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September 15, 2010 3:20:45 PM

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i am gonna to buy a new system previously i have been using intel core2duo e8300 now i am kind of confused whether i should go with intel core!5 750 or new 6 core amd processor . there is hardly 2$ difference between !5 and x6 in their starting model . what you people suggest..

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September 15, 2010 4:23:09 PM

There is no way to say without knowing your intended uses for the system. You didn't even tell us which models of i5 and x6 you are talking about. For the sake of trying to help, so the i5 quad core at 2.66GHz and I will assume the x6 at 2.8GHz. So until you give us the information we need, here is a general guide:

The core i5:
-faster per core, even at lower clockspeeds.
-therefore better in single threaded tasks
-4 cores more than enough for game user or office user. most others do not benefit.

The phenom II x6:
-slower per core, even at higher clockspeeds.
-each core at about 3.6GHz could match the i5 at 2.6GHz in all tasks.
-6 cores bring about advantages in multi-threaded applications such as video encoding, editing, ray tracing, running multiple VMs etc.

And here is a benchmark list between the i5 750 vs the 1055t
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=147
Not the multi-threaded and single threaded benchmarks near the middle.
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September 15, 2010 7:55:35 PM

The Phenom II is a bit slower per core on average, and both CPUs overclock well. If you need six cores, the Phenom is a clear win. If you're sure you don't, the i5 is a clear win. If you're not sure, while you probably don't need six cores, neither CPU would let you down.
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September 16, 2010 4:24:56 AM

i was looking for core!5 750 intel and amd phenom !!*6 basic version . In Indian currency amd processor is 210$ (9600 rs) for 2.66ghz and for intel its 200$ (9500rs) .

Here comes my problem there is not much difference between price hardly 2$ . amd claims that their !!*6 is faster than any quad . so for gaming and rendering purpose amd 6 core will do just fine or intel would be the best choice . currently intel 6 core processor 980x is costing a bomb . of course currently intel !5 is good. but after a year it should be like hey why i didnt go for amd 6 core when there was not much difference between price of your 4 core processor and 6 core processor.
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September 16, 2010 4:36:07 AM

^I got one of the first quad cores out (Q6600) and it still isn't outdated. Its about 3 years old too.

A 6 core wont see any significant advantage in most normal things beyond a server for a while in the desktop market.

AMD will tout that their 6 cores are faster than Intels 4 and they are right in certain situations. But for normal daily users, it wont beat a Core i5 and I doubt that in 3 years a i5 will feel slow.
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September 16, 2010 10:04:25 AM

I was about to buy a i5-750 a few months ago, and then they released the AMD 6 core cpu's. So I chose a 1090T over i5-750. Both are good cpu's, but I chose to have more cores.

I do a lot of video encoding, so this was an easy choice for me.
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September 16, 2010 1:39:03 PM

With any single card configuration, both processors have more than enough power. If by rendering you mean video encoding or some other program that can use all 6 cores, the Phenom II is a bit better.
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September 17, 2010 4:52:15 PM

Is it true that amd processors produces more heat compared to intel processors.



One of my friend had given his amd phenom black edition true quadcore processor for repair he says his processor fan was making hell lot of sound . whatever it is hardly, i have heard complains from intel users. actually i have been using intel from the days of pentium 3 . amd seems to be smart choice now because i have notice amd is leading every where their gpus,their mobo , now their cpus but i am bit afraid because after purchasing amd !!*6 i know i have to manage with this for not less than 5 years.
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September 17, 2010 5:01:31 PM

gauravtushir said:
Is it true that amd processors produces more heat compared to intel processors.

Depends on the models. Heat is related to TDP.
Here's a description of TDP:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Glossary/T/Thermal_Design_Powe...(TDP).html

TDP information is easily available. Based on it, the phenom II is cooler than the i7 but the core i5 is cooler than the phenom II, except for the Phenom IIs that are 95W TDP.



Here you can check out info on both brands:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/CPU.html
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September 18, 2010 12:41:58 AM

If the system you are about to build will need to last you 5 years then I would wait a few months for the new processors to be released. Both Intel's and AMD's new chips will not work with current motherboards. Waiting would put you on a motherboard with a few years years worth of upgradablility hopefully instead of the current dead-end boards we have now. For example, should you get a 1090t now, what would you upgrade to? Nothing... unless amd comes out with a few new am3 chips down the road, and there's no reason to really, theres no upgrade for you.
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September 18, 2010 4:17:01 PM

Do i have to stick to 64-bit os while using amd !!*6 processor. Will this cpu have problem running 32-bit applications including games.

Best thing about intel processor i found is they dont heat up like amd processor , but when it comes to 6 core cpus both (intel&amd) cpus produces good amount of heat (here intel is loosing its potential) .

Waiting would be a good idea currently , i have made my mind 6 cores or nothing.
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September 18, 2010 4:32:25 PM

How many cooling fan will be needed to keep such cpus cool . i am talking about both (Amd and intel 's 6 core processors. its shouldn't be like one summer afternoon i am browsing all of a sudden !!boom both my psu and cpu are gone lol.
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September 18, 2010 4:50:50 PM

jimmysmitty said:
A 6 core wont see any significant advantage in most normal things beyond a server for a while in the desktop market.

Not exactly. If you do frequent vid edits,encoding,etc the X6 will show a difference vs a Q6600/i3/i5.

gauravtushir said:
Do i have to stick to 64-bit os while using amd !!*6 processor. Will this cpu have problem running 32-bit applications including games.

Best thing about intel processor i found is they dont heat up like amd processor , but when it comes to 6 core cpus both (intel&amd) cpus produces good amount of heat (here intel is loosing its potential) .

Waiting would be a good idea currently , i have made my mind 6 cores or nothing.

Why do you need a 6 core CPU?

As for the programs, yes it will run any 32bit programs. I recommend you grab 64bit Windows 7 Home Premium.

gauravtushir said:
How many cooling fan will be needed to keep such cpus cool . i am talking about both (Amd and intel 's 6 core processors. its shouldn't be like one summer afternoon i am browsing all of a sudden !!boom both my psu and cpu are gone lol.

A good cooler like a CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ will work.

For the top CPU cooler ranking see: http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

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September 18, 2010 4:56:48 PM

gauravtushir said:
Do i have to stick to 64-bit os while using amd !!*6 processor. Will this cpu have problem running 32-bit applications including games.

Best thing about intel processor i found is they dont heat up like amd processor , but when it comes to 6 core cpus both (intel&amd) cpus produces good amount of heat (here intel is loosing its potential) .

Waiting would be a good idea currently , i have made my mind 6 cores or nothing.


you don't have to stick with a 64bit OS but with 32bit OS you are basically limited at 4GB of system RAM. Just about every current app/SW supports Win7 64 bit

The CPU will have no issue running 32-bit applications and games

I've used various AMD processors. Athlon XP, Athlon X2, Athlon II, and Phenom II. Never had any serious heat issue with any of them, in fact the Athlon II are some the coolest running CPUs around.

that being said, why are you upgrading your CPU? the E8300 is still a viable CPU
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September 18, 2010 4:58:36 PM

gauravtushir said:
How many cooling fan will be needed to keep such cpus cool . i am talking about both (Amd and intel 's 6 core processors. its shouldn't be like one summer afternoon i am browsing all of a sudden !!boom both my psu and cpu are gone lol.


even a stock cooler would prevent that, i think you have been mislead on CPU and case cooling. shadow recommendation of the CM 212+ is an excellent choice for an aftermarket cooler.
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September 18, 2010 7:20:52 PM

Unless you're doing heavy overclocking, if you have a well-ventilated case you should be fine. Is it very hot where you live?
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September 18, 2010 10:45:36 PM

^ Since he is from India, the ambient temp can go up to 27-30C in some cases, so yeah, a good cooler, even if not OCing, will help quite a bit.
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September 19, 2010 8:10:59 AM

Temperature here will be 25c in winter and 36 degree Celsius in summer is this temp ok ? When may people suggest quad core that would be just right choice for now but going for 6 core will be a smart move.

Heat is quite a problem here!! if i would be staying in iceland i didnt even had to open this poll.lol.

Going for intel !5 for now is ok but even this thing will be old within 2 years after that everybody will be behind 6 core cpus. i am buying new system for normal use although i find my old core2duo quite satisfactory but Amd 6 core cpu price list has made me go crazy.

kindly suggest cooling solutions as for it should be for home users not workstations.



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September 19, 2010 12:39:53 PM

Really long thread for something that small...
If you not planing to over clock you can stay with the original....it is silent (we are talking about the i5 750-760).
I think it is the right choice...if you cant find good reason for the extra cores.
If you planing to overclock. you can start by reading some user reviews and experiences here: http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategor...
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September 19, 2010 4:51:15 PM

I would wait for some months before buying a new system As for now i think my core2duo and xp pro is a great combination . Currently i am using my machine for programming and little bit of gaming but i wanna learn animation too, so i was behind 6 core cpu .

I thank everyone who posted their comments here . This poll is closed for now.
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September 19, 2010 7:48:54 PM

This is where you want to be to learn about cooling.

And about the Iceland comment: Northern Canada FTW!
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September 26, 2010 9:40:28 AM

Best answer selected by gauravtushir.
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