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June 11, 2010 3:17:47 PM

Does it matter for the 92/b Nvidia cards, 9800GT, 250 GTS cards whether it's a 512MB or 1GB card?

If the res of the monitor is 1680x1050, which do you recommend?

Prices for 512MB are much cheaper... but, do you lose some performance benefits with that res?

e.g. 9800GT 512MB - $70

9800GT 1GB - $100 - $130

Recommendations?

Also, I will only go with EVGA or XFX if I go with Nvidia...

Some have reference pcb design and others have what look to be customized coolers.... does that matter?

Thanks for any replies.

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a b Î Nvidia
June 11, 2010 3:27:03 PM

having owned both the 9800GT 512mb, GTS 250 1GB, and a 1680x1050 monitor

there is no difference between a 9800GT 512mb and 1GB version. The card is just to slow to effectively use 1GB of RAM. There is a slight difference between the 512mb and 1GB GTS250.

there is little difference between the reference coolers and customized ones.
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June 11, 2010 3:51:36 PM

Oh, thanks! So, is the GTS 250 1GB worth it over a 9800GT?

I guess I mean if you compare price/performance.

I'm leaning towards a cheap card, XFX 9800GT 512MB for now and upgrade later. The card is $80. GTS 250 cards are over $120 and 1GB are about that or a bit more after rebate.

I thought the 'weaker' card is cheaper but if I have a plan to upgrade later, it can do the job for now. Maybe I'll even consider an ATI card by then... I dunno...

Thanks for the answers, though...Been waiting for some since yesterday! LOL!
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a b Î Nvidia
June 11, 2010 6:18:38 PM

What about your PSU? brand? model?
CPU? current speed?

For your resolution, i would say save a little bit and get HD5770. It will good for a long term. :) 
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June 11, 2010 11:54:20 PM

I know the ATI 5770 is better but the extra $ plus a Linux/Windows machine means some issues until the support matures... that's why I thought I'd get a cheaper card now and upgrade later. Yeah, it's an extra purchase but if I can find a 2nd build for the first purchased card or sell later... might not be that bad...

Is the GTS 250 512mb good enough for my monitor's resolution, 1680x1050. Do I have much to gain going to 1GB? I guess that means an additional $20 or $30 on top though...

Thanks for these suggestions! This helps a lot! I did google and try to find the info/answers myself but good to get feedback at the current time. Googling means I have to go through older data and forum threads that suddenly end...stuff like that. :) 
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a b Î Nvidia
June 12, 2010 1:37:10 AM

Canuck1 said:
I know the ATI 5770 is better but the extra $ plus a Linux/Windows machine means some issues until the support matures... that's why I thought I'd get a cheaper card now and upgrade later. Yeah, it's an extra purchase but if I can find a 2nd build for the first purchased card or sell later... might not be that bad...

Is the GTS 250 512mb good enough for my monitor's resolution, 1680x1050. Do I have much to gain going to 1GB? I guess that means an additional $20 or $30 on top though...

Thanks for these suggestions! This helps a lot! I did google and try to find the info/answers myself but good to get feedback at the current time. Googling means I have to go through older data and forum threads that suddenly end...stuff like that. :) 


my GTS 250 1GB maxes out just about every game at 1680x1050, those games I cant play maxed out on ultra settings , I can play at very high settings. The difference between the 512mb and 1GB is slight and you can OC the card fairly well anyways.
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June 12, 2010 2:01:47 AM

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Once again, fglrx better than X.Org and Nouveau IMO, especially with the HD4000 and above. Besides, nothing most people use on linux is graphic intensive and either would run Compiz fine, strictly speaking ATI does better in OpenGL than its Nvidia GT200b counterparts. So I dont get this linux = No ATI thing.
Hey, nice to read something from a Linux user! Well, my 'linux buddies' say to get an OpenGL 4.0 card and some of them are ATI fans, so I'm persuaded to get a HD 5xxx card. But, the OSS drivers for it aren't supported yet and HD 5xxx cards are not yet fully supported in later X-Server versions. The current Catalyst fglrx driver ver. also is said to have some bugs/issues with HD 4xxx and especially HD 5xxx cards. If this was improved sufficiently, I would choose HD 5xxx no question.

However, I can be assured of less issues with a Nvidia card now. 9800Gts are at a low price now so are like a 'sufficient for now' card for both Linux and Windows. An intermediate card until then, maybe?
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June 12, 2010 2:02:13 AM

ct1615 said:
my GTS 250 1GB maxes out just about every game at 1680x1050, those games I cant play maxed out on ultra settings , I can play at very high settings. The difference between the 512mb and 1GB is slight and you can OC the card fairly well anyways.
Good to know, thanks!

I just have to choose between EVGA or XFX (assuming I go Nvidia).... both have 512mb and 1gb versions in both 9800GT and GTS 250.
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June 12, 2010 3:52:11 AM

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the GTS 250 can handle 1680x1050 with ease
the ATI 5770 is a better card but will cost $50 more
the GTS 250 is currently Nvidia best priced card for the performance and several can be purchased under $90 after rebate like the one timop linked or these two below


i have a gts 250.. ran the crysis benchie tool at 1680x1050 everything high, no AA got 29 fps...its a brilliant card for the money...though if you want a card only for gaming 5750 and 5770 are not bad choices. dont go for any of the 9800s, if you have to, go for the gts 250.
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June 12, 2010 8:14:49 AM

I play with my 5770 most games at 1920x1080 and max settings and max AA and AF(game max that is). Crysis i can play at 1680x1050, very high with no AA with good frames.(check my PC specks)

If you want to buy now a gts250 you should consider buying next year a 5850. You will be satisfied with the huge difference in performance. Also i recommend the 1 Gb version because it might give you a slight edge in a few games. If the difference from the 512 Mb version is high then get the 512Mb.


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June 12, 2010 11:42:56 AM

If it matters what my cpu and psu is, here's the info:
PSU: Corsair HX520W (modular)
CPU: Q6600 (775LGA mobo, Gigabyte P35-DS3R)
Case: Antec 300 (not set up yet...waiting for new hardware)

I didn't know if the ultimate goal should be a 5850 because I didn't want to bottleneck a powerful card with my hardware...

The GTS 250 sounds like a good choice for now... does it matter about the design or shroud choice... there's the large rectangular one and these cards with custom coolers which seem to have the fan in the middle... anything I should know about these options? I thought the custom ones would blow the hot air in the case and maybe I don't want that?

I prefer EVGA and XFX for the warranty plus the GTS 250 cards they have are usually rated pretty highly...
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June 12, 2010 12:10:46 PM

The antec 300 is a good case, the fans will move the air in and out from the case so there is no need to worry about the coolers from the video card blowing(could not find a better word for now..ha ha ha) the air inside the case.

The ones that have a custom fan setup should run cooler and quieter.

I have the same motherboard and you can easily overclock your CPU on it.
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June 14, 2010 12:09:33 PM

A 1 GB graphics card can endure more high graphics.

For example: While playing grand theft auto 4. You can set all the high settings without slowing the game down. Where as if you have 512 MB, your graphic options are limited. If you set it to high, it will slow the game down. You can see your video memory usage in the grand theft auto video options.

The higher the video memory the higher and faster you can play games with high settings.
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a c 171 Î Nvidia
June 14, 2010 5:52:02 PM

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Will the EVGA GTS 250 1gb work in SLI ?
Since this card is quite available everywhere, I believe 2 of them would be a pretty good setup for the money.

The OP has a P35 mobo and as such SLi is not really an option.
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a c 171 Î Nvidia
June 14, 2010 6:29:28 PM

Canuck1 said:
Is the GTS 250 card a good folding card?

It has more shaders than my 8800GT's but is essentially the same thing (albeit the GTS rather than the GT) and they do OK.
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June 14, 2010 6:30:11 PM

Hey, some great ideas to mull over, guys, thanks!

The GTS 250 1GB sounds like a good option. I could upgrade later if I want something more powerful and/or want to move to an ATI card. Is the GTS 250 card a good folding card? I can keep the card for a 2nd build or sell it since a lot of Nvidia cards are popular for folding. The GTS 250 sounds like it's a good card, in general, anyway.

I'll take a look at the EVGA and XFX GTS 250 1GB cards. The MSI Frozr card looks good too but not as good a warranty. It's the only one out of the three that isn't lifetime.
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June 15, 2010 5:19:44 PM

No sli option available.
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a c 171 Î Nvidia
June 15, 2010 5:46:35 PM

ionut19 said:
No sli option available.

I pointed that out earlier but Arunabha42 seems incapable of comprehending such things. :pfff: 
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June 16, 2010 1:03:45 AM

If I upgrade the mobo (probably requires other components as well), I could always SLI later on but yes, you guys are right... the mobo is not capable of SLI. :) 
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June 17, 2010 3:30:48 PM

i'm just saying if he ever has any improbability of doing an sli......
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June 17, 2010 3:55:37 PM

Don't worry about it, Arunabha42! :)  I knew what you meant.

There's always an option to use SLI but I'll need a new mobo. My current mobo is really old, anyways... but, for now, I'm keeping it. I would probably upgrade the entire system but that's a larger investment. For now, I'm just upgrading the GPU! :-)
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