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July 11, 2010 10:09:08 PM

Hi I'm building my first comp, used mostly for Gaming. I've decided this will be an AMD based comp and plan to use an HD 5870 GPU. My current components are running $1480, Looking to cut $100-$200 off if possible with limited performance loss.


Questions:

This is my first build is everything compatible?

CPU - I currently plan to buy the 6 core Phenom II X6. I'd like to say my comp has 6 cores (lol) but is there a substantial performance difference in games over the Phenom II X4 965? This could be a place to save $115.

Motherboard - I don't much about motherboards. I currently plan to go with ASUS M4A79T. I want to be able to do crossfire x (in 2 16x) in the future. Whats the best motherboard to do this? All are around $150-$200 anyway.

PSU - I want to be able to do crossfire x in the future, but is my current PSU overkill?

Any other suggestions?


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the month

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, Speakers, Keyboard+Mouse, sound card

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, D/C just need a good return policy COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Full tower case, AMD/ATI

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the Future

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: none

Current Build:

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX

ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Flare 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS

SAPPHIRE 100281-3SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

2 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive in RAID 0

Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Thanks for the help!
July 11, 2010 11:03:47 PM

Drop to the 955 BE. If you wanna get really fancy get this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And 750W is pretty much the sweet spot to Xfire 5870s.

But I really think that cutting the 1090T to the 955 BE will be exactly what you need to get your budget down without any sort of performance decrease in gaming.
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July 12, 2010 12:08:12 AM

well you should either go to the 955 or the 1055 while you can still say its 6 cores its also 100$ cheaper and only like 10-20 more than the 965

i very highly recommend the mobo that cmc has recommended definitely the way to go on this

a very nice case that you could consider are one of these three (A)coolermaster Storm sniper Black (B) coolermaster haf 922/932 (C)Nzxt Tempest Evo

All are great for air cooling with the option of adding more fans and all are fairly cheap with cheapest being only 100 and most expensive being 140
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July 12, 2010 12:35:56 AM

While the cases listed by a2l3 are all good, the one the OP has listed, the Antec 900 Two is also an exceptional case with fantastic cooling. Considering it comes with 3 120mm fans and a big 200mm top exhaust fan. Also allows for adding 2 more 120mm fans.
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July 12, 2010 12:44:14 AM

I can't recommend a 6 core cpu for gaming. Get a really fast tri-core or Dual core.
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July 12, 2010 12:46:43 AM

I'd stick with an excellent Quad core. More and more games are coming out than can utilize all 4 cores. Bad Company 2, GTA IV to just name a few.

Be it Phenom or Athlon, I'd go quad.
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July 12, 2010 12:48:16 AM

the storm sniper comes with 3 200mm fans 1 just for the hdds 1 at the side pulling directly at the mobo and another at the top blowing it all out.

the rear can hold up to 1 120mm fan and theres a mount on the bottem for a 140mm/120mm fan.

each of the 200mm fans at the top and side can be changed to 2 120mm fans

the case has a fan controller at the top and can turn the leds on and off while also having 4 usb ports an esata port and a firewire port

each and every opening on the case has filters to keep the dust out

it is the case i'm currently using and haven't regretted buying it for a second

But cmc is correct the 900 two is also a great case :p 
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July 12, 2010 12:51:26 AM

I'm really impressed with the OPs build personally. Besides his lean towards a 6-core for the sake of having it, he put together a pretty sound build. Rarely have I seen OPs suggest any of the staple cases that we all promote regularly.
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July 12, 2010 12:53:18 AM

yeah it is a great build its basically the build im gonna build in a week or two in fact i think he helped me by showing me some nice ram :p 
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July 12, 2010 1:48:17 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions!

I'll go with the X4 965 because its not worth $100 for no noticeable performance, even if its not "OMG 6 CORES" lol.

I'll also go with the motherboard cmcghee358 suggested, and spend $30 extra for 500 more GB on 2 of the HDs a1l3 suggested.

Is XFX a good PSU brand? The PSU I have comes with a 5 years limited warranty so I don't think I'll have to worry about it.
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July 12, 2010 1:50:53 AM

That PSU is really good, they mirror SeaSonic's setup and went with quality.

One thing on the CPU. The 955 and 965 are the exact same chip except when the 955 has a 16x multiplier(making it 3.2GHz) the 965 has a 17x multiplier (making it 3.4GHz)

Now you'd think "duh, 3.4 is better than 3.2" yes thats correct but the perk of a black edition processor is the multiplier is unlocked. So with a 955, go into the BIOS and without chaning the voltage, make the multiplier 17x effectively giving you a 965 chip at 955 price? Make sense?
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July 12, 2010 1:59:33 AM

oh good point about the 955 vs 965, I'll just save $20 and get the 955.
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July 12, 2010 7:46:36 AM

Have to agree with a1I3 : either 955BE or 1055T (with an aftermkt HSF and clock away to handle stuff now and tomorrow if getting the latter hehe) Also if u looking for 16/16 CFable AM3 mobos : that Asus 790FX is extremely overpriced when our very own forums had done a 890FX shoot out here

Five AMD 890FX-Based Motherboards Compared

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-890fx-crosshair...
So since u picked out a non USB 3.0 16/16 i shall assume this feature is not a tie breaker and as per the review: Tha Biostar TA890FXE at its current price and it's performance vs the highest end 890FX out there wins the price/performance 16/16 890FX crown hehe


So in summary @ $1115AR we have:

Edit: You best get that CM 212+ cooler from elsewhere cos Egg has it overpriced hehe
Eg: Ewiz has it for $29! Making total cost $1095AR :p 
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-B10212&title=Co...
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July 12, 2010 6:05:06 PM

bat says it all :p  though the reason id recommend usb 3.0 (imo) is that you don't want to come to a crossroads later on when you'd like to buy something and discover its usb 3.0 speeds but you cant utilize it(the speed). that for me is enough to get the ud5 :p 

You should really consider the 1055 its only 20 more while it also has the turbo cores (when only using up to 3 cores it will put more power into the cores and raise the clock rate, for example the 1055t while in turbo will go up to 3.3ghz on three cores or less)
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July 12, 2010 6:15:35 PM

hey guys, no Phenom processor supports RAM speeds higher than 1333 MHz am I right ? So, either get some other RAM with lower timings and clock speed, or manually lower timings and clock speeds on the RAM youve chosen, which might the best thing if you have experience, cause ive heard that G. Skill produces top quality and can reach really low timings when you underclock them.
or am I completely off ?
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July 12, 2010 11:41:36 PM

afaik 1333 is the Official number but i think its more about the mobo than the cpu but dont take my word on that as im not 100% on it
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