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July 16, 2010 4:53:03 PM

Here is my current list. I have

cpu AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX
Memory OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK cpu + mobo = 160.98 -20 Rebate = 140.98
case GMC X-7 Black ABS / SECC steel Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ three fans- 1x 120mm front fan, 1x 120mm rear fan, 1x 80mm side-panel fan 19.99
mobo MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard 79.99 - 10 Rebate = 69.99
PSU Antec 650W EarthWatt 50$+

Is there any thing that I need? How is the memory combined with the MSI MOBO? Any other comments would be appreciated. Thank you.





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July 16, 2010 5:14:26 PM

I wouldn't get OCZ RAM. It has a tendency to be incompatible with a wide range of motherboards. Also, a better board would the Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 (if you don't need onboard graphics) or the Asus M4A88T-M (if you do). It should be about the same cost, but much higher quality.

Depending on what GPU you plan on using, you could easily drop that PSU down. If you're using onboard only with no plans of adding a discrete card, pick up a quality unit under 400W. If you're going to use the HD 5770 or lower, a unit under 450W would be fine. A 5850 or 5870 would need a 450-550W unit. The only cards that'd need 650W or more would be one of nVidia's new cards (GTX 470, 480) or the HD 5970.
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July 16, 2010 5:25:38 PM

Thanks MadAdmiral and batuchka.
About the PSU, this is my first time building a PC, I wanna use average/ budget components first and I am planing on upgrading more later on. (Possibly a hex core AMD cpu). For 50 bucks, i think the antec 650W is a great deal. I would also look into a different memory card. I currently already have the PSU and the case ordered. XD and deciding on the CPU, MEMORY, and mobo.
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July 16, 2010 5:27:20 PM

If u have no particularly CPU intensive tasks that Rana 440 is a solid choice at a good price
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July 16, 2010 5:35:03 PM

Is it going to be fine if I am using a PSU that has more power rating than what the system actually need?
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July 16, 2010 5:36:48 PM

A rig only draws as much power as it needs so ya it's fine
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July 16, 2010 5:38:25 PM

You can, but you'd be wasting money both when you buy the unit and every time you use it. Using a PSU that's a great deal larger than you need meanst hat it will be operating a very low loads. A PSU is most efficient (i.e. uses the least amount of power and saves on your power bill) when it's at 50% load. At load above or below that, it begins to cost you extra.
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July 16, 2010 5:49:27 PM

Assuming that I would upgrade to a better CPU such as hex core and a better GPU such as 5850. In that case, a 650W PSU is just enought for the system. I want to buy the components that are future proved. So I don't have to worry about replacing them later. That is the reason I picked the PSU and the Momotherboard.
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July 16, 2010 5:51:25 PM

How come the MSI board is not as good as the Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 ? MSI uses DDR3 and it can support hex core AMD cpu
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July 16, 2010 5:58:48 PM

The hex core doesn't really mean much to the power usage. And 650W is enough for two 5850s. I'd at least consider decrease it to a 550W unit.

The MIS board is lower quality. Generally, Asus and Gigabyte are considered the hgihest quality, followed by MSI and EVGA. Just because it supports things doesn't mean its a good board. And to be technical, all AM3 boards will support DDR3 and hex core CPUs, so that's not uncommon. The 8xx chipsets only really give you the ability to drop in a X6 CPU (which you won't need unless you're doing heavy CPU work like encoding or rendering) without first updating the BIOS (which is free and may even come with the board). You're not getting much for the extra money.

The only potential issue with the Gigabyte is that it doesn't have onboard graphics, which it appears you're planning on using. The Asus I linked to would, and is essentially a higher quality version of the MSI.
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July 16, 2010 6:11:52 PM

I currently have a old gt 9800 GPU which I am planing to upgrade later. Also, how is AMD Phenom II X4 955 compred to the Athlon x3 I mentioned above? I might need to do some CAD later on for my engineering jobs.
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July 16, 2010 6:21:01 PM

The X4 955 is a lot better. It's also nearly $100 more expensive.
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July 16, 2010 6:37:23 PM

msi used to be bad but now they are catching up. Their highest end boards usually have higher quality parts than the gigabyte counterpart in the same price range. Msi's low end boards are really low end and the gigabyte/asus dominates the msi in the low budget boards
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July 16, 2010 9:20:10 PM

Any way, Thanks to MadAdmiral and batuchka's comment. I learned alot today. I would keep coming back here to learn more.
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July 17, 2010 4:48:27 AM

Hmm if no CF and not looking for OC headroom outta RAMs thats a pretty decent combo u spotted! As said : Rana 440 if no render/encode else 955BE is also good for the $$ You are welcomed
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August 4, 2010 8:19:54 PM

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