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Which card for MMO gaming: 5830, 5850, 5870?

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June 14, 2010 5:33:13 PM

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Purchasing: This week, Thursday.
Budget: 300-450 (prefer to be price thrifty and get the most bang for my buck)

I play Aion, Lineage 2, Warhammer and a couple of grindfest MMO's. I will undoubtedly play the next generation of MMO's (perhaps a year from now there will be something ground breaking... who am I kidding)

I want to get a graphics card thats going to handle max detail in populated areas. I don't play single player games and I am not looking to over clock or performance test my system.

Is one 5830 or 5850 enough?

or do I need to step up to a 5870, there sure is a big price difference.

I should be finishing my system on Thursday, I look forward to your response.

note: I don't mind buying a second card in a year for CrossFire if it will future proof me another 2 years.

My build:
ASUS FX890 Mobo XFire
965 AM3 125w + Zalman Heat Sink
8 gigs of Corsair 1600 ddr3
850W TX Corsair PSU
Antec II Steel Case
1 TB Western Digital SATA3 7200 rpm 64mb cache
Samsung Combo Drive
Lots of fans and pretty lights.
June 14, 2010 6:00:39 PM

I would look at a 5770, or a 5850 if you want to go all out.

You DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT need a 5870 to play Aion. It's based on CryEngine 1 (engine that powered Far Cry, originally released in 2004). A 4870 would run it with very high settings at full HD res.

A 5850 represents extreme overkill for games like that. Very few MMOs place serious demands on your system. The 5830 represents an uncomfortable compromise between the 5850 and 5770 - closer to 5850 price for performance that isn't very good for that much money.

The 5770 is slightly less powerful than the 4870 though, and I'm under the impression you want to build a system for the long term (not planning to upgrade regularly) . If so, get the 5850, but bear in mind it is massive overkill for today's MMOs and not exactly cheap.
If you want decent performance now at full HD resolutions, a 5770 will represent a very cheap and quiet option. It will also probably run future MMOs pretty well at high settings, as the genre isn't known for high system requirements.
I can't really see a single compelling reason to buy a 5870, unless you want to play your future MMOs at ridiculously high resolutions.

Also, just looking at your system, why such a hefty power supply? 850W is a lot of juice...

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June 14, 2010 6:15:24 PM

my 5750 gets me through the highest populated city in WoW with no trouble. But I play at 1366x760 or whatever. I don't remember exactly, I'm not on my computer. What resolution you going to play at? When in a super populated city, lag can affect framerates too. I'd say a 5830, although I think they are a bit overpriced. You can turn on AA and AF. If you don't want AA, a 5770 would serve you well
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June 14, 2010 6:56:03 PM

Online games generally do not require powerful video cards because they want to appeal to the vast majority of gamers out there. Most of them do not want to drop over $200 for a video card. The HD 5770 will be more than enough.

If you wanna play graphic intensive single player games like the up coming Crysis 2 and Fallout: New Vegas, then get a HD 5850.

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June 14, 2010 7:42:51 PM

Get the 5850 and call it a day.
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June 14, 2010 8:03:22 PM

Willakan said:
I would look at a 5770, or a 5850 if you want to go all out.

You DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT need a 5870 to play Aion. It's based on CryEngine 1 (engine that powered Far Cry, originally released in 2004). A 4870 would run it with very high settings at full HD res.

A 5850 represents extreme overkill for games like that. Very few MMOs place serious demands on your system. The 5830 represents an uncomfortable compromise between the 5850 and 5770 - closer to 5850 price for performance that isn't very good for that much money.

The 5770 is slightly less powerful than the 4870 though, and I'm under the impression you want to build a system for the long term (not planning to upgrade regularly) . If so, get the 5850, but bear in mind it is massive overkill for today's MMOs and not exactly cheap.
If you want decent performance now at full HD resolutions, a 5770 will represent a very cheap and quiet option. It will also probably run future MMOs pretty well at high settings, as the genre isn't known for high system requirements.
I can't really see a single compelling reason to buy a 5870, unless you want to play your future MMOs at ridiculously high resolutions.

Also, just looking at your system, why such a hefty power supply? 850W is a lot of juice...


I am trying to build a system that will have some staying power and I plan on Crossfiring cards thats the reason for the huge PSU.

I am going with one 5870 after reading about the life cycle of the 5770. It is a card coming toward the end of its life cycle and just checking the stats on 2x 5770's I am looking at almost the same performance as one 5870. The plan is to grab another 5870 for Christmas. Now to explain all this to the wife... hah!
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June 14, 2010 8:48:55 PM

@ 1680x1050 go for an ATI 5770 ($160) all day long.

@ 1920x1080 go for an ATI 5850 ($290-$300).

Those are my general rules for all games. Keep in mind, as was stated by someone else, MMO's tend to require less GPU power than offline single player games. They are designed to appeal to the mass PC public, not "gamers". The reality is, an ATI 5850 would likely make you the envy of most MMO players to begin with. :) 

Long and Short: An ATI 5850 is more than you need for modern day MMOs.
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June 15, 2010 7:41:00 AM

Get HD5850, it would be good for a long term, you can add another HD5850 later, maybe 1-2 year, you have a lot of power on your PSU. :) 
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June 16, 2010 12:02:26 AM

a 5850 would be most cost effective. If you wanna get most bang for your buck go 5850, if you want raw power and you dont care about the price tag go 5870. Both are great options.
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June 16, 2010 1:20:30 AM

Yeah, go for 5850. If the given performance isn't enough, you can also make a hybrid crossfire with 5850 and 5870.
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June 16, 2010 5:55:21 PM

Best answer selected by big_mike.
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