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ATI Radeon HD 4200 or Intel 4500M?

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June 1, 2010 11:59:09 AM

The question is as the thread title but more info follows if helpful (with gratitude for reading this far).

I am getting a laptop for my wife and the budget is reasonably low (£400). The main use will be work, surfing and streaming video (bbc iplayer). But given past experience I would like something which runs some games for when trash is on TV. The graphics card is not my priority as I'm more worried about a decent amount of memory and cpu speed for when I'm doing my own work on it.

Unfortunately I have no idea when it comes to graphic cards. Previous laptops of my wife (provided by employers) have failed to run anything beyond Civ (the original). I have seen two laptops from Compaq (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195966 and http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195966) and wondered which of ATI Radeon HD 4200 or Intel 4500M would be better given everything else is much of a muchness.

For further info, if it helps, I'm not going to be playing fast paced high graphic games, I'll us my pc. With the mouse on a laptop I'll stick to turn based games like Civ IV (recommended 128 MB Video Card w/ DirectX 8 support - pixel & vertex shaders) or Championship Manager (Direct X 9 compatible. 128 Mb nVidia FX5600, ATi Radeon 9800 or equivalent) and if it could run Civ 5 I would be happy as larry (spec not announced yet anyway)

Thank you for your time and any advice :) 

Cheers,

James
a c 169 U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 1:01:47 PM

4200M is a faster choice
a c 189 U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 1:21:29 PM

For just office works then you'll be fine with both of options above...

But just like Maziar said, 4200M is a faster chip... :) 
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a b U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 2:02:31 PM

4200 it is. I would be interested in seeing both laptop Options but I can only see one. Do you mean that the same model have a choice of HD4200 or 4500M?
a c 169 U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 5:13:41 PM

Actually the OP posted 2 links,but you can click on one of the to open it,but for the other one you have to copy-paste in the browser
a b U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 11:41:51 PM

Maziar said:
Actually the OP posted 2 links,but you can click on one of the to open it,but for the other one you have to copy-paste in the browser

Yes, I saw that. But it's exactly the same link and goes to the same webpage. That's why I said I can see only one model. He must have not noticed that he copy pasted the same link too.
a b U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 11:54:42 PM

Edit: Sorry triple post...
a b U Graphics card
June 1, 2010 11:55:24 PM

jttrueman said:

Unfortunately I have no idea when it comes to graphic cards. Previous laptops of my wife (provided by employers) have failed to run anything beyond Civ (the original). I have seen two laptops from Compaq (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195966 and http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195966) and wondered which of ATI Radeon HD 4200 or Intel 4500M would be better given everything else is much of a muchness.


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June 2, 2010 12:46:13 PM

My apologies randomkid, I now can't find the other link as presumably they have sold out. A similar product is http://www.ebuyer.com/product/186604. They are reasonably similar spec but different builds and the Intel costs more.

Can I just check that you all mean the ATI Radeon 4200 chip as someone referred to it as 4200M?

And one last thing, I am presuming they would they both be fine for reasonably old games such as Civ IV

Cheers
a b U Graphics card
June 2, 2010 1:55:40 PM

I doubt the 4500M. It is very far from HD4200 performance:

"The Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M (GMA 4500M) (sometimes also called GMA X4500 M) is a DirectX 10 capable integrated shared memory graphic card for laptops. The mGPU is integrated in the Intel GM40 and GL40 chipsets and designed for cheap laptops.

Compared to the GMA 4500M HD, the 4500M features a slower core clock (400 MHz versus 533MHz) and is thus a bit slower in games.

The chip itself is capable of supporting the CPU to decode HD videos, but because of the slower clock rate, the 4500M has troubles decoding 1080p videos fluently and therefore has no full Blu-Ray logo support.

The gaming performance of the 4500M is not really good. Only less demanding 3D games and very old games may run fluently in low detail settings. Sims 3 and F.E.A.R. for example achieved 30 fps (with stutters) in low deatails and low resolustions (combined with a fast CPU). 2D applications, games and Windows Vista / Windows 7 Aero are supported without any performance problems.

Compared to other modern integrated chipsets like the GeForce 9400M or the Radeon HD 3200, the 4500M is clearly the slowest especially for 3D games. Still the power consumption of the chip is quite competitive, so it may be the right choice for office tasks."

Source:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accel...
a b U Graphics card
June 2, 2010 2:03:33 PM

jttrueman said:
My apologies randomkid, I now can't find the other link as presumably they have sold out. A similar product is http://www.ebuyer.com/product/186604. They are reasonably similar spec but different builds and the Intel costs more.
Cheers

By the way, between the two laptop options you linked, the choice is between better graphics performance (AMD) versus slightly better CPU+ 3xmore HD capacity (Intel)
June 2, 2010 3:20:25 PM

Cheers all (and randomkid in particular), decision made. AMD it is.

Sorry for being a bit of a novice. I just want to make sure I get something that can do all it needs to.

Randomkid: the original was closer in spec but then I posted the wrong link and couldn't find the original. Yes the CPU is marginally better but it costs 10% more and I don't need the HD capacity.

a b U Graphics card
June 2, 2010 3:26:57 PM

Well done. Good to go, then. :) 
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