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Hello everyone,
After 5 years culminating in some actually pretty good performance on Crysis, my Dell 8300 desktop finally stopped being able to run the latest games (the bottleneck being the single core P4 3ghz CPU).
After a lot of thought, I've decided to build my own rig in the hopes of getting the best specs on a price of >$1,500. I'm kinda nervous about doing so since it's my first build and I can't really afford to purchase replacement components if I fry one on the first go, but Dell's prices are overinflated and their quality is FAR from what they used to be, and while IBuyPower offers some good rigs at surprisingly good prices (nearly on par with a homebuilt with Newegg components), I've heard mixed reviews about their workmanship and quality.
I have some do-it-yourself experience; a couple years ago I upgraded my Dell 8300 with a new GPU (the last of the AGPs), added in a couple bars of RAM and a second hard drive, and swapped the power supply for a stronger model. I managed this without frying anything and got good performance with no issues right up until about last year when games requiring duel-core CPUs started showing up. However, I've never installed a motherboard or CPU before, but have seen instructional videos on youtube that seem to be a good guide to doing so.
Anyway, my proposed rig is:
CPU: Intel i7-930 2.8ghz LGA 1366 - $290
GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5850 - $295 (going with XFX due to their lifetime warranty)
Motherboard: ASUS P6T LGA 1366 X58 - $200 (or Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R for $210)
RAM: Corsair XMS3 6gb DDR3 1600 - $155
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm w/ 64mb cache - $110
Power Supply: Kingwin Lazer 1000w - $160 (best rated value for money 1000w unit I could find)
Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro - $110
Case: NZXT Tempest Evo ATX Mid-Tower - $90 (large and hopefully roomy for a mid-tower, with 5 case fans)
CD-Drive: Whatever is on sale
Operating System: Windows 7 Home 64 bit - $100 (I'm using XP right now, so I need to buy a new OS)
The total runs to $1510 with Newegg components, and the build seems to be reasonably future-proof and upgradable at least for the next few years.
Anyway, I've got two general sets of questions; regarding the build itself, and also regarding whether or not I should be attempting this at all.
I'm mostly wondering if I'll be OK going with the stock CPU cooling unit if I'm not planning to do any overclocking. The NZXT Tempest Evo comes with 5 built-in fans, so I figure I'm good as far as heat goes. Is that a good idea? Is it worth it to spend an extra $50 for a low-to-mid end third-party CPU heatsink/fan and some artic silver? Is installing the stock cooling CPU heatsink/fan w/ thermal pad easier and less hassle, or is it pretty much the same as installing a third-party cooling unit?
I'm also kind of wondering if I'll have any issues with the P6T motherboard; I chose it because it seems to be one of the most used/recommended for a i7 build, but I've heard it has issues detecting RAM under certain circumstances. Of course, people seem to have serious complaints about pretty much every motherboard out there, so I have to go with something.
Finally, given my level of experience (have swapped out GPU/power supply/hard drive/RAM without destroying my pre-built system) is building my own a good idea at all? I think I'm aware of most necessary precautions (beware of static, take care when installing the CPU) and am planning to make extensive use of included instructions, online guides, and youtube videos.
How much margin of error do I have? Will most components work fine as long as I'm not recklessly careless, or will one single slip of the hand (i.e.accidentally tapping the side of the motherboard against something inside of the case while trying to slide it into place) fry my $200+ components?
I guess my main, overarcing question is: if I follow the instructions and work carefully, will building a new system be relatively straightforward? Or are major issues (failure to start, faulty components, etc.) that require a good degree of time and expertise to fix pretty common when homebuilding?
Any advice or general thoughts about my proposed system anybody has would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, everybody.
After 5 years culminating in some actually pretty good performance on Crysis, my Dell 8300 desktop finally stopped being able to run the latest games (the bottleneck being the single core P4 3ghz CPU).
After a lot of thought, I've decided to build my own rig in the hopes of getting the best specs on a price of >$1,500. I'm kinda nervous about doing so since it's my first build and I can't really afford to purchase replacement components if I fry one on the first go, but Dell's prices are overinflated and their quality is FAR from what they used to be, and while IBuyPower offers some good rigs at surprisingly good prices (nearly on par with a homebuilt with Newegg components), I've heard mixed reviews about their workmanship and quality.
I have some do-it-yourself experience; a couple years ago I upgraded my Dell 8300 with a new GPU (the last of the AGPs), added in a couple bars of RAM and a second hard drive, and swapped the power supply for a stronger model. I managed this without frying anything and got good performance with no issues right up until about last year when games requiring duel-core CPUs started showing up. However, I've never installed a motherboard or CPU before, but have seen instructional videos on youtube that seem to be a good guide to doing so.
Anyway, my proposed rig is:
CPU: Intel i7-930 2.8ghz LGA 1366 - $290
GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5850 - $295 (going with XFX due to their lifetime warranty)
Motherboard: ASUS P6T LGA 1366 X58 - $200 (or Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R for $210)
RAM: Corsair XMS3 6gb DDR3 1600 - $155
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm w/ 64mb cache - $110
Power Supply: Kingwin Lazer 1000w - $160 (best rated value for money 1000w unit I could find)
Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro - $110
Case: NZXT Tempest Evo ATX Mid-Tower - $90 (large and hopefully roomy for a mid-tower, with 5 case fans)
CD-Drive: Whatever is on sale
Operating System: Windows 7 Home 64 bit - $100 (I'm using XP right now, so I need to buy a new OS)
The total runs to $1510 with Newegg components, and the build seems to be reasonably future-proof and upgradable at least for the next few years.
Anyway, I've got two general sets of questions; regarding the build itself, and also regarding whether or not I should be attempting this at all.
I'm mostly wondering if I'll be OK going with the stock CPU cooling unit if I'm not planning to do any overclocking. The NZXT Tempest Evo comes with 5 built-in fans, so I figure I'm good as far as heat goes. Is that a good idea? Is it worth it to spend an extra $50 for a low-to-mid end third-party CPU heatsink/fan and some artic silver? Is installing the stock cooling CPU heatsink/fan w/ thermal pad easier and less hassle, or is it pretty much the same as installing a third-party cooling unit?
I'm also kind of wondering if I'll have any issues with the P6T motherboard; I chose it because it seems to be one of the most used/recommended for a i7 build, but I've heard it has issues detecting RAM under certain circumstances. Of course, people seem to have serious complaints about pretty much every motherboard out there, so I have to go with something.
Finally, given my level of experience (have swapped out GPU/power supply/hard drive/RAM without destroying my pre-built system) is building my own a good idea at all? I think I'm aware of most necessary precautions (beware of static, take care when installing the CPU) and am planning to make extensive use of included instructions, online guides, and youtube videos.
How much margin of error do I have? Will most components work fine as long as I'm not recklessly careless, or will one single slip of the hand (i.e.accidentally tapping the side of the motherboard against something inside of the case while trying to slide it into place) fry my $200+ components?
I guess my main, overarcing question is: if I follow the instructions and work carefully, will building a new system be relatively straightforward? Or are major issues (failure to start, faulty components, etc.) that require a good degree of time and expertise to fix pretty common when homebuilding?
Any advice or general thoughts about my proposed system anybody has would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, everybody.