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April 25, 2011 6:24:03 PM

I want to have two GPU's in SLI eventually. 6850's (Do they have to be from the same manufacturer? I.E. both from powercolor or one from Sapphire and one from Powercolor?)

My current MB can sli two gpu's but not w/o bottlenecking the other. [GA-870A-UD3 From Gigabyte] one slot is at x16 and the other at x4.

So i'm wondering which MB I should upgrade to?
1. Asus crosshair IV extreme
2. MSI 890fxa-gd70
3. Gigabyte GA-890fxa-ud5/ud7

Now i'm not going to ever have 3 gpu's.. I think that would just be too extreme. Specifically since my main goal is simple stuff and gaming... But I <3 building pc's (though i know little about this i'm learning) it's fun and a great learning experience. But that is kind of my goal is to SLI 2 gpu's. And a decent sound card eventually.

Long story short: Which MB? Do you recommend a MB for cheaper that will just as well accomplish my needs? The asus is pricey. Please w/ your answers explain lingo and pretend i'm a PC building virgin because I am and i want to understand what you guys are saying lol. Thanks in advance.

Sys Specs:
CPU:AMD 1090T BE
GPU:Radeon 6850 (Power color PCS)
CPUFan: Corsair H50 in push pull
RAM: 8GB 2Gb sticks x 4
PSU: 700W
HDD: WD 7,200RPM 1TB
CD/DVD Combo
NZXT Fan Controller
4 case fans 120MM
Case: HaF 912 Mid

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a c 1038 V Motherboard
April 25, 2011 7:12:15 PM

No they do not have to be from the same manufacturer and it is Crossfire for AMD (ATI) cards. Selecting a board out of your options is difficult I personally would buy the cheapest.
a c 107 V Motherboard
April 25, 2011 7:29:24 PM

I'd go with a Gigabyte mainboard myself.

And no, you don't need to use the same manufacturers for CrossFire or SLI, but that does make for the best compatibility.
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a c 715 V Motherboard
April 25, 2011 8:19:41 PM
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Mixing brands of GPUs CF/SLI can work, I never do it. In the side-by-side you have different core & memory clocks, different PCIe standards 2.0 and 2.1, and lastly 'looks.'

Therefore, I would want both GPUs to be running identically before putting them in Crossfire. I know on paper it's doable.

GPU Side-by-Side http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-131-374^14-131-374-TS%2C14-131-376^14-131-376-TS%2C14-102-908^14-102-908-TS%2C14-102-912^14-102-912-TS

Advice get duplicate -> "GPU:Radeon 6850 (Power color PCS)"

Next, you mention both CF & SLI, no 890FX MOBO supports SLI and CF; it's a CF CrossFireX only chipset. Currently,only Intel supports BOTH CF/SLI; example P67 {LGA 1155} Sandy Bridge.

MOBO Choices:

1. Asus Crosshair IV Extreme
2. MSI 890FXA-GD70
3. Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 or GA-890FXA-UD7

AM3+ = ASRock 890FX DELUXE5 AM3+ AMD 890FX

AM3 = MSI 890FXA-GD70

might consider -> ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3

The AM3+ MOBOs are right around the corner so you might want to wait. IMO - In gaming the Intel is the better choice 'today' -- yeah the benchmarks seem to conclude the same...

Side-by-Side http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|13-131-667^13-131-667-TS%2C13-130-274^13-130-274-TS%2C13-128-441^13-128-441-TS%2C13-131-655^13-131-655-TS
April 26, 2011 1:50:36 AM

Okay so what is so special about the AM3+ Mobo's, and how long until they come out? You suggested this "ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3", others on a dif site also suggested the same. And i'm not too much an Intel guy, they're over priced for the same perf. as AMD (IMO, and if you OC an AMD Chip right).
April 26, 2011 1:52:13 AM

Best answer selected by LCBChef18.
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 2:12:19 AM

AM3+ is for the new Bulldozer and will keep compatibility with the current AM3 processors.

M4A89TD PRO/USB3 - it's the least expensive ASUS with AMD 890FX, and another consideration is the ASRock 890FX Deluxe4. {ASUS owns ASRock}.

edit: you did say 2-WAY.
April 26, 2011 2:21:40 AM

Oh thanks for your help/patience. 1 more question, Will my PSU suffice? Or will that need an upgrade as well? (Please say no, the damned things are expensive lol.)
a c 107 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 3:55:01 AM

That all depends. You mention the wattage, but not the brand.
April 26, 2011 4:52:43 AM

Leaps-from-Shadows said:
That all depends. You mention the wattage, but not the brand.


I didn't figure the brand was relevant. The fan on the back is a thermaltake fan. But I bought the pc prebuilt by a company by the name of "cyberpower" and their line of prodocts are called "Extremegear" Now there is a sticker right on the side of the psu advertising XG but i'm not sure if that means the PSU. In which case i've heard XG psu's are junk.

Edit: i just checked it's an xtremegear psu. Can take a pick of the specs if required.
a c 107 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 6:33:17 AM

Based on the things I was able to search out in a few minutes of Googling, I wouldn't keep that power supply.
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 2:14:00 PM

CyberPower PC is a good company, and I'm certain that the PSU is adequate. Yes the company owns XtremeGear. The HSF e.g. Asetek and RAM are 'bulk' items that are OEM only, but are fine.

Having the choice with poor quality Dell, HP, Gateway, etc VERSUS CyberPower PC -- CyberPower PC is a very good option for a custom/prebuilt & 3-year warranty PC.

Keep in mind the PSU is sized for the current components. Sure PSU's like Corsair are better -- simply choose components your want for your PC.
April 26, 2011 6:13:29 PM

jaquith said:
CyberPower PC is a good company, and I'm certain that the PSU is adequate. Yes the company owns XtremeGear. The HSF e.g. Asetek and RAM are 'bulk' items that are OEM only, but are fine.

Having the choice with poor quality Dell, HP, Gateway, etc VERSUS CyberPower PC -- CyberPower PC is a very good option for a custom/prebuilt & 3-year warranty PC.

Keep in mind the PSU is sized for the current components. Sure PSU's like Corsair are better -- simply choose components your want for your PC.


I went to new egg and used their psu calculator. Said it would be 651W+ and that is not enough head room on my 700W. So i was thinking 850W? With the 80 Plus stamp? Some guy told me to look for psu's with the 80Plus stamp. Anyways maybe corsair? I'm not sure.

What should I look for when buying a psu? 12v Rails?
a c 1038 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 6:16:54 PM

LCBChef18 said:
I went to new egg and used their psu calculator. Said it would be 651W+ and that is not enough head room on my 700W. So i was thinking 850W? With the 80 Plus stamp? Some guy told me to look for psu's with the 80Plus stamp. Anyways maybe corsair? I'm not sure.

What should I look for when buying a psu? 12v Rails?

Newegg's PSU calculator is not good use this one instead http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 26, 2011 9:07:23 PM

IF you extremely OC your 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the HD 6850 then 650W~750W. If you Crossfire 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the 2 X HD 6850 then 950W~1000W PSU.

I prefer the Corsair PSUs: Japanese capacitors, Single Rail, and Voltage Protection. There are several lines and efficiency standards:

750W 80+ $95 to 80+ Gold $149 ; it will take years to recoup $54...
April 27, 2011 3:23:33 AM

jaquith said:
IF you extremely OC your 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the HD 6850 then 650W~750W. If you Crossfire 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the 2 X HD 6850 then 950W~1000W PSU.

I prefer the Corsair PSUs: Japanese capacitors, Single Rail, and Voltage Protection. There are several lines and efficiency standards:

750W 80+ $95 to 80+ Gold $149 ; it will take years to recoup $54...


Lol i love the sarcasm. Idk why i thought they were so much $$$ i saw a 1200 W at Fry's for like $300. But I don't plan on Oc'ing my Gpu's. Maybe my cpu but right now i have no need.
a c 107 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 4:35:20 AM

Hardware setup:
Various CPUs and mainboards
GTX 580 graphics card
OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB

Graph of power consumption during a full run of PCMark Vantage:


Conclusion: Our systems don't consume as much power as you'd think. Of course, overclocking will increase that a bit, but not to 600W.

Source

My system for reference:
2500K 4.8GHz 1.504v
ASRock P67 Pro3
12GB 1600 CL9 G.Skill Ripjaws X
Palit 570 Sonic (910/1820/2175) 1.075v
Samsung 1TB SATA2
Samsung SH-223C SATA DVD burner
EK-KIT H3O Supreme HF 360 CPU loop
HAF 912 w/ six Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F fans
SeaSonic SS-560KM 560W (yes, a 560W power supply for a fully overclocked and over-volted system)
April 27, 2011 1:33:26 PM

Leaps-from-Shadows said:
Hardware setup:
Various CPUs and mainboards
GTX 580 graphics card
OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB

Graph of power consumption during a full run of PCMark Vantage:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/6/B/274979/original/Power%20Consumption.png

Conclusion: Our systems don't consume as much power as you'd think. Of course, overclocking will increase that a bit, but not to 600W.

Source

My system for reference:
2500K 4.8GHz 1.504v
ASRock P67 Pro3
12GB 1600 CL9 G.Skill Ripjaws X
Palit 570 Sonic (910/1820/2175) 1.075v
Samsung 1TB SATA2
Samsung SH-223C SATA DVD burner
EK-KIT H3O Supreme HF 360 CPU loop
HAF 912 w/ six Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F fans
SeaSonic SS-560KM 560W (yes, a 560W power supply for a fully overclocked and over-volted system)


"Palit 570 Sonic (910/1820/2175) 1.075v" i'm guessing this is your GPU?
So you're saying even if I oc'd 2 gpus, my cpu, and for the hell of it my RAM (You can oc ram right? lol) 7ooW would still be enough?
Very nice on the G.Skill Ripjaws btw lol *drool*.
a c 107 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 3:33:32 PM

Yes, that's an overclocked and over-volted GTX 570.

A good 700W power supply would be enough. Those power supply calculators calculate peak consumption -- normal web surfing and everyday tasks would consume maybe 200W with CrossFired 6850s.
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 5:26:36 PM

I HATE PSU arguments!!!

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp is a rip-off of the real Thermaltake's -> http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

UNLESS you really know what you're doing, most don't, you're going to be looking at a limited view of the real use by poor use of those calculators and failing to take into account:
1. Peak CPU Utilization
2. Capacitor Aging
3. System Load

Example if the calculator comes out to 493W {100% TDP & Load, 1090T, DVD, HDD, SSD, 6 Fans, 3 USB, HD 6950, 2 DDR3, 5W pump}. Then you'd be dumb to get a 500W PSU.

493W X 1.30 = 641W {650W} IF you want your PSU to last for more than a year. Next if you OC the CPU and GPU then figure an extra 100W+. 650w is fine IF you'll NEVER OC. So it's your rig, screw it up as you see fit or listen to a builder.

SIMPLIFIED PSU Calculators like Corsair's -> http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/ {Power Supply Finder} are best because it takes into account the above issues that otherwise screw-up proper sizing. I prefer NOT to have my PSU create a bottleneck or strain my PSU and prematurity render it useless.

Further, I plan ahead. If the person I'm building for is likely to add a second, third, etc GPU(s) then the PSU purchased will accommodate the additional overhead. In addition, at some point 'most' enthusiast will OC either the CPU and/or GPU; it's easy and obtaining 5~10+ FPS for free is a no brainier. Apps like MSI Afterburner make GPU OC easy -> http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

IF your 'peak' is greater than capacity your system will work; problems: 1. Loss in performance, 2. Premature aging of the PSU. I remember to this day someone who maxed-out their PSU, using one of those manual calculators, and their PSU was running hot and the Frame Loss was ~30 FPS -- the GPU was starved; the OP listened to my advice and the PSU 'magically' increased the performance.
a c 1038 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 6:22:54 PM

jaquith said:
I HATE PSU arguments!!!

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp is a rip-off of the real Thermaltake's -> http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

UNLESS you really know what you're doing, most don't, you're going to be looking at a limited view of the real use by poor use of those calculators and failing to take into account:
1. Peak CPU Utilization
2. Capacitor Aging
3. System Load

Example if the calculator comes out to 493W {100% TDP & Load, 1090T, DVD, HDD, SSD, 6 Fans, 3 USB, HD 6950, 2 DDR3, 5W pump}. Then you'd be dumb to get a 500W PSU.

493W X 1.30 = 641W {650W} IF you want your PSU to last for more than a year. Next if you OC the CPU and GPU then figure an extra 100W+. 650w is fine IF you'll NEVER OC. So it's your rig, screw it up as you see fit or listen to a builder.

SIMPLIFIED PSU Calculators like Corsair's -> http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/ {Power Supply Finder} are best because it takes into account the above issues that otherwise screw-up proper sizing. I prefer NOT to have my PSU create a bottleneck or strain my PSU and prematurity render it useless.

Further, I plan ahead. If the person I'm building for is likely to add a second, third, etc GPU(s) then the PSU purchased will accommodate the additional overhead. In addition, at some point 'most' enthusiast will OC either the CPU and/or GPU; it's easy and obtaining 5~10+ FPS for free is a no brainier. Apps like MSI Afterburner make GPU OC easy -> http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

IF your 'peak' is greater than capacity your system will work; problems: 1. Loss in performance, 2. Premature aging of the PSU. I remember to this day someone who maxed-out their PSU, using one of those manual calculators, and their PSU was running hot and the Frame Loss was ~30 FPS -- the GPU was starved; the OP listened to my advice and the PSU 'magically' increased the performance.

How do you explain these numbers then they are full system load running Furmark amongst other things! http://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 7:16:05 PM

Huh?! 493W {100% TDP & Load, 1090T, DVD, HDD, SSD, 6 Fans, 3 USB, HD 6950, 2 DDR3, 5W pump} An HD 6950 is ~160W+ TDP vanilla benching. Try running FutureMark and watch those Watts go up another 30~50%.

I don't enjoy having my rigs go poof...after some gaming.

I was ignoring your stuff, frankly I only glanced at it; do you see me listing a GTX 590??!! Glancing at the link, it seems to be a TDP comparison with a poor testing scheme. Look what's listed above and come again... :) 

Otherwise, if you think you can 'run' a GTX 590 OC with 600W+ PSU then you're crazy.
April 27, 2011 9:00:45 PM

Now now you two... Try to remember you guys are helping me not arguing w/ each other. That does nobody any good lol. Okay, Jacquith. 850W-1000W you're suggesting?
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 9:10:36 PM

Choices as above:

OC Both CPU and GPU:

1. IF you extremely OC your 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the HD 6850 then 650W~750W.

2. If you Crossfire 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the 2 X HD 6850 then 950W~1000W PSU.

The second option is if you Crossfire, 2 GPUS, the HD 6850.

NO OC:

3. 1090T + (1) HD 6850 450W~550W

4. 1090T + Crossfire (2) HD 6850 850W
April 27, 2011 9:14:06 PM

jaquith said:
Choices as above:

OC Both CPU and GPU:

1. IF you extremely OC your 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the HD 6850 then 650W~750W.

2. If you Crossfire 1090T 6-core CPU and OC the 2 X HD 6850 then 950W~1000W PSU.

The second option is if you Crossfire, 2 GPUS, the HD 6850.

NO OC:

3. 1090T + (1) HD 6850 450W~550W

4. 1090T + Crossfire (2) HD 6850 850W



Thanks. That's what I needed. I'll get my MOBO next week, and the next card in maybe a month or so.
1. You care to teach me the BIOS method of OC'ing?
2. Anyway we can keep in touch case I have other questions?
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 9:22:30 PM

ANS:
1. It's easy the unlocked CPU's are as simple as increasing CPU Multiplier and CPU Voltage. OC the GPU is simple with the MSI Afterburner App.
2. Sure, simply PM {Private message}; click on the green envelope next to my avatar.

Good Luck! :) 

April 27, 2011 9:33:35 PM

jaquith said:
ANS:
1. It's easy the unlocked CPU's are as simple as increasing CPU Multiplier and CPU Voltage. OC the GPU is simple with the MSI Afterburner App.
2. Sure, simply PM {Private message}; click on the green envelope next to my avatar.

Good Luck! :) 



Increase them in what increments? I know 1.5V (i think) would put the 1090t at 4.0GHz... and i've never seen a mult. option in the BIOS settings. Maybe i didn't look very well.

Edit: I was using zpuz and noticed that my ghz was already going up to 3.6Ghz So an oc below that would be pointless. And i'm reading a lot that ppl are getting to 4.0+ But that's w/ changing dram and all this other stuff. I think?
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 27, 2011 11:52:30 PM

When you get your setup let me know.

Here's an example of 4.4GHz and 4.5GHz; on each notice the 'Core Voltage' and 'Multipliers' - http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=259&th...

Yet another to blur the senses {see Phenom II Thuban Overclocking Section} -> http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596...

I thought this is an interesting post, each CPU + MOBO 'is' it's own world, so what works on one can fail miserably on another.

Your need Prime95 and some Temp App like CoreTemp and expect post failures. The trick is to find the lowest stable voltage follows by Prime95 testing and once you're satisfied then Prime95 overnight; yes at least overnight.
a c 1038 V Motherboard
April 28, 2011 7:44:29 AM

jaquith said:
Huh?! 493W {100% TDP & Load, 1090T, DVD, HDD, SSD, 6 Fans, 3 USB, HD 6950, 2 DDR3, 5W pump} An HD 6950 is ~160W+ TDP vanilla benching. Try running FutureMark and watch those Watts go up another 30~50%.

I don't enjoy having my rigs go poof...after some gaming.

I was ignoring your stuff, frankly I only glanced at it; do you see me listing a GTX 590??!! Glancing at the link, it seems to be a TDP comparison with a poor testing scheme. Look what's listed above and come again... :) 

Otherwise, if you think you can 'run' a GTX 590 OC with 600W+ PSU then you're crazy.

I guess that guru3D is as wrong as Anandtech http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-radeon-6850-cyclone-p...
It says something when PSU manufacturers like Antec use the same calculator and you can even adjust for overclock and Vcore http://www.antec.outervision.com/ (it would be in their interest to sell everybody a bigger PSU (like Newegg) financially)
Borrowed from XFX for their HD6850 system req. based on generic PSU's:
"500 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for AMD CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)"
http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/products/graphiccards/HD%2060...
a c 715 V Motherboard
April 28, 2011 2:00:48 PM

Huh X2!? looking at the chart I said HD 6950. The OP's HD 6850 or HD 6800 series was used in the PSU calculations. If you noticed my suggestions:

OC Both CPU and GPU:
1. OC 1090T + OC (1) HD 6850 then 650W~750W.
2. OC 1090T + OC (2) HD 6850 CF then 950W~1000W PSU.

NO OC:
3. 1090T + (1) HD 6850 450W~550W
4. 1090T + (2) HD 6850 CF 850W

Let's say I suggested a 450W to the OP -- What happens if the OP OC's? ANS: He's SOL - when stressed: 1. the PSU will be running close to 100%, 2. the PSU will have a very shortened lifespan, 3. after a year the performance will decrease and the PSU will no longer have the capacity to handle the peak demand, 4. the PSU will likely fail in a premature timespan and in the process risks damaging the components from accelerated capacitor aging, 5. the PSU will have poor efficiency. THEREFORE, I would have been doing a terrible disservice to the OP.

Electrolytic capacitor aging simply means, for example, you begin with a e.g. 650W after a year expect to lose 50W+ and more the higher the load; unfortunately this is a progressive problem facing ALL current PSUs. See for starters -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor#Capacitance_inst...

Ideally, you want under 'typical' load to be running at 50% load capacity -- the end result is a PSU that will last for many years delivering 'Clean(er) Power' and improved efficiency.

Testing, Reviews, & Agenda - yeah I too read a lot of crapola out there and I find about 1/3 ~ 1/4 so called legitimate 'Reviewers' to either have an agenda {paid sponsorship, bias - malformed point to prove, etc} or use poor testing criteria. A few examples P67 vs X58 and using low resolution and/or 0xAA or 4xAA, SSD testing failing to list the use of a $500 LSI Controller to 'demonstrate' SSD + MOBO, etc. So you need to have either the firsthand knowledge to see through this and/or be smart enough to seek overlapping reviews.

Building - ALL of my rigs built for others and myself are 100% fully 48 hours Prime95, Memtest, FutureMark, etc tested. Most are extreme high-end and uncompromisable. How 'others' build is their business. In this forum I find it very difficult to help OP's builds because I know often too many compromises are needed and the quality of components is at risk.

Efficiency & Noise - example:

May 2, 2011 2:15:06 AM

Okay I decided on the Crosshair IV Extreme after some research.

1. Will my RAM work w/ it? SpecTek (pt256m 6408v69ad2j) I'll eventually upgrade my RAM to Corsair Dominator 16GB. (Model# CMP16gx3m4a1333c9 in newegg.com)
2. Will my H50 fit on the Mobo? I swear i've searched all over the damn net and haven't found out.

I've looked at the QVL and I think it's BS the only decent RAM it's compatible w/ is G.Skill And I can't afford that lmao.

CPUZ---http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1797955
a c 715 V Motherboard
May 2, 2011 3:40:10 PM

1. Don't know because I couldn't find any RAM SpecTek (pt256m 6408v69ad2j)?? But if that's your CPU-Z info then Yes.
2. Yes, the H50 will work with Crosshair IV Extreme ; specs AMD AM2, AMD AM3, Intel LGA 1155, Intel LGA 1156, Intel LGA 1366, Intel LGA 775

The QVL isn't the only RAM that will work.
Corsair any Phenom II RAM will work - http://www.corsair.com/memory/amd-memory-solutions/phen...
Crosshair IV 'Formula' {890FX Chipset} Tested - http://www2.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.as...

The 6-Core can support up to 2000 MHz RAM with OC.
May 2, 2011 7:02:13 PM

OKay you've genuinely confused me. The 16Gb Kit from new egg runs at 1333Mhz which is well under 2000. Yet the page you link me to lists RAM that runs up to 2600Mhz for AMD based systems. So you're saying having a nice cpu means you have slow RAM?

1. I found this http://www.corsair.com/memory/amd-memory-solutions/phen... ------------Same as what I want from Newegg.com
2. http://www.corsair.com/memory/amd-memory-solutions/phen... ------According to what you posted this memory will be incompatible right?

And i know the Socket is the same i meant overall size of the cooler, (may have had you confused) i'm not sure if the size of the cooler itself will get in the way of the northbridge cooling.
a c 715 V Motherboard
May 2, 2011 8:24:13 PM

ASUS Crosshair IV Extreme - http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/Crosshair_IV_E...
DDR3 Specs:
4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

The link http://www.corsair.com/memory/amd-memory-solutions/phen... is a 'Selectable' configuration see "Narrow your Results" in the left column; Size, Memory Type, Speed Rating, etc...

Therefore IF you input 16GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz you'll see the RAM the Corsair offers compatible with Phenom II. In this case the 16GB Kit is CMP16GX3M4A1600C9 http://www.corsair.com/memory/amd-memory-solutions/phen...

Regarding the H50...1000 Words:
May 3, 2011 2:13:21 AM

Oh, okay. My ignorance towards computers probably frustrates you but I appreciate your help nonetheless.

Now when you speak about the RAM you use the word IF. Do you suggest maybe 8GB of ram that is <2000/>1333? Or is 16GB of RAM really the "best choice" in this situation? My logic as far as this goes is that if i'm going to upgrade my RAM i'm going to upgrade significantly. (In size/speed.)
a c 715 V Motherboard
May 3, 2011 3:50:36 PM

Unless you are Rendering or Compiling {Graphics, Video, SQL databases, etc} 8GB {2X4GB} is the Gaming sweet-spot and for the 6-core 1600 MHz is the 'easiest' to configure and unless your plans include OC'ing the CPU I don't recommend 2000 MHz RAM. 2000 MHz is better suited of FSB increases as well and CPU Ratio OC.
May 3, 2011 6:13:50 PM

Oh okay. 8GB it is then. With that I could theoretically manage G.Skill. Or is Corsair best?
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