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July 10, 2010 4:40:57 AM

First time building a computer.

Mobo: ASRock x58 extreme3
CPU: intel core i7 930
Case & PSU: Antec 900 Corsair TX750
Video: EVGA GeForce GTS250 512mb DDR3
Memory: Corsair XMS3 6gb (3x2gb) 240pin DDR3 1600
HD: Intel X25-V 40gb sataII ssd Western Dig. 1tb 7200rpm sata 6.0Gb/s
DVD Writer: Lite-on 24x sata dvd-rw
Monitor: Hanns G Hi221

Opinions? Advice?
Thank You

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a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2010 5:22:32 AM

i7-930 paired with a GTS250 is terrible if you intend to game. Since you didn't include your intent for this build lets hope its to calculate pi.
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2010 6:17:02 AM

^ +1

GTS 250 is getting old. I should know my 9800GTX+ is the same card. It will be fine for low resolutions but struggle at higher ones. The rest of the build looks great but if you want a balanced gaming computer go with at least an HD5770 and a HD5850 or GTX470 is the best choice.
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July 10, 2010 6:36:53 AM

1st of all you got an overkill processor
2nd you got a terrible video card
3rd you could get a much much better ssd if you spend a little more
4th you dont need that beefy PSU unless you will do crazy overclocking or do an SLI or CROSSFIRE
5th you don't need fancy rams and fancy motherboard
6th with all the saving you got i will be looking at an IPS Monitor
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July 10, 2010 7:13:35 AM

Plan on doing a little bit of everthing. Some gaming, nothing hardcore, I didn't build this with gaming in mind. Downloading movies and music ect. Making music, using it for a daw. No I haven't picked out a sound card yet. I realized my PSU is overkill after the fact. If anything I have room to grow right? What can I do to balance things out. Thanks for the input though guys.
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July 10, 2010 7:44:54 AM

what is your budget?
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2010 8:45:21 AM

To raclimja.......post something helpful or just do not post. This is a "help" forum not a criticize the poster forum.

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1st of all you got an overkill processor


The only processor I would call overkill is the 980X and even then it is not overkill if you need it. The 930 is a great all around processor.

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you don't need fancy rams and fancy motherboard


What does that even mean? He should buy junk? Or something slow because you think its too "fancy"?

Ok so the PSU is more than you need but it leaves upgrade room. Hell I have one too and it is way too much for what I have but I got it on super sale and I plan to use it for a few more builds to come.

bdfinn I like your build except for the graphics. If you want to stick with something in that price range then the HD5750 is a much better choice. It is a much newer design, runs cooler and with less voltage. is more powerful and has the advantage of DX11 support. For a few more dollars a HD 5770 will play most games up to 1920 resolution and is not really a "hard core gaming" card but would balance your new build nicely.
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July 10, 2010 10:32:15 AM

anort3 said:
To raclimja.......post something helpful or just do not post. This is a "help" forum not a criticize the poster forum.

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1st of all you got an overkill processor


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The only processor I would call overkill is the 980X and even then it is not overkill if you need it. The 930 is a great all around processor.



let the benchmarks and prices speak for themselves


an emulated core i5 750(core i7 860 Hyper-threading off) vs core i7 860(Hyper-threading on)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/09/08/intel-...



Core i5 750 $194.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Core i7 930 $289.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



price difference: $95




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you don't need fancy rams and fancy motherboard




CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.65V $159.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24-2N 1.35V $104.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



price difference: $55



ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard $164.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI P55A-G55 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $124.99 $7.56 Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



price difference: $29.44



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What does that even mean? He should buy junk? Or something slow because you think its too "fancy"?




as you can see the mobo i listed has SATA 6Gb/s USB3 and 2 PCI-e 2.0 8x 8x


the memory i listed has far far far lower voltage 1.35 and far far low latency 7-8-7-24-2N which will translate in lower power consumption, cooler and faster and more overclocking headroom can achieve a max overclock 1946MHz 6-9-6-24 @ 1.55V
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gskill_eco/3.ht...



is that what you call junk?



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Ok so the PSU is more than you need but it leaves upgrade room. Hell I have one too and it is way too much for what I have but I got it on super sale and I plan to use it for a few more builds to come.



just to give you an idea of how actually little the actual power consumption of a computer



a high end computer Core i7 920 + GTX 260 under stress test(both CPU AND GPU) running PRIME 95 + Furmark has maximum power consumption of just 371W yes you read it right (three hundred seventy one)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/system-w...


in real life usage you wont even get close to that power consumption
Furmark alone has a maximum power consumption of 280.7w


now tell me what is the sense to recommend a 700+w power supply?


now let put that reasoning in real life



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC $109.99 -$10 after mail in rebate $1.99 Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC $69.99 $9.65 Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



price difference: $32.34



and speaking of junk according to these test
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Seasonic-S12II-B...

virtually non existing ripple and noise,
has a real-world efficiency of 82.4% and 86.5%
can sustain an 588W overload and still achieve an efficiency of 81.7%

tell me any PSU these day that can achieve those figures at its price range

also according to this old tests
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2162&p...

it even manage to beat the corsair hx 620 in terms of efficiency



and some little things



Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" $94.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s $74.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

price difference: $20


Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 10,000RPM vs Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/sam...



Intel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2R5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC $109.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC $167.00 -$10 after mail in rebate Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


price difference $57.01



OCZ Vertex 2 vs Intel X25-m G2 160GB













Total Savings: $232.28 -upgrade of SSD $57.01 = $175.27



with $175.27 of savings i use that money and spend a little more on a better monitor(IPS)



Dell UltraSharp 2209WA $319.00
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?s...


comparison of a TN and IPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SjS6VCVAcA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3fgwawRBnk


viewing angles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coMpfMS91No


review
http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/467862-my-re...
according to reviews this is the best 22" monitor
very low input lag
excellent picture quality
excellent viewing angles
color accuracy
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2010 5:49:29 PM

lol That took a while I bet ;)  That was what I was trying to say you should have done the first time. Especially since the OP clearly stated that it is his first build. Be consturctive and post alternatives. I know what parts would be better.......a first time builder does not. Of course there is still too much tech stuff aimed at me and not enough real world language aimed at the OP.
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July 11, 2010 3:22:13 AM

Hey thanks for having my back anort! Raclimja, wow dude your deep in this stuff. I get what your saying. Like anort said, I am a first time builder. I wish I would've done this before I bought all this ***. No lookin' back now! Nevertheless i'm up and running smooth. I'm proud of myself despite some bad choices. The only thing i might change is my video card. Thanks for the input guys!
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
July 11, 2010 4:16:17 AM

Nah your choices are fine. You wanted a fast computer and you got one thats all that matters. You are also fairly futureproof for years to come with that i7 930. Enjoy what you have and be proud you did it yourself....I know I was my first build! :D 
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