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Difference between x58 and P67 motherboards?

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April 12, 2011 8:00:52 PM

Okay so I am just finalizing my newest gaming build and am stumped on what kind of mobo to go with. I've done my research and from what i understand (correct me if i'm wrong) the x58 mobo's give you better connections for multi-gpu usage (like triple sli with 16x16x8, or sli with 16x16)....the p67's on the otherhand offer you access to newer i7's which do offer plus's of their own.

I am looking at going to dual sli in the future with a dedicated physX card (Not too sure about triple sli as of yet, but wouldn't write it off completly)...knowing this would you tell me to go with an x58 or a p67 mobo?

like i said I'm not foreign to this stuff, but i'm no Einstein either so feel free to correct any info....THANKS!
April 12, 2011 8:06:51 PM

Couple more things:
My budget for the whole build is "around" $1000. I am not afraid however to stray higher or lower a bit, it just has to be worth the extra mulah.

Also for this newest build I am limited to Tigerdirect.com because I have a gift card through them, so if you wanna refer a specific mobo it would help if you could link from there....thanks again!
a c 207 Ĉ ASUS
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 12, 2011 8:30:23 PM

The only correction is the 'native PCIe' X58, 32-lanes, is x16; x16/x16; x16/x8/x8, and if you install a third GPU even for PhysX you'll have x16/x8/x8 SLI + PhysX.

The 'native PCIe' P67, 16 lanes, is x16, x8/x8 and some x8/x8/...x4.

If you're looking at $1,000 then:
P8P67 DELUXE {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9128 RAID 0/1, eSATA, BT, Dual Intel/Realtek LAN, USB3 Ft Panel}

P8P67 PRO {2-WAY, x8/x8 + x4 open, Marvell 9120 no RAID, eSATA, BT}

Knowing no more I'd recommend the following:
$180 P8P67 PRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$224 i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$43 Scythe SCMG-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ripjaws X:
$45 2x2GB -> F3-10666CL9D-4GBXL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
//OR//
$85 2x4GB F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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$492 ~ $532
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$508 ~ $468 Balance for GPUs, SSD/HDD, Case, PSU, etc...

Then add from there based upon your budget.

Q - What monitor?
Q - Are the GPUs part of the $1000??!!!
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April 12, 2011 8:56:36 PM

to answer your two Q's.....I already have a 23" ldc monitor and the gpu is part of the $1000, but like i said, i'm not afraid to wonder a little higher than anticipated....just as long as i'm getting a good deal.
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a c 216 V Motherboard
April 12, 2011 8:58:03 PM

For a gaming system, with or without a budget, the P67 wins. Read the conclusion of some tests here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-gaming-3-way-sl...

With multi strong graqphics cards, you will run out of cpu power on a i7-990X overclocked first.

A 2500K/P67 based system with an overclock is the way to go, regardless of budget.(add $100 for 2600K if $100 is not that important to you)

On a single 1080P monitor, there is no need for multiple cards. A single GTX570 or GTX580 is about all the graphics you can use..

If you will be using a 2560 x 1600 monitor, or 3 monitor surround gaming, then dual cards are in order.
a c 207 Ĉ ASUS
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 13, 2011 12:34:56 AM

@ gibbey531 - on a single HD monitor get the P67; no doubt best option. See -> http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/Build...

============================= Article P67 vs X58 Agenda =============================

Deceptive Article -> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-gaming-3-way-sl...
Problems Summary: 1. CPU deliberate skewing, 2. PCIe bandwidth deliberate skewing: 0xAA or 4xAA vs real world's 8xAA or 16xAA

Real World vs Fantasy Land

Speaking of 3 Monitors, 3/4-WAY SLI, and X58 vs P67 - don't be taken in by the smoke and mirrors. I know Tom from here and we argued about his "review" way before it's release, and the deliberate agenda. I not going to blow apx $3000 just to make my own article. Tom purchased his P67, I'm purchasing my X68 soon enough.

Test Config:
CPU:
i7-2600K 3.40-3.80 GHz; Overclocked to 4 GHz at 1.25 V
vs
Intel Core i7-920 2.66-2.93 GHz; Overclocked to 4 GHz at 1.40 V

Instead of, same priced:
i7-2600K 3.40-3.80 GHz; Overclocked to 4 GHz at 1.25 V
vs
Intel Core i7-960 3.20-3.47 GHz; Overclocked to 4 GHz at 1.40 V

Quite frankly, most people with 3/4-WAY and X58's also have the i7 980X.

Next, NEVER confuse AF with AA. I asked Tom to run the tests @ 8xAA & 16xAA - anyone who's going to running 3/4-WAY is also running 8xAA or 16xAA --- unless they like blurry out of their $1500-$2000+ GPUs --- but that would have shown the X58 as the winner which was not the goal of the article. The goal of the article was to publish bias and load the dice by limiting PCIe saturation. The increase of 8xAA or 16xAA would push saturation of the PCIe lanes particularly those of the 16 lanes in the P67 vs X58 32 lanes. Apparently Tom didn't want to push that button in the article -- which is deceptive or lets call it 'controlled outcome.'

Further, anyone I know with a 3-WAY or 4-WAY has 5900± x 1080 which represents the GTX 470 or higher, also apparently Tom said he didn't have the $ money and/or access to borrow 3 HD monitors. :heink: 

However, the X58 prevails on any legitimate tests I've seen with 2560 x 1600 {30" LCD} or higher resolution and takes the clear lead. Odd considering the SB is 16%± more efficient but yielding nothing in return ±2%? Oh, yeah...16 lanes.

Moreover, I suggested to Tom to take his P67 bias and find another person with the same X58 bias and go head-to-head. I got the mute-button. In reading the conclusion: I guess we all can BS with a straight face.

Don't get me wrong, I have no plans to build more LGA 1366's. My next build for my Gaming rig will be on the LGA 2011 with: 8-core/8-HT, 32-lanes PCIe 3.0, Quad Channel and likely a PCIe based SSD in 3/4-WAY which is the enthusiast/extreme Sandy Bridge platform.



April 13, 2011 12:50:48 AM

getting an NF 200 p67 board is the way to go tho I don't know that you can add a physx card without weakening your graphics power a bit. For 2 way SLI, the Asus Revolution is the way to go and for three way SLI, the Maximus is best tho expensive. Adding the nf200 to the board adds 30 or 40 dollars. Also, I would get the 2600 K cause it has hyper threading. These boards are easier to keep cool while overclocking much higher
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