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June 9, 2010 1:00:23 PM

Hi, I need help choosing a better video card. I have just one PCI Express x 16 slot. I want to get an ATI card that can handle most games out right now and that has a good heatsink and fan..these are my computers specs.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor
9 GB RAM PC3-10600 MB/sec
750 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec) 7200 rpm
XFX HD-467X-ZDF2 Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (This is the card that I am trying to replace!)
1 COOLER MASTER R4-S4S-10AK-GP 140mm Case
1 COOLER MASTER R4-L2R-20AC-GP 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
1 COOLER MASTER R4-BM9S-28PK-R0 Blade Master 92mm Case Fan
Topower Zumax 400w ATX Power Supply (I will be upgrading to a Topower Zumax 500w ATX Power Supply)

Please help! Thanks!

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a b U Graphics card
June 9, 2010 1:18:20 PM

What resolution do you play at? Assuming it is HD, so 1920 x 1080
Your three options are:
5850 - $309.99
5870 - $399.99
5970 - $699.99

The top end card is a lot of power but for a lot of money. Personally I would not spend all that money on the 5970, the 5870 is power plenty enough and can handle everything at HD resolution.

The 5850 is a great card if you cannot afford the 5870 and I believe is better price/performance, but the 5870 is still worth grabbing if you can afford the extra cash.

You cannot go wrong with any of these cards. You can of course go with the Nvidia 4XX series, though personally, due to price I would sooner stick with the ATI.

But for the love of god please get yourself a proper quality power supply, and if going with 5870 probably more than 500w. That PSU you are thinking of sounds like a fast track to turning your very nice computer into a very expensive door stop. You do not want to scrimp on PSU, if it is bad it can damage everything. ALso, that 500W does not have the connectors required to power a 5850 or 5870

For $89.99 you can get a Corsair 750W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or for $69.99 a 550W Corsiar PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Though personally I would prefer the 750w for $20 more, a decent power supply like that will last you this build and the next
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a b U Graphics card
June 9, 2010 1:50:52 PM

Since you only have a 16x slot I would recommend you to choose between HD5770, HD4890 and GTX275 since all of the cards would be bottlenecked by your x16 pcie lane only by a small margin.If you choose anything like HD5850/5870/470/480 you must consider upgrading your mobo to the one having a PCIe2.0 slo

Any psu supplying around 32A on 12v rails would be sufficient.Even a crossair VX450w will also do the job.

HD5770 for $169
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crosair VX450 for $65
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=n82e168...

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June 9, 2010 2:14:31 PM

thank you for the info. i will consider both and look into them. thanks again
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a b U Graphics card
June 9, 2010 2:29:59 PM

Wait, what motherboard are you using? When you said one PCI-E x16 slot I assumed it was a PCI-E 2.0 slot and what you meant was simply that there was not a second one available for XFire.
If that is the case then the cards I mentioned are fine. If the slot is indeed not PCIe 2.0 then Sayantan is correct
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June 9, 2010 4:49:59 PM

im guessing it is a PCIe 2.0 because that's the type of card that I have in there already, is it not? XFX HD 4670?
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June 9, 2010 4:50:39 PM

this is the type of motherboard: H-RS880-uATX (Aloe) motherboard
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June 9, 2010 5:16:23 PM

As mentioned, it depends mostly on your budget.
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a b U Graphics card
June 9, 2010 5:16:52 PM

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=e...

Hope this is your mobo and clearly it has got an PCIE 1.0x16 lane.But don't worry ,even if you use a 5870 the bottleneck won't be so severe.

Recently I discovered this article:p CIe scaling of 5870.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5870_PCI-Expr...

The article shows there is not much difference in PCIE1.0x16 and PCIE2.0x16 unless you crossfire.

A crossair VX450w psu would be suffcient for ATI gpus.
But choose a higher wattage psu for Nvidia 480/470s as they are power hogs.Nvidia requires 38A @12v so a good quality 550W psu would be sufficient.eg Crosair VX550

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June 9, 2010 6:06:50 PM

so what would happen if I were to use a PCI-Express 2.0 card on my motherboard?
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a b U Graphics card
June 9, 2010 6:34:31 PM

suigeneris20 said:
so what would happen if I were to use a PCI-Express 2.0 card on my motherboard?

You would get a few frames less in graphically demanding games.Probably cause a performance drop of 2% at max.
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2010 6:22:20 PM

can i u AMD Phenom ii x4,965 black 3.4ghz with Motherboard H-RS880-uATX Aloe?thanks
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2010 6:27:12 PM

can i u AMD Phenom ii x4,965 black 3.4ghz with Motherboard H-RS880-uATX Aloe.thanks
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 3, 2010 8:16:54 PM

The motherboard you linked is a 785G chipset and I'm pretty sure it is PCIE 2.0.

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't notice how old the thread actually is.
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