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July 17, 2010 6:07:39 AM

Yep, it's my first build. I am pretty nervous about it, but I think I'll pull through. I'd appreciate any feedback/changes you guys would make here. Please as this is my first build...explain WHY you would change something if you do, so I can start to learn this stuff. Somethings that really confuse me, are alot of the compatibility stuff, how am I supposed to sort through all this crazyness, and find things that match the best? ><

BUDGET: 1400$ Including monitor.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This weekend I'd like to order all the parts.

SYSTEM USAGE: (Mostly Gaming: Aion, FFXIV(When released), and a few RTS style games eg HoN/DOTA.)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (mouse)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: (newegg.com, pretty much the only place I know.) COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: (United States....Arizona to be exact.

PARTS PREFERENCES: (I prefer a full size tower, and an Nvidia/Intel combo.)

OVERCLOCKING: No / Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No, Can't really afford it.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Not really sure to be honest, Looking in the range of a 22-24" Monitor

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: (Prefer something that can be as future proof as possible for MMO's, with the tight budget.)






What I have so far:


Motherboard(onboard sound): GIGABYTE GA-H55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (124.99$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Intel i5 750 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (194.99)

Graphics Card GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (234.99$)

Wireless Card : Linksys WMP300N IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, Draft IEEE 802.11n 32-bit PCI Interface High-speed Wireless-N Wireless Adapter Up to 256-bit wireless encryption (59.99$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case XCLIO Windtunnel : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (89.99$)

Psupply CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (79.99$)

Ram CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (99.99$)

Harddrive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB (54.99$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R (29.99$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor LG W2353VP-PF Glossy Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (199.99$)

Keyboard


Total costs to date: 1169.91$

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a b B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 6:44:09 AM

Well your processor is an 1156 (this refers to the socket type). so MAKE SURE you get a motherboard for an 1156 processor (not a 1366, which is an i7)

The onboard sound on basically every motherboard is sufficient for anyone but the most hardcore audio guy... so I'm not sure if you were asking about that, but you'll be fine.

Here's a good harddrive at a great price. I'm the same way, 500gb is more than enough for me and my games.. plus some songs and a few movies.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heres a solid motherboard. You don't need a top notch motherboard if you're not overclocking or running SLI - Gigabyte is just my persoanl reccommendation since I've had great success with their quality in the past

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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a b B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 6:48:29 AM

Also, those are good choices on video card and RAM... both really great components.

Keyboard, I'd go with a logitech Gseries gaming keyboard with macro buttons on the left side, will be great for your MMos

Heres a great wireless card - Sure its 60dollars and you could get a cheapo for $20 on ebay, but these things are really worth it. You'll have full bars within a football field of your router.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 90 B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 7:06:43 AM

Nice find on the LG monitor deal.
You can always 'hitch a ride' on what other's are recommending - or find a past forum topic to see what others have put together.

The THG forum guys keep a list of Recommended Builds by Usage that is a good starting out point. Some other useful links as well.
Gamer: $1,123.89
* CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
* MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
* RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
* HSF: COOLER MASTER Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact"
* HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
* PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W 80 PLUS Power Supply
* GPU: XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB
* DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail
* Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
* Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

From there you can tweak the options a bit. Not overclocking? HSF and Thermal compound not required. Maybe? Leave them in the build.
Maybe save $90 or so going with a GTX 460 instead of the HD 5850.
Just 1 video card? Change out the Corsair 750TX to a Corsair 550VX.
Case preference: Often a personal preference. That XCLIO Windtunnel is a larger full tower case.
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July 17, 2010 7:30:42 AM

I really appreciate all the help so far, I've looked and added some things. I still have a day or so until I start ordering, so please if anyone could like to comment/critique the build I'd love it. One thing I forgot (Thank you WR2 is a DVD drive) any personal preferences on this? I don't need anything crazy like blue ray etc, just something that does a decent job of reading DVD's. Not sure why WR2 but the case I chose really stuck out to me, I've fallen in love haha. Unless there are any huge performance/quality/build disputes i'd love to stick to that one. Is the 5850 going to net me a ton more performance on MMO's with the resolution I have currently? I also hear the 460 runs significantly cooler than the 5850...comments, remarks?
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 7:32:15 AM

Looks like your coming in under budget... if you want to spend $1400... Two GTX460's in SLI smoke a GTX 480 for less money (and also combined use less power and make less heat)

If you added another $230 card you'd be at the top-tier of gaming performance to maximize that nice new monitor :) 
(you would have to spend another 30-40dollars to get a motherboard built for SLI..so it would essentially put you right at 1400)
http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/reviews/reviews/evga-gt...
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July 17, 2010 7:37:39 AM

Yeah, I'd love to run an SLI, but seeing as I'm not playing anything too crazy on super huge resolutions, and it being my first build(SLI/Xfire seems like it would confuse my build lol), I may wanna pass. SLI is going to also increase power/heat etc right? So I have to adjust cooling to aftermarket, and get a bigger PSU?
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a c 90 B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 7:46:45 AM

SLI will take more power (2 video cards to power) and you'll need a decent case to get the warm air out of the case - usually not a problem for a 'gaming' rated case. The video card cooler on the GTX 460 exhausts a lot of excess heat out the back of the case.
Your 750W PSU has enough extra power already to add a 2nd GXT 460 so you're good there - if you ever want to try it in the future. It's the type of thing you can always 'do later'.

edit; just noticed the there is only 1x PCI-e x16 video card slot. No Crossfire/SLI option for that board.
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 $140 has a 2nd PCI-e x16 slot (running @ x4) but will let you try CF/SLI in the future.

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July 17, 2010 8:17:20 AM

Any suggestions about a PSU change, to meet the case standards. I may just upgrade to a Mobo with the second slot, and that gives me the option for SLI later.
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a c 90 B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 12:41:45 PM

A few benchmark results on GTX 460 SLI performance. A few RPGs like BattleForge/CoH/DoW2. And a couple Sim type games are somewhat similar to MMOs: Dirt2/Hawx
You can also look at the GTX 460/HD 5850 single card comparison. The difference is a bit less than what you'd expect from a $200 vs $290 card.

PSU:
For a single GTX 460 / HD 5850: 500-550W PSU Corsair 550VX ATX & EPS cable 24"
For 2x GTX 460 SLI / HD 5850 CF: 650W-750W PSU Corsair 750TX / Antec Truepower New 750W
CM GX 750 W 19" ATX cable - Corsair 750TX 24" ATX cable - Antec TruePower New 21" ATX cable
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July 17, 2010 3:38:12 PM

Yeah, I think I am going to stick with the single, GTX 460. And for sure switch over that PSU. I really appreciate the help gentlemen. Build is looking pretty solid?
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a c 90 B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 5:30:31 PM

Combo deal on your monitor LG W2353VP-PF 23" LCD and Logitech Wireless Desktop MK300 Keyboard & Mouse $201. You get the mouse and keyboard for $1 after discount.

Combo deal on your video card and Win7 64bit OEM $325 a $10 discount.

Wireless adapter: The customer ratings for that Linksys WMP300N concerns me a bit. 4&5 'Egg' rating of 59%.
Compare that to EDIMAX EW-7728In $35. 4&5 'Egg' rating of 76%.
I don't know enough about the nuances to comment on anything but the difference in customer ratings - not always the best indication of quality ('I couldn't get it to work'). Still when you don't have anything else its worth a look.
It might also be worth a post in the Wireless Networking forum and see if you can't clear that up or get other recommendations. You can always hold off a bit on ordering this till you know which way you want to go.

Corsair VX550W Power Supply Review @ JonnyGuru 9.5 rating Also confirms 24" ATX power cable and 24" EPS Aux CPU power cable.
GA-H55-USB3 motherboard home page. You can look over the feature list and even download the manual to get a head start.
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a c 90 B Homebuilt system
July 17, 2010 5:51:45 PM

Lets re-visit the question of a CPU cooler. Here is a mid-level CPU cooler: CM Hyper TX3 92mm CPU Cooler $30
CM Hyper TX3 review A cooler CPU and a future option for a bit of overclocking. Something around 3.4Ghz-3.6Ghz should be possible if you decided try it out in the future.

Looking solid enough to break out the credit card this weekend I think.

While you're waiting for delivery - some 'light reading'
"System won't boot" and "no video output" checklist Read about some common problems - BEFORE they happen to you - not after.
Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC

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July 17, 2010 11:52:24 PM

Alrighty then, all done, and I shipped everything. I skipped out on the CPU cooler, no overclocking for me just yet, if the time comes I'll order one. Here's what I got.

Qty Product Description Price
Order #: 54187477
1

XCLIO Windtunnel Fully Black Finish 1.0 mm SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811103011

Standard Return Policy



$129.99
$89.99

1

* GIGABYTE GA-H55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128437

Standard Return Policy



$124.99

1

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814125333

VGA Standard Return Policy



$234.99

1

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
Item #: N82E16817139004

Standard Return Policy



$104.99
$79.99

1

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
Item #: N82E16819115215

CPU Replacement Only Return Policy



$199.99
$194.99

1

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181

Standard Return Policy



$54.99

1

Logitech Black USB Wireless Desktop MK300 Keyboard and Mouse
Item #: N82E16823126069

Standard Return Policy



$39.99

1

LG W2353VP-PF Glossy Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824005153

Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy



$219.99
$199.99

1

steelseries 51005SS 3.5mm/ USB Circumaural Siberia Full-Size headset USB (black)
Item #: N82E16826249010

Standard Return Policy



$99.99
$79.99

1

LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98
Item #: N82E16827106334

Standard Return Policy



$29.99

1

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754

Software Standard Return Policy



$99.99

1

Linksys WMP300N 32-bit PCI Interface High-speed Wireless-N Wireless Adapter
Item #: N82E16833124069

Standard Return Policy



$69.99
$59.99

1

1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan For Item# N82E16813128437



$0.00
$16.99

1
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #436160


-$38.00

1
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #437534


-$10.00

1
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #440420


-$45.00

Extended Warranty Fee $16.99
Subtotal $1,213.87
Tax $0.00
UPS 3 Days $29.66
Order Total $1,243.53

150$ under budget! Thanks a ton guys I appreciate it.
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July 17, 2010 11:55:15 PM

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