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July 18, 2010 2:34:22 AM

Well, i couldn't do my build this month.... *sigh* stupid economy :)  and these are my parts for my build, ill build as soon as money allows? no I am not lowering my budget, no I am not going with Intel no I am not going with NVIDIA, just to make that clear.



Not my first PC build

Here are my parts, newegg.com, 2000-2200 dollar budget and stuff don't need keyboard, mouse, monitor, running at 1900x1080, 5970 is overkill yeah yeah yeah well I want it to be overkill :) 

PARTS SO FAR:
Antec 1200
Asus Crosshair
Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ten ninety tee!
I love you G.Skill :) 
5970, or as i like to call it, the bitch
OVERKILL PSU, ill crossfi, I mean quad-fire* in the future though :) 
Caviar black, but its silver :D 
CPU cooLAR
Is that it.. oh yeah and windows 7... and 3 red antec fans to replace the front blue ones, and 2 antec-no-led fans for the back two... and ill turn off the top fan's LEDs ( i don't want a ton of LEDs, ill put a few meteor lights in it though :D . Gonna mod the side window and put some acrylic in there all that stuff.. cut some cable holes.. all that. Wanted to go with the XFX 5970 but newegg doesn't have it ATM -_- ill get it if its in stock though SUGGESTIONS?????? (caviar black, 2 of them in raid)
lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala.... -_- D:< BUMP!!!!!!!


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July 18, 2010 3:28:02 AM

Have an optical drive to go with that?
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July 18, 2010 3:41:09 AM

WR2 said:
Have an optical drive to go with that?

Oh yeah, asus optical drive, cheap, dont really care about it :) 
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July 18, 2010 3:43:23 AM

Looks good then. You have everything covered. Want to think about a SSD for the OS drive?
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July 18, 2010 3:49:36 AM

I second getting a SSD for this build.
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July 18, 2010 3:22:08 PM

I don't know that the 1090T is appropriate for a gaming build. Not because I think 6 cores is overkill, but because it's beaten in gaming benchmarks by the Phenom II x4, the intel core i5. I understand that you don't like intel or NVIDIA for whatever reason, and that's perfectly fine. But I just want you to be aware that your build will be outperformed in games by one that could cost considerably less.

Check out Tom's review of the 1090T:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-10...

"Lo and behold, even with the fastest single-GPU card you can buy, the Phenom II X6 doesn’t spring to life. Meanwhile, the overclocked Core i7 leaps forward by quite a bit. This is eerily reminiscent of a gaming piece I wrote back in 2008 comparing high-end AMD and Intel gaming rigs. All else equal, the Phenom X4 I was testing at the time was simply creamed by Core i7 in Crysis."
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July 18, 2010 3:38:27 PM

+1
X6 1055T or X4 965 and SSD
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July 18, 2010 3:51:20 PM

Also, the Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB and 1 TB drives are faster and cheaper than the Western Digital Caviar Blacks even though the WD's have a SATA 6 interface. No mechanical hard drive is even saturating SATA 3 Gb/s bandwidth, so it's not a big factor.

Here is a $2000 build that gets you better gaming performance, an SSD, faster mechanical drive, more RAM.

CASE: Cooler Master HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$90

Saves you $50 from previous case and is, by my own experience and by professional reviews, a very very good case. Plenty of room, excellent cooling. It's great.

MOBO: ASUS P6X58D-E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$240

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$75

Is faster than the Western Digital because it uses 500 GB platters instead of 333.

CPU: Intel Core i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's going to perform better than any AMD CPU with a single 5970 and with dual 5970s.

Also, since you're considering quad-fire, you of all people need to be looking at an X58 platform as it's capable of delivering x16 bandwidth for two GPUs at the same time. And the i7 930 is more able to deal with the Crossfire processing overhead than the processor you have spec'd which can't even deal with one 5970.

GPU: Sapphire HD 5970
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$700

PSU: Corsair 950TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$140 (-$20 rebate)

RAM: G.Skill Pi Series 6 GB, CL7, 1600 MHz DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$160

SSD: Intel X25-M 80 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$220

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$100



TOTAL: $2,014 before rebates and shipping.
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July 18, 2010 4:39:49 PM

mortonww said:
Also, the Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB and 1 TB drives are faster and cheaper than the Western Digital Caviar Blacks even though the WD's have a SATA 6 interface. No mechanical hard drive is even saturating SATA 3 Gb/s bandwidth, so it's not a big factor.

Here is a $2000 build that gets you better gaming performance, an SSD, faster mechanical drive, more RAM.

CASE: Cooler Master HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$90

Saves you $50 from previous case and is, by my own experience and by professional reviews, a very very good case. Plenty of room, excellent cooling. It's great.

MOBO: ASUS P6X58D-E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$240

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$75

Is faster than the Western Digital because it uses 500 GB platters instead of 333.

CPU: Intel Core i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's going to perform better than any AMD CPU with a single 5970 and with dual 5970s.

Also, since you're considering quad-fire, you of all people need to be looking at an X58 platform as it's capable of delivering x16 bandwidth for two GPUs at the same time. And the i7 930 is more able to deal with the Crossfire processing overhead than the processor you have spec'd which can't even deal with one 5970.

GPU: Sapphire HD 5970
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$700

PSU: Corsair 950TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$140 (-$20 rebate)

RAM: G.Skill Pi Series 6 GB, CL7, 1600 MHz DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$160

SSD: Intel X25-M 80 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$220

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-$100



TOTAL: $2,014 before rebates and shipping.

Did you read what I said at the top? I will not go with Intel. the 1090t when overclocked is awesome and 6 REAL cores unlike intel... and the 1366 will go bad soon.. i don't want to buy a new motherboard everytime i upgrade :)  thanks for you help but.. read a little better? BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I might go with it. MIGHT :) 
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July 18, 2010 4:42:30 PM

Yeah, I read your OP. I understand that the 1090T has six physical cores, but if this is a gaming build, you're not making it "overkill" like you want. You're just spending a bunch of money for no reason. If you don't like 1366 because you don't think it will be upgradeable in the future, what's your reason for picking a platform for which 1366 IS ALREADY AN UPGRADE? Does not make sense.
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July 18, 2010 4:49:58 PM

mortonww said:
Yeah, I read your OP. I understand that the 1090T has six physical cores, but if this is a gaming build, you're not making it "overkill" like you want. You're just spending a bunch of money for no reason. If you don't like 1366 because you don't think it will be upgradeable in the future, what's your reason for picking a platform for which 1366 IS ALREADY AN UPGRADE? Does not make sense.

Ok forgot to put in that I want it to have an upgrade path ;P and those graphs and stuff, it makes it look like wow there is a huge difference, 1-2 frames on most games and no i don't play crysis.. But I might go with the intel.. I just don't want to :) 
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July 18, 2010 6:38:27 PM

If you want to go AMD, go AMD. But don't get the 1090T for gaming. Get a Phenom II X4 955/965 instead. Then upgrade to Bulldozer next year if you need more processing power.

If you end up going AM3 and getting the Crosshair IV, make sure that you're aware of the northbridge overheating problem. PM me if you want more details.

Agree that the WD1002FAEX is unnecessary and that SATA 6 Gb/s doesn't do anything for 7200 rpm mechanical drives. It has slightly faster random/small read access times (1 ms or so), so it might be a slightly better boot drive than a Spinpoint F3 or 7200.12, but if you go with an SSD for your boot drive, you'll get better value out of the non-WD drives. Not to mention the non-WD drives are faster at streaming data.
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July 18, 2010 6:49:16 PM

coldsleep said:
If you want to go AMD, go AMD. But don't get the 1090T for gaming. Get a Phenom II X4 955/965 instead. Then upgrade to Bulldozer next year if you need more processing power.

If you end up going AM3 and getting the Crosshair IV, make sure that you're aware of the northbridge overheating problem. PM me if you want more details.

Agree that the WD1002FAEX is unnecessary and that SATA 6 Gb/s doesn't do anything for 7200 rpm mechanical drives. It has slightly faster random/small read access times (1 ms or so), so it might be a slightly better boot drive than a Spinpoint F3 or 7200.12, but if you go with an SSD for your boot drive, you'll get better value out of the non-WD drives. Not to mention the non-WD drives are faster at streaming data.

Yep I know how to fix that crazy north bridge. Ok i guess ill get the F3 with an SSD.. I do video edit too (primarily for game though) , sorry for that. And ill overclock my 1090t near 3.8-4.0 ill go for custom water on XMAS ( i know the antec 1200 isnt good at that, but don't say oh heres a good case! LINK)
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July 18, 2010 6:55:37 PM

Full build, no combos included, no shipping/tax calculated:

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 - $160 + $10 gift card
Mobo - Asus Crosshair IV - $230
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 MHz CL 7 - $105
or Mushkin Blackline 1600 MHz CL7 (7-8-7) 1.35V - $112
or original kit you linked with 7-7-7 rather than 7-8-7 timings - $120
GPU - whatever 5970 you want - $700
SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb - $175
HDD - Seagate 7200.12 or Samsung Spinpoint F3 - $75
Case - Antec 1200 - $170 (-$30 promo code ending today)
PSU - Corsair TX 950 - $140 (and 9.5 at jonnyguru)

total: $1770 (with the $120 RAM) + cooling solution of your choice.

Leaves you room to upgrade to a different SSD if you want, or you can get the Antec TP instead, or 1600 Mhz CL 6/2000 MHz CL9 RAM. Did you factor in the cost of Win 7?

If you decide to upgrade the SSD, look at:
Intel X25-M 80 GB - $220
Crucial C300 128 GB -$335 (currently sold out)
Corsair Nova 128 GB - $320
OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB - $350

EDIT: Or, of course, you could get the 1090T with that left over cash too, if you insist.
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July 18, 2010 7:04:43 PM

Quote:
Ironically, i7 930 and gtx 470s SLI would g(rape) your AMD build...


It does, of course, leave no feasible upgrade path on either the CPU or the graphics solution, which he said is important to him.
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July 18, 2010 7:16:27 PM

coldsleep said:
Full build, no combos included, no shipping/tax calculated:

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 - $160 + $10 gift card
Mobo - Asus Crosshair IV - $230
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 MHz CL 7 - $105
or Mushkin Blackline 1600 MHz CL7 (7-8-7) 1.35V - $112
or original kit you linked with 7-7-7 rather than 7-8-7 timings - $120
GPU - whatever 5970 you want - $700
SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb - $175
HDD - Seagate 7200.12 or Samsung Spinpoint F3 - $75
Case - Antec 1200 - $170 (-$30 promo code ending today)
PSU - Corsair TX 950 - $140 (and 9.5 at jonnyguru)

total: $1770 (with the $120 RAM) + cooling solution of your choice.

Leaves you room to upgrade to a different SSD if you want, or you can get the Antec TP instead, or 1600 Mhz CL 6/2000 MHz CL9 RAM. Did you factor in the cost of Win 7?

If you decide to upgrade the SSD, look at:
Intel X25-M 80 GB - $220
Crucial C300 128 GB -$335 (currently sold out)
Corsair Nova 128 GB - $320
OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB - $350

EDIT: Or, of course, you could get the 1090T with that left over cash too, if you insist.

Wow, thanks a lot :D  thats perfect! Now lets say i only have 1 5970 and don't upgrade, how much power would my build take? would an 850HX work out good?
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July 18, 2010 7:18:22 PM

Double post yeah, sorry but.. not saying I want to but, would an i7 930 with my 5970 be way better? Would i really get more gaming performance?
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July 18, 2010 7:21:18 PM

Mr Pizza said:
Wow, thanks a lot :D  thats perfect! Now lets say i only have 1 5970 and don't upgrade, how much power would my build take? would an 850HX work out good?


An 850 should be more than enough. ATI recommends 650W for one 5970, and 850W for 2. I assumed you were going to do some overclocking as well, though, so 950-1000W seemed like a good idea.

I'd stick with at least 850 in case you do upgrade later or you want to have overhead for overclocking. You could drop down to 750 if you change your mind and decide that you'll never add another 5970.

P.S. If the Antec 1200 is the case you really really really want, I'd order it today, even if you put off everything else for a month. Make sure you're signed up for newegg's promo emails, enter the promo code, and get the entire thing for $140 with free shipping. That kind of deal doesn't come along all that often. $120 if you make the $20 MIR work.

EDIT: ares' post reminds me that I forgot a DVD drive above. I'll assume that you can find a $20 SATA DVD drive on your own. :) 
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July 18, 2010 7:27:17 PM

*sigh* i like amd and all, im using a 955 now, but for gaming, im sorry, the amd 1090T gets pretty pummeled. it does the same performance as a 955, and costs 2x more. i know you intel, and love amd, but i recommend loving whatever gets you the best performance for the money. If you are DEAD SET on going amd, get the 955. if it were me, in a mind of logic and reason, with a budget like this and needs like you, id be going for and i7 930, and waiting for the gtx 475 to come out. Im no intel fanboy, im not a fan of the company practices, but theres no denying, for gaming and this kind of budget, there isnt much in the way of amd. i would say 1156, but its a bit dead, and doesnt do dual cards well. so your basically down to am3 or 1366. the 1090T is basically a 955 in gaming, i have the 955, i love it, but the 955<i5 750<i7 930. Now, if you MUST go with AMD for whatever reason, heres a build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (x2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

final price is 1988.90$, so sorry for being under budget. with the cash left over, you can easily fit a 1090T in.

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July 18, 2010 7:35:13 PM

Mr Pizza said:
Double post yeah, sorry but.. not saying I want to but, would an i7 930 with my 5970 be way better? Would i really get more gaming performance?


You get more theoretical performance on some games, in that with a 5970, most of your games will be reporting above 60 fps, which is pretty much the maximum fps that the human eye can make out. Gaming is much more dependent on the graphics card than the CPU.

Different games in some of the benchmarks:
Phenom II X4 955 vs. i7-920 - pretty comparable except for Far Cry 2
Phenom II X6 1090T vs. i7-920 - only truly notable difference in the chart is on Dawn of War 2 though the i7-920 is definitely ahead in more benchmarks

Anandtech review of the X6s indicating that it's not that hot for gaming...but on every game except Dawn of War II at the given resolution, they're above 60 fps. (Tests appear to have been performed with a 5870, the relatively flat curves on most of the games further support games being GPU-limited.)

I suspect that you could google a more detailed comparison between different CPUs with the 5970, but I'm afraid I'm not motivated to at the moment. :) 
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July 18, 2010 7:41:13 PM

coldsleep said:
An 850 should be more than enough. ATI recommends 650W for one 5970, and 850W for 2. I assumed you were going to do some overclocking as well, though, so 950-1000W seemed like a good idea.

I'd stick with at least 850 in case you do upgrade later or you want to have overhead for overclocking. You could drop down to 750 if you change your mind and decide that you'll never add another 5970.

P.S. If the Antec 1200 is the case you really really really want, I'd order it today, even if you put off everything else for a month. Make sure you're signed up for newegg's promo emails, enter the promo code, and get the entire thing for $140 with free shipping. That kind of deal doesn't come along all that often. $120 if you make the $20 MIR work.

i might order it today.. ill see :) 
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July 18, 2010 7:42:37 PM

yeah, monitors only move at 60 hertz, 1 hertz=1 fps, so the max noticable is 60 fps. the i7 930 is much stronger for gaming, however with the 5970, you probably wont notice it for a while. only problem is, by the time a 5970 isnt above 60 fps on most games, most games might also be using 6 cores. its an interesting thought.
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July 18, 2010 7:45:39 PM

Mr Pizza said:
i might order it today.. ill see :) 


Not trying to push you or wreck your monthly budget, just saying that $60 (or $80) off + free shipping (another $25-30) doesn't come along all that often. :) 
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July 18, 2010 7:46:32 PM

nobody looked at my build :(  :cry:  :lol: 
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July 18, 2010 7:56:20 PM

ares1214 said:
nobody looked at my build :(  :cry:  :lol: 


Because it wasn't really significantly different from my build? :p  Looked good, though. Bigger SSD, different case, not much else different really. Cheaper mobo, I just stuck with the Crosshair IV because it sounded like the OP was really into the added features. Obviously, it's hell of expensive, and a prime spot to save money if you don't want the additional features.

You did look for combos, which I didn't bother to do. I tend to leave that as an excercise for the reader, since at best, you're only likely to shave $50-100 off.
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July 18, 2010 8:01:36 PM

The crosshair 4 isnt much superior to the MSI at all, except it has the problem with the northbridge cooling. When i heard about that, and saw the MSI, the top AMD board imo is the MSI. if you wanna fix the cooling problem, it MAY be a different story, but both are so jam packed with features, i doubt either one is really better.
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July 18, 2010 8:04:45 PM

ares1214 said:
The crosshair 4 isnt much superior to the MSI at all, except it has the problem with the northbridge cooling. When i heard about that, and saw the MSI, the top AMD board imo is the MSI. if you wanna fix the cooling problem, it MAY be a different story, but both are so jam packed with features, i doubt either one is really better.


Sorry, I mean "cheaper" as in "less expensive". $230 for the Crosshair, $200 for the MSI board.

When I was buying, prior to the northbridge issue being widely known, the Crosshair IV was clearly the most feature-filled and also the most expensive. I haven't really payed attention to the other boards since I built my rig. :) 
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July 18, 2010 8:14:25 PM

haha, if the 890fx gd70 is anything like the 790fx gd70, its amazing. although, aside from ROG, and maybe a few other things, the asus really doesnt have much of anything on the MSI.
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July 18, 2010 8:14:54 PM

"well, i am for sure going with 1391-AFB-131LOL-A whatever that means"
-Mr Pizza


I know how to fix the north bridge, that is not an issue at all :) 

Back to this intel/amd thing, would going with Intel really give me that much more performance in game?
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July 18, 2010 8:18:44 PM

you can get the 1090T asus combo and be right at 2200$ in my build, if you so choose. Ok, intel/amd with a 5970, you wont notice it until later down the line. nvidia/ati, when and the gtx 475 comes out, 2 of them will eat the 5970 alive, and cost less or the same.
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July 18, 2010 8:20:26 PM

ares1214 said:
you can get the 1090T asus combo and be right at 2200$ in my build, if you so choose. Ok, intel/amd with a 5970, you wont notice it until later down the line. nvidia/ati, when and the gtx 475 comes out, 2 of them will eat the 5970 alive, and cost less or the same.

Sigh..
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July 18, 2010 8:29:40 PM

Here is a benchmark comparison between X4 965 3.4Gjz and X6 1090T 3.2Ghz. About 8 different games and a lots of other applications.
Another comparison between i7 920 2.66Ghz and X4 965 3.4Ghz (a 2.8Ghz would be slightly better).

But if you're pushing games to the max quality settings and image quality fiilters a lot of the time you're going to be GPU limited and you'll end up having similar performance regardless of the CPU.
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July 18, 2010 8:41:58 PM

the interesting thing is the cpu though. when 2 5970s or 4 475s arent good enough, or say maybe 3 years, a lot more games will use 6 cores. that might push the 1090T over the i7 930 in gaming.
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July 18, 2010 9:30:10 PM

ares1214 said:
the interesting thing is the cpu though. when 2 5970s or 4 475s arent good enough, or say maybe 3 years, a lot more games will use 6 cores. that might push the 1090T over the i7 930 in gaming.

Yeah you got a good point there
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July 18, 2010 9:31:10 PM

and tbh, looking at most benchmarks, the 1090T doesnt lose by much. it depends on what you play and at what resolution though.
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July 18, 2010 9:36:49 PM

ares1214 said:
and tbh, looking at most benchmarks, the 1090T doesnt lose by much. it depends on what you play and at what resolution though.

Thats the thing, the 1090t beats the 930 and the 930 beats the 1090t, just in different ways... I think the 1090t would be better for me because I play BC2 a lot and that takes many many many cores... and I see future games will too, I don't hate intel, just.. want 6 cores :)  Ima hardcore multitasker
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July 18, 2010 9:45:00 PM

yeah, both are good for BC2. and both are good in multitasking. to be honest, there is a very SMALL amount of games where a 5970 wont get over 60 fps, and an even smaller amount where a faster cpu in the case will push it higher. most times when the i7 wins its already 100 fps+
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July 18, 2010 9:58:13 PM

ares1214 said:
yeah, both are good for BC2. and both are good in multitasking. to be honest, there is a very SMALL amount of games where a 5970 wont get over 60 fps, and an even smaller amount where a faster cpu in the case will push it higher. most times when the i7 wins its already 100 fps+

Ok, ill go with the i7 920.. I know how to overclock.. all your guys' input thanks so much! Ive seen the 3dmark and everyone on the forums is using an i7.. meh why not..
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July 18, 2010 10:03:40 PM

haha, thats probably a good choice. although do you plan on upgrading the build later, or just buying an entirely new one?
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July 18, 2010 10:12:28 PM

I assume you mean the 930. It's cheaper and faster :lol: 

Barely any games even utilise 4 cores at the moment though guys, so I would say you would be alright on that front.
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July 18, 2010 10:20:14 PM

Mr Pizza said:
Back to this intel/amd thing, would going with Intel really give me that much more performance in game?


To be honest, it's not going to give you a big boost in games right now. Not a noticeable boost, anyway. As I said in an earlier post, it gives you more theoretical fps, but you're not going to notice it, as you won't be able to tell the difference with anything over 60 fps. Virtually all games today are limited by the GPU, and since you're getting a 5970, you're pretty much erasing that limitation at most sane resolutions.

That being said, if you want to go with the i7-930, it's a fine processor. The system will cost more, but you should have the budget for it. If you're just gaming, the hyperthreading won't come in handy, but it may be useful during video editing. (Of course, the 1090T's 6 cores don't all come into play during gaming either.)

Changes to my build above:

CPU - i7-930 - $290
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R - $210
RAM - G.Skill PI Series 1600 MHz CL 7 6 GB kit - $170

Total additional cost to original build: +$160

Rest of the build for completeness:
GPU - whatever 5970 you want - $700
SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb - $175
HDD - Seagate 7200.12 or Samsung Spinpoint F3 - $75
Case - Antec 1200 - $170 (-$30 promo code ending today)
ODD - cheapest SATA DVD burner with free shipping - 18
PSU - Corsair TX 950 - $140 (and 9.5 at jonnyguru)

total: $1948 + cooling solution of your choice (included a DVD burner this time around)

EDIT: You could, of course, spend another $170 and get the Asus Rampage III Extreme, but I wouldn't really recommend it as a worthwhile use of your funds.
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July 18, 2010 10:26:54 PM

for what its worth, id say with a 5970, it doesnt matter much what you drop in there. id have half a mind to put in a x3 440 and wait for bulldozer.
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July 20, 2010 1:10:30 AM

ares1214 said:
for what its worth, id say with a 5970, it doesnt matter much what you drop in there. id have half a mind to put in a x3 440 and wait for bulldozer.


I know that you mean that as just an interim solution, but that's a bit far off-balance, isn't it? I feel like just knowing that would make me unhappy with a build.
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July 20, 2010 1:56:51 AM

you might think its off balance, but it really isnt. the 440 is an amazing gaming cpu. most games only take below 3 cores anyway, its already at a high clock, and it CAN unlock into quad core, and maybe even get some l3 cache. it MIGHT hold a 5970 back, but it will give 60 fps+ performance in almost every game, depending on the game and resolution. then when BD comes out, pop that sucker in, and BOOM lift off. its a thought.
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July 20, 2010 2:02:10 AM

ares1214 said:
you might think its off balance, but it really isnt. the 440 is an amazing gaming cpu. most games only take below 3 cores anyway, its already at a high clock, and it CAN unlock into quad core, and maybe even get some l3 cache. it MIGHT hold a 5970 back, but it will give 60 fps+ performance in almost every game, depending on the game and resolution. then when BD comes out, pop that sucker in, and BOOM lift off. its a thought.

or get an x2 and unlock to quad :D . Bulldozer is coming soon yes, so I might consider getting an x3 720 (don't want Athlon).. maybe. But really I don't think the new bulldozer CPUs will be that expensive so.. I think ill stay with meh 1090t for some performance when i get my pc :D 
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July 20, 2010 2:51:37 AM

think of it this way, even if it is expensive, you can always get thuban or deneb for dirt cheap. thats why i think its a pretty secure way to go. and unlocking on the 555 has become more and more common, its to the point where people actually buy it expecting it to unlock, and therefore rate it down. just be aware you are buying a dual core, if it unlocks, its amd being nice :lol: 
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July 20, 2010 3:11:15 AM

ares1214 said:
think of it this way, even if it is expensive, you can always get thuban or deneb for dirt cheap. thats why i think its a pretty secure way to go. and unlocking on the 555 has become more and more common, its to the point where people actually buy it expecting it to unlock, and therefore rate it down. just be aware you are buying a dual core, if it unlocks, its amd being nice :lol: 

Well realistically the lowest I would go is a Phenomenal II x4 955 :) 
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July 20, 2010 3:17:22 AM

hmmm, yeah, its up to you, but then id adjust the budget to 200-500$ less to save up money for BD.
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