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October 1, 2012 9:43:05 AM

hello i have d945gcr motherboard with a sata hard drive my question is how do i successfully use a ide hard drive that my films on as slave drive . when i connect it to my pc it wont let my pc boot it just hang at windows 7 boot screen . any help would be apreciated as the ide hard drive has valuable files

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a b G Storage
October 1, 2012 1:56:08 PM

Put the IDE disk in an enclosure and connect it to a usb port.
Problem solved!
a c 342 G Storage
October 1, 2012 2:19:47 PM

I am assuming your mobo has an IDE port to use.

There are two key things you need to set up: the jumper on the IDE HDD unit for the Master or Slave setting; and, the Boot Priority Sequence.

First of all, STOP thinking that your IDE drive will be a "slave". You have a boot drive already, the SATA unit. Any other HDD installed is just another non-boot drive. Your boot drive is NOT the "Master" of the machine - there is no such thing.

However, any IDE port can support up to two devices sharing the port and a data ribbon cable. To make this work, the devices on the port must be differentiated somehow, and the method is to set a jumper on each IDE device to establish it as either a Master or a Slave. These two terms are relevant ONLY to the two devices sharing one IDE port; they have NO meaning for the machine as a whole. Of the two (possible) devices sharing a port / cable, ONE MUST be the Master of that port, and its jumper set according to the diagram on the HDD unit itself. (Do not use the diagram from another HDD - there is no universal system for all units.) Ideally, the Master device should be plugged into the (Black) connector at the END of the cable. (The Blue connector on the other end goes into the mobo's port.) Even if there is no second device, this is how the first one MUST be set up. (On some HDD's, there are slightly different jumper settings for "Master with no Slave", and Master with Slave Present".) Now, if you also have a second IDE device sharing the same port and cable, it MUST have its jumper set to Slave, and it ought to be plugged into the Grey connector in the middle. If you have a HDD and an optical drive sharing one IDE port on an older machine, sometimes it is best to set the HDD as the port Master and the optical unit as the Slave.

Once that is done, when you boot go immediately into the BIOS Setup screens. FIRST check to see that your IDE HDD is detected properly in the BIOS. If it is not, you can't use it; moreover, if it is generating constant errors, that can prevent the machine from booting at all. Now, assuming it is detected and working, go to the place where you set the Boot Priority Sequence. Make sure that your older SATA HDD unit that you always boot from is the boot device still. Make sure also that the IDE unit is NOT in the boot sequence anywhere. On some machines, by default IF there is an IDE drive installed the mobo tries to use it for booting, and you need to prevent that. Most people would set the Boot Priority Sequence to try the optical drive first, and then the HDD that has the OS on it as second device, and no other choice.
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October 1, 2012 5:03:02 PM

my pc uses sata hard drive witch is my bboot drive... my dvd rewriter uses ide cable , now when i plug the ide hard drive in and set the sata as boot it shows in the bios and gets stuck at boot screen or sometimes loads into windows 7 , is it best to just unplug the dvd drive as its only temporarly untill i copy the files from ide to my main sata
a c 342 G Storage
October 1, 2012 7:24:00 PM

You can try this: ignore the last sentence of my 4th paragraph, and do the opposite. Your DVD rewriter is already on the IDE port by itself and working, so surely its jumper is set as the port Master. So, set the jumper on your old HDD to Slave, and plug it into the MIDDLE (grey) connector on the data ribbon. Connect power, of course. Power up and check in BIOS whether that HDD is being detected properly, or is not. If the drive is OK, it should work just fine and be detected in BIOS, and show up in My Computer ready to use. It should not interfere with the boot process unless the HDD itself is having trouble.
October 1, 2012 7:33:09 PM

ngrego said:
Put the IDE disk in an enclosure and connect it to a usb port.
Problem solved!


+1, save yourself from swallowing a bottle of Excedrin.
October 1, 2012 9:12:08 PM

i have tried every method under the sun to get the ide to work in my pc and nothing ... ive tried it with no jumper and it shows in bios so i set it to boot from my sata ,, it sometimes boots and shows no sexond hard drive in my computer and if i play with the jumpers then it wont get past boot screen .. i dont understand this as my dvd drive is working fine thrue the ide cable and when i unplug my dvd and stick my hard drive nothing ...and i dont have the option to buy a usb case thing as moneys tite at the min , i guess its just not possible to do with my pc :L
a c 342 G Storage
October 5, 2012 3:57:37 AM

Very strange. You should try (if you have not already) your own suggestion: disconnect the DVD drive (both IDE data cable and power supply lines), set the jumper on your IDE drive to Master (with no Slave present) - be SURE to follow the diagram on the IDE drive itself - , plug into it the END connector (black) of the IDE cable, and connect power to it. If that does not work, there may be something wrong with the drive. After all, the IDE port and data cable appear to work OK with the DVD unit. It should ALWAYS be detected properly in BIOS - not intermittently.
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