
A decent AM3 aftermarket cooler ... ~$30~$60
Zotac 250GT GPU (1GB) CONFIRM CARD HAS OpenGL 3.2 ... (mfg product page)
Intel M/G2 SSD @ 90GB .OR. OCZ VERTEX2 (Boot-Sys/Apps)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 (1TB) HDD (Media Content = 256GB fast-primary partition)
Any Samsung/Sony/ASUS/LG SATA DVDR drive ($26)
CASE: Antec 300 ILLUSION (with fans) ..or.. HAF 922
PSU: Corsair 650 Watt PSU
Win7-64Pro
A Sumsung/LG/ASUS monitor 1920x1200 (less than 6ms refresh) @ 23.5" minimum

Even INCLUDING Win7-64Pro and a 24" LCD, this rig should come in well under $1500 (delivered)


= tah-Dahhh =
July 12, 2010 3:06:22 PM

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OKGEAR 18" SATA 6 Gbps Cable, Right Angle to Right Angle W/ Metal Latch, UV Blue, Backward Compatible 3 Gbps and 1.5 Gbps
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SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
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Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
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ZOTAC ZT-20109-10P GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
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G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
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$159.99



Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa 120mm Long life CPU Cooler
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Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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July 13, 2010 5:40:37 AM

damn this looks good. Thanks a lot!
July 13, 2010 5:51:14 AM

One question though. That motherboard seem to have an integrated graphic card. Is there a gain of having two?
July 13, 2010 6:02:25 AM


No ... the IGP would only be for "portable utility" (retasking) of the mobo part, should it ever find a 2nd life, as an HTPC/NAS/DAW/Home-Office PC, etc. ... the IGP (alone) would be more than adequate for any of those uses ... It is a really GOOD IGP (for latest blu-ray/1080P video, etc.)

The IGP does have a somewhat large heatsink so, you may want to look at an 890FX board (without IGP) .

For your (this) build/config, the IGP would remain dormant and the nVidia GPU (and any othe/secondary nVidia discreet GPUs) would be the only active "ports" ... And note that the hybrid xfire does not apply to nVidia, since ALL mobos that have (purely) AMD/ATi chipsets, do not support SLI .

None of this should be of ANY concern ... unless you have NO interest in pro graphics toolsets (prosumer edit, et. al.).


I am just trying to lay it all out, here ... as clearly as possible ... don't be daunted ... it is a great build.

= Al =
July 13, 2010 6:36:35 AM

alright. thanks again!
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