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July 22, 2010 12:43:41 AM

Hello, it is my first post here, although i've been lurking around this forum for a while, and it was already big help.
I am planing on builid new rig, and have some questions.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Some time in August, most probably over first or second week

BUDGET RANGE: £1300 - £1400 but the less the better
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Seriously everything: gaming, movies, web browsing, graphics. I also want it to be upgradeable so I assume Motherboard, PSU, and Case will make base for future amendments

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, hard drive, optical drive(BluRay Writer). (last three although not required, I will most probably upgrade at later time, so any recomandations will be appreciated)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Scan.co.uk, Overclockers.co.uk, aria.co.uk, lambda-tek.com (thay have good reviews and not bad prices, but their: tech specs may be different, look may be different sort of scarrying me off), and any UK based site you recommend. (I had to rely on google to get this four)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United Kingdom.

PARTS PREFERENCES:

Motherboard:

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 2, Intel X58, S1366, SLi/Xfire PCI-E 2, DDR3 2200<, USB3 & SATA 6Gb/s

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigabyte-GA-X58A-UD3R-Re...

If anyone can explain what rev 2 or rev 1 are in description of this it will be great, also according to some shops this one coming with 1 ide connection, to some others without, do anyone know what is the case with it? (it would be perfect if there will be one,as I have some old drives i sometimes use). Additionaly, will it be fine to put two GTX-480 on it? (there was topic about it but left me confused)

CPU:

Intel Core i7 930 D0 SLBKP Bloomfield 45nm, 2.8 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel-Core-i7-930-D0-SLB...

GPU:

VGA-480-1A - 1536MB Point of View GTX 480, 40nm, 3696MHz GDDR5, GPU 700MHz, Shader 1401MHz, 480 Cores, mini HDMI

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1536MB-Point-of-View-GTX...

I do want particulary GTX-480, although I would be glad if someone know where to get similiar one for less ,or better one (manufacturer, warranty) for the same money

Memory:

6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 7-8-7-20, XMP, 1.65V

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/6GB-%283x2GB%29-Corsair-...

I do believe it is the best value for money, but all sugestions welcome.

PSU:

1000W Corsair CMPSU-1000HXUK, ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply, UK Version, 5 Year Warranty

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1000W-Corsair-CMPSU-1000...

or this:

TPQ-1000GB - 1000W Antec TruePower Quattro, Modular, 85% Efficiency, Modular, SLI & Crossfire capable

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1000W-Antec-TruePower-Qu...

Here I am confused. Corsair have 5yr warranty, single 12v rail which is recomended by nvidia, but can apparently burn mobo, and is more expensive. Antec only 2yr warranty 4 12v rail, which they claim to be okay for nvidia, and to be safer for motherboard, but which i would apparently need to balance somehow (have just some very,very basic idea how), but also cheaper. Additionaly I really dont know which one will fit into the

CASE:

Antec 300 Three Hundred, Black Midi Tower Ultimate Gaming Case w/o PSU

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Antec-300-Three-Hundred-...

Not sure if any of PSU will fit, or if GPU, SLI GPU will fit. All I want from it is good airflow, and lots of space.
Unfortunately I need to get for it 3

Case Fans:

120mm Scythe S-FLEX SFF21D Silent Case Fan 800 RPM

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120mm-Scythe-S-FLEX-SFF2...

so if anyone know case wich will fulfil above requirements, without any modifications and for similiar price as above combo I will really appreciate it.

Cooling:

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Uni Quiet CPU Cooler Copper 4 Heat Pipes S775/AM2/AM3/754/939/940

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coolermaster-Hyper-212-U...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound for CPU and Chipset Coolers - 3.5 gram

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-...

I really have no idea about cooling, so I just mercillesly took it, as well as case fans from, "Home builit pc buying guide" post, for which I am realy gratefull by the way.


OVERCLOCKING: Maybe in the future

SLI: Maybe in the future

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: main questions are:

- is everything compatible (including size, and fitting parts)?
- will 1kw PSU ( and which one) be able to handle 2 gtx-480 if i decide for it in future?
- is cooling good enough for current configuration ( gtx-480 )?
- should i stick with this case or look for another?

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I took all links from scan, only because it was easier, and it took me ages to wrote this post, so if you know better priced parts please share :) 

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Sorry for any mistakes I made, my English is far from perfect.


Thanks in advance
July 22, 2010 2:32:48 AM

Hello and welcome.

Let's start with some links to better UK websites... I'll just take the whole list from my parts list

UK
Microdirect
Aria PC?
Overclockers UK
Misco I need feedback on them... they look good.
Pixmania Just a gadget store but they have some good memory at good prices, and other stuff.
ebuyer
Dabs
http://www.scan.co.uk/

Pay attention to Dabs and ebuyer especially.

You absolutely cannot fit a GTX 480 into an Antec 300 case. If you just want a budget case I recommend the Cooler master 690
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131551

If you are going to eventually get a second GTX 480, then you really need a big high-airflow case like the HAF though
http://www.dabs.com/products/coolermaster-haf932-black-...

The Antec TPQ-1000 delivers quite a bit less 12V power than the Corsair.
TPQ-1000 70 amps
HX1000 80 amps

Yes, Antec likes to spin things that way, but you are looking at the two top PSU companies and they are both great. The scenarios where you will actually need that over-current protection are pretty rare, and would likely mean the destruction of your hardware anyway.

Go with the Corsair or look at some of the other quality PSUs linked in this database:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/278567-28-ranked-list...

The thermal paste that comes with the cooler is high quality ceramic type. It should be just fine and easier to use for a novice.

Overclockers has a deal on the board
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB...
July 22, 2010 1:13:53 PM

Thanks a lot for answer and tips.
Few more question though:
- About case
Thanks for link for
Coolermaster haf 932,
I would assume that
Coolermaster HAF X Case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/222943?utm_source=google&...
will be good too.
Will it be worth price difference? Comparing to HAF932?

-About cooling
I understand that specified by me will be sufficient for 1 GPU no need to add anything for now?

Again thanks in advance
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July 22, 2010 9:03:34 PM

Have a google for HAF X reviews. It's a very new case and I haven't actually seen it with my own eyes.

My personal preference once you get into that range is for a case with a slide-out motherboard tray. Like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Not sure I understand your cooling question, but I see you are valuing quiet a lot. You may want a case that will leave lots of room for water cooling radiators. If you think that might be in your future (expensive and requires a lot of work) then that should be a case consideration.
The HAF X does support a 360mm radiator, pretty good.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/cooler-master-haf-x-revie...

But the HAF line will have better air flow.
July 22, 2010 9:15:47 PM

Everything important has been mentioned by proximon.

Just some minor advice.

I don't like the haf series. They look extremely ugly IMO. Sure the perform well but your paying for looks which strangly appeals to some. Many people say I don't care about the looks. But trust me you should. Something you're going to using everyday which is in plain sight and most importantly something you're going to boast about better not look ugly.

So if you like the looks go ahead if you don't here are some case which perform great aswell with less childish looks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... very very good case for 200 after rebate. It doesn't have a window or hot swap bays like the 800d but I like neither so IMO this is a better case for far less.
July 23, 2010 2:05:12 AM

Thank You guys very much.
After few hours of googling I managed to round it up to Lian Li or HAF X.
Must say that i like elegant look and aluminium builid of Lian Li, just have to look more closely on rumoured issue with Corsair HX PSU, but have still about a week to do that.
Once again thanks, You were great help.

Edit:
Sorry, wanted to give best answer, but didn't knew I should start topic as a question.

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