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July 10, 2010 5:42:23 PM

BUDGET RANGE: $1,000 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE: gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

OVERCLOCKING: Definitely down the road

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Definitely down the road

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Have a local fry's nearby, however haven't seen any great deals on an i5/i7 with a good mobo*

*mobo MUST have a pciex1 that is not blocked, I have a wireless D-Link adaptor going in (6xx i believe...), and if im not mistaken x16/x4 is pretty bad for crossfire but x8/x8 is perfectly fine correct?

would prefer 500ish GB of storage

currently have a pentium D, 8600GT, 120GB HDD system with a half dead burner and emachines case, I can't think of anything salvageable from it but maybe you guys will...

So far i have this from newegg:

El cheapo burner (ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX 650W PSU & Lian Li K62 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

XFX 5850 & OCZ 4GB(2GBx2) DDR3 2000 1.65v Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I5-750 & Asus sabertooth 55i mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

comes to $1,152.01 after shipping and tax (i live in socal...)

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July 10, 2010 6:06:50 PM

For $5 more, you can get a faster 1 TB drive, a Samsung Spinpoint F3.

That PSU is reported to be excellent. I have the 850W version myself.

However, OCZ has a bad reputation for not working at the rated voltage, and 2000 MHz CAS 10 is probably less than ideal. You might check out the other combos with that graphics card...650-850W XFX PSUs seem to be combo-ed, among other things. The $50 combo with the case is pretty insane though.

Or you could get this fully shrouded XFX 5850 in a combo with Win 7 - only a $10 discount, but it's something. :) 

This G.Skill RAM is 1600 MHz CAS 7 and runs at 1.35V, which is pretty much better all around than the OCZ memory, for $105.

And yes, 8x/8x is fine for Crossfire. There is maybe a 4% performance difference with 2 high-end GPUs vs. 16x/16x.

I haven't seen that mobo before, but it looks decent. Here's another option: i5-750 & ASUS P7P55D-E for $360. Mobo has USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s.

If you need to get down to $1000 max, you might try looking an AMD build.
July 10, 2010 7:49:01 PM

The reason for drive was the $20 off coupon, bringing it to 50. (Also i have never managed to use more than a 320GB drive so i figure even with games getting bigger 500GB should be plenty...)

That PSU should be powerful enough for crossfiring 5850s and ocing the i5 correct? (Don't worry I'd buy an after market heatsink before ocing XD)

I don't really have a brand preference between intel and AMD, just been hearing so much about the i5's bang for buck value that i have not really looked into AMD yet, what would be a comparable processor from AMD?

I'm happy with USB 2.0 speeds and SATA 6 Gb/s would only help if i got a fast enough drive correct? Also i believe i heard somewhere crossfire/sli bogs down the 1156 so you don't really get 3.0 dual gpu-ing, can you confirm that?

Is OCZ's rep that bad for Ram? was considering running it slower at tighter timings but if its that bad....

basicly the cheaper the better for this build... currently only have 730, but will have 1k by the end of july.
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July 10, 2010 8:11:16 PM

Up to you on the drive...I didn't see the $20 off. The Spinpoint is a little faster, as it uses newer, higher data density platters, but it's not a big deal if you aren't interested.

According to ATI 5850 system requirements, they recommend 600W for 2x 5850. If you also want to overclock, I'd suggest stepping up to the 750W just to have some headroom.

The most comparable processor to the i5-750 is the Phenom II X4 955, which sells for $160. Here's Anandtech's head-to-head comparison. On most games, the processors are pretty equal, except for some reason, on Far Cry 2. On other benchmarks, the i5-750 is usually ahead, but not by all that much in most cases.

The i5-750 is an excellent processor, don't get me wrong. It's just usually $50-100 more expensive than an equivalent AMD gaming build.

I haven't used OCZ myself, but there have been a fair number of posts on here indicating that it needs to be overvolted some, which is generally a problem for Intel.

I believe that Gigabyte's implementation of USB 3.0/SATA 6 Gb/s on P55 is poorly designed and uses some of the PCI lanes. Everything I've heard indicates that ASUS is ok.

You can get a Phenom II X4 955 and MSI 890GXM-G65 combo for $260. That mobo does 8x/8x, though of course with AMD, SLI isn't supported, though if you go with the 5850 that won't be an issue.

Alternatively this combo comes with an 890FX board that does 16x/16x, USB 3.0, and SATA 6 Gb/s for $320 ($300 after $20 MIR).

Currently, SATA 6 Gb/s is only useful for a couple of SSDs, standard mechanical HDDs can't even max out SATA II. I'm merely mentioning USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s as possible future-resistant options. USB 3.0 isn't mainstream yet, but I expect it to be within a year or two.
July 10, 2010 11:48:22 PM

Thanks for the info. I'll probably let Fry's proc & mobo deals be my deciding factor over the nxt 2 weeks as to go intel or AMD..
July 11, 2010 3:58:39 AM

$750AR, USB/SATA III, 8/8 CF able +$100 for OS
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